VRChat - WAOW, it's the METAVERSE!!! (a growing den of pedophiles, furries, and troons that is advertised as safe for children)

Null said:
Please archive videos to the site as well.
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Sorry, original full upload was too large so I didn't include it in the post. I've edited my post with a lower quality version and with the changes being made around attachment limits, I can include more videos directly moving forward.

nyblanc said:
So far this doesn't look like anything meaningful beyond some discord retardation. I hope more info is found.
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Yeah it looks like there are plans to release more content around these individuals, so I assume this initially released information is a "teaser" for what's to come. That said, I should set the right expectation that there is very likely not going to be some underground pedophile ring or other crazy revelations here.

A challenge when reviewing claims involving these VRC troll YouTubers is that these communities seem to have a heavy leftist bias based on:
  • Excessive/Exaggerated usage of terms like power dynamics or exploitation
  • Whining about the usage of slurs/racism/etc
  • Being very pro-trans, defensive about "kinks", hypersexuality
I think that while it's correct for these YouTubers to be criticized for their behavior, I extremely disagree with the reasons used by their communities. In fact, utilizing their leftist lens to attack these people actually makes the problem worse as such concerns will not be taken seriously by the average person. For example, if you take Glass and start attacking him for his usage of slurs, it's already going to start tuning a lot of people out (slur usage is so low on totem pole of bad behavior) from taking it seriously. However, if you instead attack him for sending pictures of his dick to UNDERAGE GIRLS, well now it's taken more seriously (and rightfully so) as legitimate problematic behavior.

There are a few layers to this problem, so I'll try to organize my thoughts below to help illustrate how deep these issues go.

YouTube Channel Content​

These VRC troll YouTuber communities, while can have a variety of ages across the spectrum, generally lean quite young (children - people in their 20s). These YouTubers will end up entering very degenerate VRC instances/communities to look inside and mock what's going on. Let's look at some of their channels to see the types of degeneracy being highlighted/mocked:

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So, scanning over these channels, you can see various videos covering:
  • VRC Dating
  • VRC Daycare Worlds
  • VRC Diaper Furries
  • VRC DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) Communities
  • VRC ERP (Erotic RolePlay)
  • VRC Fat Furries
  • VRC Fandoms (Five Nights At Freddy's or FNAM, Hazbin Hotel, etc)
  • VRC Furry Families
  • VRC Phantom Sense
  • VRC Sexual/Nude Avatars

Most of these topics are tied to weird, degenerate sex fantasies/kinks/etc. Now, if you are an adult, it's perfectly fine to watch such content and laugh at these disgusting VRC creatures. However, children should not be exposed to such disgusting hypersexual content in VRC. Now, you may consider a defense like "well, it's YouTube's responsibility to handle age verification, so only adults are watching these videos". Well, these channels will edit these videos in any way they can to avoid their videos being age restricted so that they don't lose their push in the algorithm.

My question to these YouTubers is why are you doing what you can to avoid age restricting your content? If you agree that such content is covering disgustingly degenerate sexual behaviors/materials/etc, wouldn't you want children NOT to be exposed to such content? If you agree, then why do you censor your content just enough to be able to be shown to children?

The only logical position that these content creators have is that they think it's fine for children to be exposed to degenerate disgusting sexual behaviors/materials/etc as long as nudity, swearing, etc is censored enough to get past YouTube's automated systems. If that's the case, then they should just own this position, but don't put on this bullshit act about wanting to protect kids from predators in VRC while exposing children anyways to such content. Otherwise, they should age restrict all such content.

Discord Communities​

The whole mindset around these Discord communities is so broken if you think through the implications. Their Discord communities are linked from their YouTube channel, as seemingly a way to promote engagement and collaboration in their content creation. On the face of it, that is fine. But the problem comes down to children. They know that children are part of their community, so they will create separate channels accessible by "adults" and "children".

For example, UrghBla's Discord server used "unverified-*" channels for non-18+/mature discussion to occur, while other channels are only accessible with 18+ role (which you check a box when you join to select):
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In CloudzTrolls' Discord server, you have to make a ticket to get the 18+ role which involves sending some fucking random idiot one of his trusted staff members a censored photo of your ID:
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When Glass had his Discord server, he also took a similar approach to CloudzTrolls.

