VTuber Pikamee retires from streaming after trans pushback over Hogwarts Legacy

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Given everything that's been said, I'm inclined to think she WAS thinking about retiring and had voiced as much to her peers within the Vtuber community, but was still on the fence about it. Especially since people are saying she'd been away from streaming for months due to family sickness and streaming is a BIG commitment. So she was coming back to see if she still felt comfortable and she probably had people asking her to play HL because that's the hot flavor right now.

Then after she announces the stream, she gets wrecked by the harassment and cancels the stream, with her deciding that if this is the kind of shit she's going to be getting out of the blue now, then she wants no part of it and thus her retirement announcement after another period of silence.

Essentially, Troons simply made it that much easier for her to decide to retire sooner rather than later, as I'm guessing talks were already happening and she would have retired later this year with a bigger celebration planned.

The fact she's liking comments about going after the harassment says a lot, since I would expect she can't speak publicly about the reasons for 'graduating' at present.
Acknowledging why she's graduating, that it's from politics, would send the whole Vtuber space into a frenzy, it might actually rip it apart. What she's doing is very Japanese, being quiet outwardly while still making gestures as to why things are happening. At this point, everyone knows WHY it's happening, letting nature take its course will keep the industry itself safe, which given how much time she's dumped in is probably what she wants.
 
They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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It's the same situation as it was in 2014, even if it wasn't intentionally about video games this time around (since this incident is about a video game tangenally related to a woman who liked one tweet most people never even knew ever got posted), but it does underscore an eternal truth:

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

This is the same playbook as what happened in 2014. Troons have been exploiting their connections to get their tendrils into pop culture, to change social narrative. And now they've taken it one step to far in a way that can not be spun. With Gamergate, it was a shitty text adventure released to garner clout in the wake of a famous actor's depression-induced suicide that was a shitty game, yet recieved near universal praise in video game jornalism pieces, and in the subsequent backlash resulted in the 'Gamers are Dead' press releases that were too coordinated to be anything but subversive collusion. Here, the troons attacked a beloved community figure who literally didn't do fucking anything except announce they were going to play a specific game and the troons cheered her announcement of retirement (until it became clear that their actions were being blamed for it), and now they're blaming literally every single other thing besides themselves (including vague references to 'bad actors' without naming names) just like the 'Gamers are Dead' efforts.

It's just a powderkeg that's waiting to blow.
 
Much like how that one fucker said Pika 'grew as a person' because of it.

Thats literally what abusers say to their victims and others to justify their actions. "He/she is better as a person now thanks to me". No, they arent you fucking psychopath.
There's definitely an argument to be made about how almost all of the troons have NPD (and also don't want to see actual therapists who would diagnose that shit, imagine that). They don't care about whose lives they ruin other than their own - to them, somebody like Pika doesn't even exist. She's just an online presence who said something they don't like ("I'mma gonna play this specific video game") and they lashed out at her, and to them the fact this almost certainly played a part in her retirement announcement is 'just deserts' in their eyes.

I feel like this is kind of a soft version of a vicious cycle. Like it or not, many cant handle the internet responsibly and social media did a number on people's capacity for empathy. The internet, to many now, IS the real world and they treat people online in this bizarre middle group where they can treat someone like they dont exist IRL and yet want others to treat them like a living thinking being. At least when the farms mocks someone, its usually because they already humiliated themselves on purpose, also they tend to be pieces of shit IRL(and nowadays we seriously look down upon "operations" to troll them further. Its not necessary and they usually end up trolling themselves anyway). However, these people go after individuals that havent done anything beyond something petty like she fucking played a game they dont approve politically of.

So to go back to my original point, the internet wasnt particularly healthy for the mental developtment of many, especially on the younger and mentally fragile side, now you would expect this to be something a normal sane person would eventually grow out of but its not. The internet places them in a state that feeds their egos, their egos grow bigger and thus we find themselves in that cycle I mentioned in the beginning. A beast feeding itself bigger and bigger, needing more "sacrifices" so that they can feel validated because they deep down really hate themselves.
 
They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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Excellent !

 
I don't understand why everyone here is acting like this is going to change anything. Nothings going to change. Look at the narrative being spun now. Trannies will never take responsibility or accountability for anything, and normies will never force them to do so. Look at how its turned from "Pikamee was harassed by deranged trannies" to "you're just a transphobe and your mask is slipping, be nicer".


No, Pikamee's retirement isn't going to change anything. Trannies are going to continue to tear down society, and the establishment is going to let them.

Fuck trannies.
Maybe. Maybe not.

Good news, everyone! The banks that dictate our lives and society are beginning to consider doing so the right way for the time being!
 
