Warhammer: 40,000 - Rogue Trader - CRPG by Owlcat games

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wtfNeedSignUp said:
Ork companions would be awesome but I don't really get how it would work in lore consider having an Ork on a planet is worse than putting a Nurgle worshipper in a auto immune deficiency ward.
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Expanse is wild sector so half the planets are probably infested by Ork spores.
 
Janusz z Gliwic said:
I'm doing Yrliet "romance", and I think it shouldn't conflict with rest of romances. If I didn't know it's classed as romance, I'd never consider it as such and would view it only as part of her questline. I disabled jealously in toybox to also see Kibellah's romance, hopefully nothing breaks.
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You're thinking of it in terms of romance being the only issue. Think about how each of the other characters think of you spending all that time alone in your quarters with Yrliet:

- Heinrix: Xeno fraterniser, probably has some horrible space cooties now to boot.
- Cassia: The Rogue Trader should be spending all free time with me and should not even acknowledge other women's existence. It says so in my book on courtly love. Hell, Cassia probably gives you the 5th degree when you ask Vox Mistress Vigdis if she's heard any rumours!
- Jae: Doesn't believe you're not sleeping with Yrliet because she would.
- Marazhai: Doesn't want to get involved with someone who is into all that hippie Craftworld spiritual crap. The equivalent of finding out that your potential partner is deeply into train spotting.
 
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Overly Serious said:
You're thinking of it in terms of romance being the only issue. Think about how each of the other characters think of you spending all that time alone in your quarters with Yrliet:

- Heinrix: Xeno fraterniser, probably has some horrible space cooties now to boot.
- Cassia: The Rogue Trader should be spending all free time with me and should not even acknowledge other women's existence. It says so in my book on courtly love. Hell, Cassia probably gives you the 5th degree when you ask Vox Mistress Vigdis if she's heard any rumours!
- Jae: Doesn't believe you're not sleeping with Yrliet because she would.
- Marazhai: Doesn't want to get involved with someone who is into all that hippie Craftworld spiritual crap. The equivalent of finding out that your potential partner is deeply into train spotting.
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The big issue with the depiction of Eldar in art is that it's always rather generic Space Elves. Lore-wise (usually) Eldar would just kickoff every sense of uncanny valley you have into overdrive. It's full on wrong proportions and wrong movement like a Skinwalker.

Now that doesn't mean no one will try to fuck one. But you'll need to be one MASSIVE degenerate to even entertain that notion, and in-universe it would be the same as fucking corpses.
 
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Overly Serious said:
You're thinking of it in terms of romance being the only issue. Think about how each of the other characters think of you spending all that time alone in your quarters with Yrliet:
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I didn't think about it this way but for most there is still chance they would get over it. Though I think I'll need to disable no jealously and see how these conversations go.
Overly Serious said:
- Heinrix: Xeno fraterniser, probably has some horrible space cooties now to boot.
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Let us be honest, there is very, very long list of things Rogue Trader can do that would cause Heinrix to want nothing to do with her at the the very least, with many much more serious than fraternizing with xenos.
Overly Serious said:
- Cassia: The Rogue Trader should be spending all free time with me and should not even acknowledge other women's existence. It says so in my book on courtly love. Hell, Cassia probably gives you the 5th degree when you ask Vox Mistress Vigdis if she's heard any rumours!
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True but Cassia can see emotions, it's not impossible for her to come to term with the fact Rogue Trader is not doing anything inappropriate with Yrliet (beyond consorting with xenos, that is but if that's an issue, look at Heinrix)
Overly Serious said:
- Jae: Doesn't believe you're not sleeping with Yrliet because she would.
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I wouldn't put it beyond Jae to break up with Rogue Trader out of disappointment that rogue trader is not doing that. Still, I wouldn't say it's impossible for her to overlook it.
Overly Serious said:
- Marazhai: Doesn't want to get involved with someone who is into all that hippie Craftworld spiritual crap. The equivalent of finding out that your potential partner is deeply into train spotting.
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Here I would say it's Yrliet who would never associate with Rogue Trader who romances Marazhai. Then again, I just can't imagine romancing Marazhai as anything but heretic which means no Yrliet anyway.