It is obviously retarded to send some random person your ID, even censored. It is even worse when these VRC troll YouTubers use such a fundamentally flawed system when children and very young adults are involved, who likely don't know better about the dangers of not protecting their identity online. Of course, they know not to do this with random creep strangers, but this also includes even YouTubers and their "staff/mods". So let's just remove this process from consideration.

If we don't have a method to truly and accurately identify if someone is an adult in Discord, then we should avoid any adult-type content and conversations in such spaces right? The problem then is that most of these VRC troll YouTubers end up engaging in sexual discussions, usually through private messages in Discord, with underage people in their community. This usually happens after they have already engaged with them in public discussions in their text/voice channels. There are two common defenses for this behavior:
  1. "She was age verified so I thought she was an adult"
  2. "I heard from other people that she was an adult"
But this all falls back on their fundamentally flawed process of age verification through Discord. No one every gives a straight answer about what the "right" way to do age verification when engaging sexually with people through Discord. Actually, CloudzTrolls had a discussion with UrghBla on UrghBla's August 9th 2025 stream, and he posed this question to UrghBla:


I think this gets to the heart of the problem with these VRC troll YouTubers in that they perform post-hoc rationalization once a minor is uncovered as being involved in a sexual discussion with the YouTuber, such that they blame the given YouTuber for not doing enough ID verification and that they themselves would not get into such a situation because they always do enough verification.

My position is that they are all ticking time bombs to be inevitable exposed for talking sexually with a minor because their process of ID verification is fundamentally flawed, and relying on "feelings and knowing someone online long enough" is NOT a valid form of age verification. It is a mix of smugness (in false belief they would never fall into such a trap) and ignorance (that their ID verification is so fundamentally flawed) that triggers me, because the end result of their behavior is that they victimize children online. I believe that these situations are what lead to people like Birdie existing, as a result of being exposed to these hypersexual environments at an early age.

What is the Solution? ​

Since this group of retards continue to victimize children with their degeneracy, if they were genuinely looking to prevent harm, here is what I suggest:
  1. Turn your Discord into an announcement only platform, only bringing people into private voice channels as part of some livestream activity. Larger YouTubers like ProximityChat and BubGames have taken this approach already.
  2. Self-ID your uploaded videos involving any adult/sexual content as age-restricted.
  3. End all parasocial behaviors. Do not engage with fans in private messaging or other private forms of communication. For example, being recognized "in the wild" when online in VRC is fine, but "hanging out" specifically with fans in VRC is not.
Treat YouTube like a job. You can generate fun content for the public without engaging deeply with fans. Put the trolling videos in the bag bro.
 
GizmoG said:
Self-ID your uploaded videos involving any adult/sexual content as age-restricted.
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GizmoG said:
Treat YouTube like a job,
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I don't want to harp on you too much for holding this view, but it's completely antithetical to expect them to treat it like a job and not maximize profits. Age restrictions hurt channels from my vague understanding of the YT algorithm, can't get ads for revenue (most of these people make more from streaming anyways) and it makes the videos completely undiscoverable unless sought out or shared.
 
MothLurker said:
I don't want to harp on you too much for holding this view, but it's completely antithetical to expect them to treat it like a job and not maximize profits. Age restrictions hurt channels from my vague understanding of the YT algorithm, can't get ads for revenue (most of these people make more from streaming anyways) and it makes the videos completely undiscoverable unless sought out or shared.
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Yes, it is fair to point out that this would negatively impact their ability to monetize such content. The rationale to do this definitely won't come from any direct monetary value, but more from a moral perspective.

I'm sure we can think of countless examples in which we accept tradeoffs in additional costs for moral, safety, etc reasons:
  • Restrictions in toxic waste disposal vs. letting people dump toxic waste into rivers/lakes
  • Restrictions in car manufacturing to ensure crash safety standards are met vs. avoiding need to include seatbelts/airbags, force particular body design, perform recalls, etc
  • Usage of railway crossing arms/signals/etc vs. simply expecting people to look before proceeding through any railway crossings
  • Ending the use of asbestos in manufacturing vs. cost/durability value in using asbestos
  • Enforcement of academic integrity in undergraduate studies vs. taking student submissions at face value, not pay for test invigilators, etc
  • Moderation of online video game spaces to protect children vs. not having to pay people to perform/manage moderation
Now, granted, in some cases there are still going to be some amount of other contributing factors besides morality, safety, etc. But I would say that the main driving factor in situations like these is that we put a strong value in morality and accept the costs involved in these situations. While we can always debate how much we prioritize morality/safety/etc against costs and other measures, I would much rather live in a western society that makes this consideration vs. living in a shithole like India where the culture is focused on getting ahead at the expense of others.