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It's the same situation as it was in 2014, even if it wasn't intentionally about video games this time around (since this incident is about a video game tangenally related to a woman who liked one tweet most people never even knew ever got posted), but it does underscore an eternal truth:

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

This is the same playbook as what happened in 2014. Troons have been exploiting their connections to get their tendrils into pop culture, to change social narrative. And now they've taken it one step to far in a way that can not be spun. With Gamergate, it was a shitty text adventure released to garner clout in the wake of a famous actor's depression-induced suicide that was a shitty game, yet recieved near universal praise in video game jornalism pieces, and in the subsequent backlash resulted in the 'Gamers are Dead' press releases that were too coordinated to be anything but subversive collusion. Here, the troons attacked a beloved community figure who literally didn't do fucking anything except announce they were going to play a specific game and the troons cheered her announcement of retirement (until it became clear that their actions were being blamed for it), and now they're blaming literally every single other thing besides themselves (including vague references to 'bad actors' without naming names) just like the 'Gamers are Dead' efforts.

It's just a powderkeg that's waiting to blow.
It wasn't really the VT that sparked it but them fucking with Harry Potter. I missed that train but from what I glimpsed of it.. it seems like a rather wholesome story. Nothing burns good will like going after something people enjoy that is universally know as not being contentious.
 
They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony woman's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.'
 
I wish I understood what women like that gain from supporting the very movement that basically wants to overpower and eradicate them. You're sharing talking points with fetishists, misogynists and gaping wound-having, tantrum throwers.
Over the past few years it's occurred to me that when women like that bleat about how their political enemies are retrograde patriarchal puritans & tyrants who want to drag society back to the Dark Ages and reduce all women to 'handmaidens' with no purpose in life other than that of breeding stock for Christian nationalist stormtroopers or whatever, they're projecting so hard that they actually completely miss the mark. Victorian society, the most obvious example of an overtly Christian and patriarchal society for these clowns to refer to, acknowledged distinctions between the public & private spheres as well as male- and female-exclusive spaces, and genuinely expected more of women than to be brainless sluts who existed solely for the pleasure of their menfolk (if they didn't give a shit, they'd be celebrating the concept of the 'fallen woman', not treating it as a taboo). Hell, even Islamic society not only expects but rigorously enforces the idea of private women-only spaces, no man would be allowed to follow a woman into a bathhouse in a Muslim country regardless of whether he wears a dress and the harem was such fertile ground for male writers' imagination precisely because the guards (who were eunuchs, incidentally) barred all men other than the Sultan/Caliph from there.

It's only troons who (fittingly for the final form of incels) expect women be nothing but absolutely submissive playthings, with no purpose in life whatsoever outside of catering to their every whim and metaphorically or literally sucking them off whenever they demand it, and to generally be sexually available bimbo automatons 24/7 with zero independent thought - any political opinions they have must be the same opinions their tranny master holds. If a woman dares to say 'no' to them in any aspect, from rejecting their advances to saying out loud that maybe turning women's prisons or abuse survivor shelters into all-you-can-rape buffets for male rapists who identify as true & honest women is a bad idea, they must destroy her by any means necessary and will bury her in a deluge of lurid utterly non-feminine rape and death threats at a minimum, as JK Rowling's 180 from an author of beloved children's books to Empress of the TERFs demonstrates. Or, indeed, as can be seen from how they've treated Pikamee and Silvervale for wanting to play Hogwarts Legacy - the latter publicly standing up to the tranny hate brigade has driven them even madder still, they were trying to fake a suicide to blame on her this past weekend.

Only coombrained losers carrying water for the troons and the woke cause du jour like 'Sarah' of OnlyFans back there are willing to debase themselves to that level for the sake of troons who'd throw them away like a used rag the instant they get bored. They sure as all hell fit the label of 'handmaiden' a lot better than the conservative suburban moms getting mad at their kids' school for trying to make said kids troon out, Rowling who's been donating to causes that exclusively help real women, or VTubers like Pikamee who just want to play a fucking game for a few hours' amusement both for themselves and their audiences.
 
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It's the same situation as it was in 2014, even if it wasn't intentionally about video games this time around (since this incident is about a video game tangenally related to a woman who liked one tweet most people never even knew ever got posted), but it does underscore an eternal truth:

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

This is the same playbook as what happened in 2014. Troons have been exploiting their connections to get their tendrils into pop culture, to change social narrative. And now they've taken it one step to far in a way that can not be spun. With Gamergate, it was a shitty text adventure released to garner clout in the wake of a famous actor's depression-induced suicide that was a shitty game, yet recieved near universal praise in video game jornalism pieces, and in the subsequent backlash resulted in the 'Gamers are Dead' press releases that were too coordinated to be anything but subversive collusion. Here, the troons attacked a beloved community figure who literally didn't do fucking anything except announce they were going to play a specific game and the troons cheered her announcement of retirement (until it became clear that their actions were being blamed for it), and now they're blaming literally every single other thing besides themselves (including vague references to 'bad actors' without naming names) just like the 'Gamers are Dead' efforts.

