WACO was not a tragedy.

Not Really Here said:
Your years of pretending you understand empathy, and morality, ended today.
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I don't understand why anyone makes these responses. This guy is being a shitter, but there are people who genuinely believe the shit he says. Why would you try and use guilt and shame and appeals to morality to people who genuinely see nothing wrong with mass slaughtering church goers and their children? Do you think that will move them? The only way to argue against such people is to force them into the position of weakness instead of arguing from it yourself.

Example. If you encounter a nigger celebrating an act of violence done against a white person, instead of going "oh you're racist you terrible terrible person what about MLK" or something, you call them a nigger and post a clip of a police officer murdering a black person in cold blood. The less defensible, the better. People who only respect force only respect force. Not shaming.
 
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Black Spruce said:
I don't understand why anyone makes these responses. This guy is being a shitter, but there are people who genuinely believe the shit he says. Why would you try and use guilt and shame and appeals to morality to people who genuinely see nothing wrong with mass slaughtering church goers and their children? Do you think that will move them? The only way to argue against such people is to force them into the position of weakness instead of arguing from it yourself.

Example. If you encounter a nigger celebrating an act of violence done against a white person, instead of going "oh you're racist you terrible terrible person what about MLK" or something, you call them a nigger and post a clip of a police officer murdering a black person in cold blood. The less defensible, the better. People who only respect force only respect force. Not shaming.
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I agree with this. Do not feed the trolls. Instead go to a therapist and figure out why you are such an assmad little bitch on the internet.
 
Napoleon Bonerfart said:
It is a minor nuisance here is that the children were not evacuated first.

But, it's a pretty well-known public fact that the Branch dravidians were raping and grooming a lot of children. I think we can forgo due process for those assholes.
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You think innocent children, who you believe were rape victims, being burned alive is simply a “minor nuisance?”
That’s horrendous.

As for it being a “public fact,” public opinion/belief is not the burden which our system requires for conviction. And for good reason. It’s insanely easy to convince the public of a fact. Far too easy to justify people being able to lose their lives on that basis.
Just look at you, you’re asserting the Branch Davidians were raping kids, but I guarantee you have no evidence other than hearsay from the feds.
 
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You think innocent children, who you believe were rape victims, being burned alive is simply a “minor nuisance?”
That’s horrendous.

As for it being a “public fact,” public opinion/belief is not the burden which our system requires for conviction. And for good reason. It’s insanely easy to convince the public of a fact. Far too easy to justify people being able to lose their lives on that basis.
Just look at you, you’re asserting the Branch Davidians were raping kids, but I guarantee you have no evidence other than hearsay from the feds.
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If human babies were somehow special or unique I would give a shit. It's not like a zookeeper shot and endangered gorilla or anything. When we can certainly make human babies faster in captive breeding programs than we can endangered gorillas.
 
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They should've let the women live so they could've been raped for the rest of their lives lol
 
Black Spruce said:
I don't understand why anyone makes these responses. This guy is being a shitter, but there are people who genuinely believe the shit he says. Why would you try and use guilt and shame and appeals to morality to people who genuinely see nothing wrong with mass slaughtering church goers and their children? Do you think that will move them? The only way to argue against such people is to force them into the position of weakness instead of arguing from it yourself.

Example. If you encounter a nigger celebrating an act of violence done against a white person, instead of going "oh you're racist you terrible terrible person what about MLK" or something, you call them a nigger and post a clip of a police officer murdering a black person in cold blood. The less defensible, the better. People who only respect force only respect force. Not shaming.
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Perfectly understandable, but it's difficult to do that elsewhere online.

You can do that on 4chan/Soyjak and to an extent KF and other forums, but IRL there might be real consequences to just calling someone a nigger.

In most cases it's better just to ignore and keep walking, or if you encounter real violent threats, to report to police. Calling a nigger a nigger might get you fired or punched, but getting him arrested will cause a headline and fuck up his week.

TLDR Yes, don't play the moral game, but use the system.
"Nigger" responsibly.
 
The main issue was that the US Government took a bad situation and made it a lot worse.
I don’t know if there was kid rape going on, but it’s a possibility but even that’s sketchy when you get into the weeds of it.
But laying siege to a compound full of women and most importantly children instead of trying literally anything else was a horrible idea, as was burning down the compound that again was full of innocent children. It’s like a feedback loop of retardation, someone should have stopped it earlier and the government had the ability to do so in less destructive ways.
 
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he kiddy diddling allegations were invented by scorned an ex member who became an alog. i think that guy also claimed he impregnated an 80 year old woman, to which koresh responded, facetously "if i can get an 80 year old pregnant then i must be god," or something like that i havent thought about this stuff in years. the atf also claimed the branch davidians were manufacturing drugs ( a lie fabricated so the atf could bring in apcs) on top of possessing ak-47 upper recievers ( the lynch pin of the warrant that started the siege, and is a non existent component.)

for anyone who wants to know what actually occured, here is a documentary on the subject, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1b-PHdFZU also got a local copy since its only 72mb. the other ones are longer but there are more videos on that channel if you want more info, but i think this first one is enough for a casual viewer,
 

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Napoleon Bonerfart said:
No, I'm just saying that a couple of children burning to death in the grand scheme of things is not really that big of a deal. It's the fault of the adults for using children as human Shields.

The sooner we stop letting people get away with that sort of weasel move, the sooner they'll stop trying.
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Timmy M was justified in taking that ryder truck to offload fertilizer in response then because the kids won't have to grow up to deal with the trauma of family members being federal agents
 
There was never any evidence for the claims of child sexual abuse by David Koresh or any of the Branch Davidians. Texas Child Protection Services came up with donuts after a 6-month investigation. The ATF sieged Waco as a way of trying to recover their reputation after Ruby Ridge. Then the ATF realized that when the targets shoot back, it isn't so much fun.
 
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Rimanah said:
You think innocent children, who you believe were rape victims, being burned alive is simply a “minor nuisance?”
That’s horrendous.

As for it being a “public fact,” public opinion/belief is not the burden which our system requires for conviction. And for good reason. It’s insanely easy to convince the public of a fact. Far too easy to justify people being able to lose their lives on that basis.
Just look at you, you’re asserting the Branch Davidians were raping kids, but I guarantee you have no evidence other than hearsay from the feds.
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You can absolutely profile people into being pedophiles based on how they dress and behave. For example, if they crossdress and have danger hair, they are at a similar profiling risk for being a pedophile as somebody who dresses and acts like a Branch Dravidian.
 
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Suel Forrester said:
were they? weird how all the evidence for such a claim was conveniently incinerated
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Yeah, but I wouldn't worry too much about it because there are so many other pedophiles that deserve to be immolated on this planet that we have to move forward.
 
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