If a movie was released today as rated G, but contained scenes of intense violence and language, I would imagine that the average person would be horrified. They would be shocked not because of the acts themselves (which would be fine in a rated R movie), but that it is rated such that it is readily accessible to children. How is this any different from YouTubers covering disgusting sexual deviancy like diaper fetishs, age play, etc who don't mark that their video contains age-restricted content and slips it past the automatic YouTube sensors, such that children have access to it? If a parent thinks a particular piece of media is acceptable enough (depending on it's depictions) for their child to see, I'm fine with a parent making this decision, but surely we wouldn't want this type of content just readily available in same way that Bluey or other children's cartoons are?

If VRC troll YouTubers do not want to accurately age-restrict their content because it will hurt them financially, that is up to them of course. But they can then no longer moralfag about "protecting children" and attacking predators online when they are literally introducing children to degeneracy through their YouTube videos. I would respect the grift more if they said "yup, honestly it's easy content and easy money, so fuck them kids".
 
Ryuk5 said:
Minka Purple who was a notorious Second Life troll (she roasted people's profiles) has recently moved to VRChat. I've been following her for awhile now and she's starting to enter low cow status.

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As stated by Kafkaesque she's begun harassing VRchat users while Drunk. Typically insinuating their all losers while she herself is 45 year with no family or freinds.



Her current videos are mediocre in compassion of old stuff and frankly kind of of embarrassing because she just goes around and insults people for no real reason.

Essentially she's a 45 year old woman acting like a teenager from mean girls.



So my question for the people in this thread is this, have any of you had experience with Minka Purple and if so what was it like.
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She reminds me of Bub games. his a gmod troll channel that essentially does "trolling" by just being unnecessarily mean for no reason, and goes around servers insulting whoever he finds, while the people he fucks with are more retarded and degenerate, his way of trolling is not fun at all unlike (hate to admit despite him being a faggot) jamskii, callmekevin and zuthar's where they at least play along with the users there and fuck with the admins before they start shit and get banned, bub games straight up just hurls insults in people. acts like a dick and gets banned.

If you wanna "troll" people, at least do it with some fun and entertainment, play along a little and have some fun with the tards there before you annoy the fuck out of them and eventually get banned.
 
MothLurker said:
from my vague understanding of the YT algorithm, can't get ads for revenue (most of these people make more from streaming anyways) and it makes the videos completely undiscoverable unless sought out or shared.
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This, a lot of platform engagement comes from people using the website while logged-in also (thus not age verified). It's hard to balance realistically, especially on YouTube.
That being said, I do think the flashy thumbnails and lack of even an age warning is an indication that a lot of these channels are trying to appeal to a younger audience. But zoomers/younger are also the only group of people who watch these videos anyways. One can hope this is just out of ignorance, a whole "I censor the actual degeneracy!" mindset, rather than any deliberate recklessness.

GizmoG said:
If VRC troll YouTubers do not want to accurately age-restrict their content because it will hurt them financially, that is up to them of course. But they can then no longer moralfag about "protecting children"
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One thing worth mentioning is that a lot of kids will try to replicate the behavior of these channels, as in going to these spaces themselves to 'troll'. This will lead to them getting wrapped up into these communities and groomed or at least exposed to stuff that would otherwise be censored on YouTube. It was a similar issue a few years ago where discord 'predator catching' was very popular on YouTube; kids and teens ended up getting groomed or exposed to degenerate content because they also wanted to run their own sting operations (without any idea of how to do so). In both of these cases, YouTubers make it look like you just waltz into a space and start laughing at people, and things never go too far (because such things are never shown).
 
GizmoG said:
There is some ongoing drama with VRC Troll YouTubers Osai, RatGrave, and Masenko who are being exposed as a mixture of predators, lolicon enjoyers, possible pedos, etc.
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UrghBla uploaded a video going over the whole situation, with new info.
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Expanding on what UrghBla went through, about Benelli, UrghBla had a livestream that went over it. You can watch an archive of it here. The call that he and Cloudz threatened an underage individual can be watched here.
VietMan said:
At 3:00:13, UrghBla goes over a Discord call that Cloudz and Benelli had with Horizon. This is that call.
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The video that Cloudz uploaded and privated was this one.