It's just a powderkeg that's waiting to blow.
Well now we just have to get Trump elected (again), and maybe have him post about Gamergate for good measure.

Those seem like such innocent days compared to now, don't they?
 
Over the past few years it's occurred to me that when women like that bleat about how their political enemies are retrograde patriarchal puritans & tyrants who want to drag society back to the Dark Ages and reduce all women to 'handmaidens' with no purpose in life other than that of breeding stock for Christian nationalist stormtroopers or whatever, they're projecting so hard that they actually completely miss the mark. Victorian society, the most obvious example of an overtly Christian and patriarchal society for these clowns to refer to, acknowledged distinctions between the public & private spheres as well as male- and female-exclusive spaces, and genuinely expected more of women than to be brainless sluts who existed solely for the pleasure of their menfolk (if they didn't give a shit, they'd be celebrating the concept of the 'fallen woman', not treating it as a taboo). Hell, even Islamic society not only expects but rigorously enforces the idea of private women-only spaces, no man would be allowed to follow a woman into a bathhouse in a Muslim country regardless of whether he wears a dress and the harem was such fertile ground for male writers' imagination precisely because the guards (who were eunuchs, incidentally) barred all men other than the Sultan/Caliph from there.

It's only troons who (fittingly for the final form of incels) expect women be nothing but absolutely submissive playthings, with no purpose in life whatsoever outside of catering to their every whim and metaphorically or literally sucking them off whenever they demand it, and to generally be sexually available bimbo automatons 24/7 with zero independent thought - any political opinions they have must be the same opinions their tranny master holds. If a woman dares to say 'no' to them in any aspect, from rejecting their advances to saying out loud that maybe turning women's prisons or abuse survivor shelters into all-you-can-rape buffets for male rapists who identify as true & honest women is a bad idea, they must destroy her by any means necessary and will bury her in a deluge of lurid utterly non-feminine rape and death threats at a minimum, as JK Rowling's 180 from an author of beloved children's books to Empress of the TERFs demonstrates. Or, indeed, as can be seen from how they've treated Pikamee and Silvervale for wanting to play Hogwarts Legacy - the latter publicly standing up to the tranny hate brigade has driven them even madder still, they were trying to fake a suicide to blame on her this past weekend.

Only coombrained losers carrying water for the troons and the woke cause du jour like 'Sarah' of OnlyFans back there are willing to debase themselves to that level for the sake of troons who'd throw them away like a used rag the instant they get bored. They sure as all hell fit the label of 'handmaiden' a lot better than the conservative suburban moms getting mad at their kids' school for trying to make said kids troon out, Rowling who's been donating to causes that exclusively help real women, or VTubers like Pikamee who just want to play a fucking game for a few hours' amusement both for themselves and their audiences.
It's one hell of a day when Islam treats its women better- they can bathe and piss in peace. The troons won't even allow that. They have a fundamental issue with women, because they were denied pussy once, and instead of shrugging it off like a normal person, they must rain vengeance down on the world. Its.... actual cartoon villain shit. Like a bad fan fiction of said cartoon. But its real and we're living it. But just like a cartoon, their antics have awakened a ancient force. Time will tell if the weebs can do anything.
 
I've seen a bit of the discourse on twitter from trannies, they all say "it's not our fault, it's the bad faith actors!"

And while that may technically be true, I'm sure these exact same people cheer in the same """bad faith actors""" whenever they go on a crusade with people deemed ontologically evil.

Until the people who want to be left alone join in being so toxic to the crybullies they leave the internet, shit like this will continue to happen.
 
It breaks my heart that Pikamee was harassed so much to the point of she had to graduate. She already went through bullying in real life prior to her vtubing. She more than likely wasn't aware of the stupid discourse around Hogwarts Legacy due to people in Japan not really giving a fuck about whatever JK Rowling says or does. I can only hope she doesn't give up on vtubing completely because of this, but if she does move on I can only wish her the best in life.

The main culprits complaining and contributing to the harassment are mostly "VTweeters" and their sycophants. All VTweeters do is grift off the label vtuber and usually don't have a model, personality, or talent worth presenting. A fair amount of them seem to be MTF and have a distaste for certain anime tropes like fanservice for some reason. It doesn't surprise me that they'd invade a hobby such as this and demand that others adhere to their standards. The trans community gloating about harassing a beloved streamer is probably the last straw for many people who've had to tolerate their abhorrent behavior for years.
 
I've seen a bit of the discourse on twitter from trannies, they all say "it's not our fault, it's the bad faith actors!"

And while that may technically be true, I'm sure these exact same people cheer in the same """bad faith actors""" whenever they go on a crusade with people deemed ontologically evil.

Until the people who want to be left alone join in being so toxic to the crybullies they leave the internet, shit like this will continue to happen.
They say that but those same people go mask off and say her retiring is a good thing in some cases and in all cases giving credence to the idea the harassers had a point with the game being "transphobic" . They're all guilty
 
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