There's also matter of Kibellah who absolutely hates xenos but with how much Rogue Trader may influence her, it is possible for her to accept Yrliet.

Speaking of influencing companions, I think one area where game drops the ball is corrupting companions. Lot of missed opportunities.
Male Idiot said:
You will watch ze anti-grav wraithbone train and you vill like it, mon'keigh!
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Now I'll have to listen to german dub of Dawn of War eldar.
 
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The hardest part of following the Aeldari questlines is how they are amug pieces of shit telling me how superior they are when the game goves me a near infinite amount of opportunities to annhilate them in every conversation.

I usually give in to my Heresy/patrotism and say yeah fuck the xenos actually if you wanna nig all over my ship then I'm sure you'll have a fantastic time in the Inquisition/being murdered/ being eaten by dark powers/being executed/betraying me because I killed some other ayynigger. Its like only human's understand that I have a licence to do what I want and the frigate and armsman to back it up.

I kinda like Heinrix being my local spook who can just blackbag any non-approved companion to a life of happiness and friendship in the Inquisition's blacksites.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
The big issue with the depiction of Eldar in art is that it's always rather generic Space Elves. Lore-wise (usually) Eldar would just kickoff every sense of uncanny valley you have into overdrive. It's full on wrong proportions and wrong movement like a Skinwalker.
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A big part of that though is the way they move. And that can't be depicted in static artwork. Imagine even a normal person with normal proportions, but he never blinks, never twitches. When he moves it's unnaturally precise and goes from motionless to Bruce Lee strike, even when performing ordinary motions like picking up a mug to drink. And he stares at you the same way a lizard stares at people. You've removed all the non-verbal human queues of communication. They're there but they're alien and they're so small that the man seems like a robot. When he speaks, he gets your language almost perfectly but there's just something slightly wrong like it's not his own. Even without the alien proportions he is deeply disconcerting, coming across as something unnatural and possibly sociopathic. Eldar are a species that can jump six foot in the air from standing (c.v. Howling Banshees, Harlequinns, etc.). They're like coiled springs. Combined with their weird poise and agility, imagine what they're like to be around. A position that would be uncomfortable for a human to maintain would be nothing to an eldar. According to the lore, Eldar are physiologically closer to reptiles than to mammals.

I'm therefore a bit forgiving of eldar in art. But the artist still needs to understand they're not human. IMO, good and bad depictions of eldar in art:
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Now paying no attention to any other merits or flaws they each have or preferences for style or detail; the first one looks much more unnatural than the second. In a good way. The druchii woman has human face proportions, human body proportions, limb thickness, etc. And height is human as well. The first one, you don't even need the presence of a human next to him to feel that he looks about 8' tall and weird as Hell. Imagine that thing stooping through a door and walking into a room with you. You would be disturbed.

Janusz z Gliwic said:
True but Cassia can see emotions, it's not impossible for her to come to term with the fact Rogue Trader is not doing anything inappropriate with Yrliet (beyond consorting with xenos, that is but if that's an issue, look at Heinrix)
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Cassia has the emotional development of a child. Girls like that get jealous of anything that takes your attention away from them. They'll message you all day long while you're at work simply because they want to make sure you're thinking about them. It's way worse if it's a woman you're spending time with. First you spend half your time convincing Cassia that you are attracted to her even though she's a freakish mutant whose weirdly tall, socially strange and has an extra eye. Then you have to spend half your time convincing her that you're not attracted to Yrliet because Yrliet is weirdly tall, socially strange and has eyes at 45 degree angle. Yeah, you're wildly overestimating the rationality and independence of women like that.

You're also engaging way too seriously with what was intended to be humour!
 