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On Modulace, he went over some information about it in this stream, starting at 35:50. In short, she was/is a furry who had an inkbunny account that followed some cub artists and replied to some tweets that were loli porn.
Odysee archive.
 
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vrchatporn.com :scared:
 
Niggerphobe said:
Do psychologists ever look at vrchat
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I don't know if they're psychologists but people have published actual scientific studies on VRChat users.
Markass the Worst

Post in thread 'VRChat'

Researchers are literally studying VRChat mirror dwellers.

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The study is paywalled but there is an accompanying github.io page with more details (a) and they have included a free video presentation.



But that's not the only study. There's another one and this time it's free to access (PDF attached).

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Reactions:Informative x 20 Lunacy x 1 Lol x 1 Thunk-Provoking x 2
 
Spruce Supremacist said:
To this day I cannot wrap my head around how people can unironically enjoy and willingly present themselves in a virtual 3D chatroom -- be it Second Life, IMVU, or in this case VRChat -- as a greasy, ran-through bootleg Bratz doll with overexaggerated bodily proportions and and Uncanny Valley inducing pseudo-realistic textures and shading. Can someone please help me understand what is the appeal of those models? What's the psychology behind it? Personally I find them absolutely physically repulsive so I have no idea.
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My guess is that it's a combination of the hipster effect, heavy porn use, and idealism.

A lot of people who make those models just lego them together and use the same selection of parts, often from MMD, and have little knowledge of 3D modeling and Unity. So you get a lot of copy cats and an endless race to try and be different in vain as none of them have a creative bone in their body or good taste. Due to how common the models are, it just ends up as white noise to me.

Plus, a lot of people have the same modern idea of "let people be" and hate the idea of saying no to others. The sheer amount of seething mockery people get when they speak up is astounding.

And lastly, none of these people are happy with themselves and try to find their "ideal" self, which often gets warped thanks to the other two reasons. The images seen here prove that.
 
Sileskios has released a short YouTube video based on his doc, also going through BenelliTrolls (talking sexually with minor) and Modulace (cub/loli shit) situations:

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Seems to skim over the doc evidence documented at a high level, with some minor additions like DMs with the person talking to Osai.
 
After seeing the Tygre feature I decided to look for some degen furries on Twitch and LITERALLY IMMEDIATELY found a VRChat pedophile.
Searching "babyfur" on Twitch brought me to a channel called "babyfur_gamer". This is what their channel looks like:
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In their bio they claim to be 22 years old. In a stream from yesterday he is playing VRChat with his "friend", who is a boy that is clearly no older than 14 by his voice. He is using a furry model in a diaper.


I've only watched a few minutes worth so I don't know if he talks about anything sexual or similar, but this guy is very clearly a predator regardless. His other streams also feature different children and teenagers as his "friends" in VRChat.
 

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Last time we covered VRC Troll YouTubers, there were a bunch of them being exposed for being degenerate, pathetic faggots. This resulted in continued shit-flinging, leveling up to (seemingly) gayops to start taking each other down. First, let's start with our favorite VRC Troll YouTuber Glass.

Glass "Exposes" UrghBla vs. Schizo VRC Player (VRCBrisket)​

Glass had suddenly stopped hyping up his planned "UrghBla" nuke to reveal that he was planning on releasing some new UrghBla information. At the same time, CloudzTrolls had made a community post referencing some interactions that UrghBla had with some VRC player named "VRCBrisket". Also ongoing, there have been people going into UrghBla's Discord to spam disgusting lolicon shit, causing UrghBla to need to restrict permissions for new users. The evidence presented was relatively flakey and seemed to exaggerate the claims made, which lines up with some older messages from people referencing this person as a schizo VRC player. This started to reek of gayops, with Glass being used at the catalyst to attack UrghBla due to Glass' frothing at the mouth rage against UrghBla. This would then be proven true soon after.

