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Question, if you for some reason wanted to set up a VPN over tor is there any advantages at all in doing so?
 
Betonhaus said:
Question, if you for some reason wanted to set up a VPN over tor is there any advantages at all in doing so?
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The only advantageous setup is Tor over VPN (your traffic hops to the VPN first before reaching the Tor network), and the only advantage is to hide that you're using Tor from your ISP by looking to them like you're just using a VPN. (This is genuinely useful to foil traffic analysis like the one that caught this retard. (A))

If you route it VPN over Tor you essentially replace your Tor exit node with your VPN, and that destroys all privacy advantages of Tor solely leaving you with just the privacy advantages of a VPN, so VPN over Tor is no better than just a VPN.
 
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To add to @Markass the Worst post, @Betonhaus if you do see or have concerns about your ability to feasably use the TOR network in your location, use the bridges TOR provides, you can even request a bridge or add one manually if you're not keen on the selection they have available within the browser. They aid in connection across nodes, help your traffic blend in from the viewpoint of your ISP and add an extra layer of protection that doesn't make your traffic stand out in the manner wrapping it in a VPN would.
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Google One VPN was shut down last month (archive). According to this news story (archive), the reason was:
Google is now “discontinuing the VPN feature as [they] found people simply weren’t using it.” The company tells 9to5Google that the deprecation will let the team “refocus” and “support more in-demand features with Google One.”
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This makes sense to me since I think most Google customers would either not use a VPN, or not trust Google with a log of their VPN activity.
 
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King Vidiot said:
Google One VPN was shut down last month (archive). According to this news story (archive), the reason was:

This makes sense to me since I think most Google customers would either not use a VPN, or not trust Google with a log of their VPN activity.
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Who the absolute living FUCK would use a VPN run by Google? It says something that I've never even heard of this VPN because even on the numerous occasions I've been shopping around for one, it's never been recommended or even listed in any VPN rating list (not even when searching on Google itself).
 
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Betonhaus said:
Question, if you for some reason wanted to set up a VPN over tor is there any advantages at all in doing so?
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I don't think there is any advantage in doing that. I mean, the maximum speed you might get on the 'Tor VPN' is 5 Mbps at best. I think you should just get a well-known privacy-focused VPN service like Mullvad and pay with XMR, or set up your own VPN. I can give you some videos that can guide you through the setup.
 
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clipartfan92 said:
Removing OpenVPN 15th January 2026
Mullvad (archive.ph)
By Mullvad Staff
2024-11-08 09:18:47GMT
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Any opinion on this from anyone who actually knows something about it? My barely informed belief is that OpenVPN in general has been approaching at least semi-deprecated status for a while, but is there some more sinister reason Mullvad would get rid of it? Or is it just a good idea?
 
AnOminous said:
Any opinion on this from anyone who actually knows something about it? My barely informed belief is that OpenVPN in general has been approaching at least semi-deprecated status for a while, but is there some more sinister reason Mullvad would get rid of it? Or is it just a good idea?
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OpenVPN is bloated (maybe 10x the lines of code), long handshaking, and extra protocol overhead
So it's much slower to connect, less resilient connection and generally slower.

It had the advantage of being universally supported and lots of features.
But WG now is just as well supported.

You need to try/compare both of them to see the difference
 
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It had the advantage of being universally supported and lots of features.
But WG now is just as well supported.

You need to try/compare both of them to see the difference
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I guess that's more or less what I thought. I have tried both, and OpenVPN used to be much more feature-rich. It isn't any more.

And WG is nearly universal at this point.

I just always suspect something sinister when anything changes at a VPN.
 
Mullvad has been fine for me for torrenting. Most stuff, relative to its level of obscurity and the health of the individual torrent, tends to download pretty fast.
 
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Is it retarded to pay for a vpn with a card, or can I trust mullvad with the information
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If you can trust them with your Internet traffic you should be able to trust them with your card. I use crypto but that's really only going to cut one step out of the process of tracking you down if it's something like the feds or Apple after you.

For anything more serious than angry lolcows, you're better off using Tor though.
 
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