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Overly Serious said:
Then you have to spend half your time convincing her that you're not attracted to Yrliet because Yrliet is weirdly tall, socially strange and has eyes at 45 degree angle. Yeah, you're wildly overestimating the rationality and independence of women like that.
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Never said it would be easy.
Overly Serious said:
You're also engaging way too seriously with what was intended to be humour!
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This statement is true!
 
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Janusz z Gliwic said:
I'm doing Yrliet "romance"
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I aimed at her too at my first playthrough and honestly i couldn't tell you if i did it right or no.
Her shit was so toothless and asexual i couldn't understood if i did or did not hit all the triggers.
Btw is new dlc worth a second playthrough or should i wait for one more?
 
Janusz z Gliwic said:
Void Shadows is pretty damn good, definitely worth a playthrough, and new companion is awesome. Though next DLC will likely come out in spring so you might prefer to wait for it.
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I can not wait. I did my dogmatic run, and to be honest, I had very few companions left when I was done.
So looking forward to it and the DLC.
 
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btw i'm not really in the know of RT system, i picked up some things of course through the playthrough, but still im a bit unsure of what the best build would be for the idea i have.
The first time i just rolled a pyromancer and honestly the rest of my party didn't matter at all outside of casia and her ability to lure enemies and giving me an extra turn
anyway i wanted to make double plasma pistol character, forge world background is a no brainer since it has dirrect damage boost but im not so sure about the class
operator and soldier are obviously best picks but i have no near enough system knowledge to min max the fuck out of it, especially now 6 months after i completed it
 
Janusz z Gliwic said:
I'm doing Yrliet "romance", and I think it shouldn't conflict with rest of romances. If I didn't know it's classed as romance, I'd never consider it as such and would view it only as part of her questline. I disabled jealously in toybox to also see Kibellah's romance, hopefully nothing breaks.
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I love Eldar but this just doesn't sound like it's worth giving a proper romance route up for. And considering how long Owlcat games are it's not like you can just casually do a run to experience it. It just sounds like a trap for elffags really. Joke's on them, I can't help myself when it comes to reading spoilers.
 
Kharash said:
I love Eldar but this just doesn't sound like it's worth giving a proper romance route up for. And considering how long Owlcat games are it's not like you can just casually do a run to experience it. It just sounds like a trap for elffags really. Joke's on them, I can't help myself when it comes to reading spoilers.
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I agree with you, human-craftworlder romance just can't work, that's why I think it shouldn't be handled like it is romance by game.
 
Janusz z Gliwic said:
I imagine you got rid of witch, both xenos and smuggler, was there anyone else you purged?
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That was about if we don't count lesser late companions.
I was thinking of purging the Toaster fucker, but I let him go with the reasoning that my RT was too dumbfounded by mechanacus to understand if the stuff he said was heretical or not.
 
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The Eldars in Rogue Trader are simply retarded. They live and die on your benevolence, because they're unfit to live and every choice they make is kind of stupid. Yrliet deserves to be shot because she can be a cause of Chapter 3 with some of the most retarded writing I've ever have the bad luck of reading.

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I did my dogmatic run, and to be honest, I had very few companions left when I was done.
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You don't need to kill many people in a Dogmatic run. I'd say there are even too many Dogmatic companions compared to other picks.

Jae gotta go because she's a dumb thief and deserves death for her dumb actions
Indira gotta go because she's a retarded unsanctioned psyker and deserves death for her dumb actions
Yrliet gotta go because she's a retarded Eldar and deserves death for her dumb actions
Marazhai sadly gotta go because Dark Eldar, but he was such a comedy central thanks to edgy writing that I was THAT close to keep him

This reminds me the glorious moment in my Dogmatic run when I decided out of nowhere that I did want to help Winterscale out of his Chaos addiction because I found him funny, and thus I got the peace between him and the stupid Eldar to reveal the demon masquerading in his entourage.

And then when we got to attack the Inquisitor Fleet they both come out and help you and my fully Dogmatic Rogue Trader must have felt weird in having a former Chaos pawn and Xenos helping him shoot Inquisitorial assets
 
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