Glass' Uses Discord and Kiwi Farms Sock Accounts​

It was initially theorized (and later confirmed by Glass on his stream) that a Discord account F4numTax3r_ was being used to get in touch with CloudzTrolls to present more UrghBla info while also publicly shitting on UrghBla and glazing Glass. This account also went into UrghBla's server to defend CloudzTrolls while also saying weird shit like wanting to report having nudes of Soulless (who Glass has a fixation of threatening to release photos of her feet), as well as further glazing Glass. Eventually, everyone thought he was a weird fuck and he was banned from UrghBla's Discord.

The night before Glass' stream (covered further down), there is a new account @KingKoda who makes an appearance in the thread to dump a bunch of screenshots involving UrghBla's girlfriend and UrghBla's mod team. Note that the post was manually approved, so it wasn't visible in the thread until hours later. The posting style matches Glass' previous sock accounts, which led to the thread quickly identifying this as yet another Glass account.

I've compiled a list of Glass' currently known Discord/Kiwi Farms sock accounts to help track this, as this is a common tactic he uses to engage in all of his failed gayops.

UrghBla's Stream on VRCBrisket​

UrghBla streams about the "evidence" being posted about his interactions with the schizo VRC player VRCBrisket, which leads to Glass getting into the chat to fight with UrghBla. Glass also implies that he has information about UrghBla's relationship with his girlfriend, about being a shitty boyfriend, etc.

It's then discovered by @VietMan that the quotes that Glass was posting in these stream comments are lifted from a reddit account tied to UrghBla's girlfriend. She is revealed to be posting on various relationship related subreddits about her situation with UrghBla. The gist of it is summarized by @DEAD BIRD:
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In doxing UrghBla's girlfriend, all he accomplished was sharing images of Urgh's girlfriend, and Reddit posts from her revealing that she is kept awake at night by UrghBla yelling in Discord calls like a man-child, while she is working a full-time job.
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It's embarrassing (but not surprising) that a VRC troll YouTuber like UrghBla is a unproductive, selfish faggot who makes the lives of those around him challenging. Though trying to make this anything more than UrghBla being a shitty boyfriend seems excessive. But, give Glass an inch, and he'll take a mile.

Glass' Stream on UrghBla's Girlfriend​

Glass fires up a stream to go over the Reddit account posts from UrghBla's girlfriend, and present the situation as a "disgusting, abusive relationship" and make UrghBla out to be one of the worst types of people. Glass seems to think that any of his detractors having negative things revealed about them somehow exonerate him, as if it's a zero-sum game.

Glass mentions that he got this information from "Doom", hinting at there being way more information available he is utilizing for his UrghBla nuke.

Current Theory​

The general consensus from the Glass thread participants is that Glass is simply being used here to simply put out the information tied to UrghBla due to his seething hatred of UrghBla (blaming UrghBla for all of his problems). It's likely that "Doom" is:
  1. Someone from CloudzTrolls' community, as a result of UrghBla recently attacking CloudzTrolls

  2. Someone from ProximityChat's community, as Glass has previously been a victim of gayops with Chobani, Daniel Ackerman (and their group) who trolled Glass about being involved with the thread and saying most of the prominent users were either UrghBla or some other VRC troll. @MK3 put together a hilarious but clean video of the stream and call tied to this situation.

I'm leaning towards #2 as being more likely, as these guys aren't a fan of UrghBla. I can see a scenario where they utilize Glass again, but this time to target UrghBla. Since Glass is looking for any scraps of information on UrghBla, he would not care at all where this information is coming from, so they could easily create an alt account (i.e. "Doom") to reach out to Glass and send him this information, so that they themselves wouldn't be linked to it.

I am also concerned about the quality of "evidence" that Glass is presenting next. If you are going to be a big expose on someone, you generally want to lead with the most hard hitting pieces first to pull people in and then reveal all the other information available as well. Imagine if the Jeffrey Epstein hit pieces went with "EPSTEIN SPEEDS 10MPH OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, HE DOESN'T PUT AWAY HIS SHOPPING CART AFTER USING IT, ..., ALSO HIS ISLAND IS A DEN OF PEDOPHILIA" instead of leading with the most obvious crazy point first. If Glass had to lead with "UrghBla is a shitty boyfriend", then his planned UrghBla nuke is likely to be yet another dud (like his 3 other "UrghBla nukes").
 
New BrandonFM kino just dropped, in collaboration with UrghBla:
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I'm watching now, but it's focused on exposing Fusl, an actual VRChat employee, for things as bad as CSAM. :stress:
 
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