Warhammer 40k

[p1138]

The only benefit of the new way is to make list building slightly easier for new players, and to limit OP combos.

Also speeds people the hell up to avoid this shit

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Also speeds people the hell up to avoid this shit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ImL5DbA55eU

My brother plays Guard, and while funny, this is completely unrealistic. There is no way in hell you'd get through an entire unit of guardsmen in under one minute.

You'd also never give a Sergeant a laspistol, because the bolt pistol is free and literally the exact same profile except it has S4 instead of S3. More likely you'd give him an autogun, which he will shoot separately because one time he rolled it with the lasguns at his FLGS and someone complained that it was a different weapon and should be rolled separately.

 

[p1138]

My brother plays Guard, and while funny, this is completely unrealistic. There is no way in hell you'd get through an entire unit of guardsmen in under one minute.

You'd also never give a Sergeant a laspistol, because the bolt pistol is free and literally the exact same profile except it has S4 instead of S3. More likely you'd give him an autogun, which he will shoot separately because one time he rolled it with the lasguns at his FLGS and someone complained that it was a different weapon and should be rolled separately.

More to the point, other games abstract out that a unit might have 5 different weapons like a real military unit, 40k does not and thus removing some of shit and allowing fast rolls makes the game go much smoother.

I've also run into people trying to proclaim that the red die is for a bolt pistol, the blue die is for a lasgun, the 3 green dice are for bolters, the yellow is is for... oh fuck off.

As far as the guy at the FLGS claiming it needs to be rolled separately, only if there's a difference in the stat line or something else that would actually matter. If the pistols and rifles all have the same strength, AP, and damage and no USRs(or even all the same USRs) at the same range then who cares. Casual pickup games that take 6 hours because your opponent has to slow roll everything, and drags their ass on top of that are probably the most annoying types of games out there.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Autoguns are literally lasguns except they always have 2 attacks instead of needing to be in rapid fire range. I try to tell him he doesn't need to, but he has this annoying habit of every game needing to be practice for the store. He wont play anything on TTS that he doesn't own IRL, not that I could ever convince him to play anymore.

His FLGS has some real characters. While I'm not officially licensed to practice 40k law I can saw that I do try to read the rules pretty carefully. A lot of them make very odd mistakes that I'm shocked I have to explain to people including the store manager. I parked the ass of a Hammerhead behind a ruin and I wasn't allowed cover because apparently you can't just obscure some of a model it has to be most of it. I don't know what part of "fully visible" they don't understand.

Another was in a team game and everyone was deploying "toe in" the ruins anticipating they could shoot outwards without declaring that was their intention. It was on their deployment line so I thought nothing of it, until someone tried to shoot at me and I had to explain to the whole table that you can't shoot from within a ruin unless you're wholly within.

Then there was someone who wanted to argue that being at range does not count as being within range. Apparently 24" is not within 24". It was super petty just to deny my brother from shooting at death guard terminators with a tank.

Then there's the local tranny who most people don't like playing against. My brother fell for his trap card telling him "oh I haven't played in over a year I just want some practice" but then begin rules lawyer the shit out him (incorrectly too). He tried to tell my brother his tank wasn't allowed to move across scatter terrain that was less than 2", and yes he had to fucking measure it. Then he complained that it wasn't fair for someone else to chime in on their game because it was 2v1.

Good news is he's in the process of moving so we will never have to deal with that store again. Bad news is he's moving across the country and now I can't just drive down to visit.

 

[Buckaroo]

I've also run into people trying to proclaim that the red die is for a bolt pistol, the blue die is for a lasgun, the 3 green dice are for bolters, the yellow is is for... oh fuck off.

What's wrong with this? I would do this but make sure to remind my opponent every time before I rolled that the blue dice were plasma and the red were melta.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

What's wrong with this? I would do this but make sure to remind my opponent every time before I rolled that the blue dice were plasma and the red were melta.

If you have one, maybe two special weapons it's fine, but it becomes a lot to keep track of. Especially if you are dealing with multiple keywords like lethal hits or sustained hits, and then remembering that only the red dice are wounding on 3s, the blue are wounding on 4s, and the green on 5s, except 5s have twin linked or some special bullshit to remember on top of that. To the roller I'm sure it all makes sense, but as someone who doesn't know your army it can make it difficult to keep track of what you're doing, and if you're not trying to cheat me.

 

[p1138]

What's wrong with this? I would do this but make sure to remind my opponent every time before I rolled that the blue dice were plasma and the red were melta.

Notice how I mentioned 4? If you've got 1 odd profile from the bunch it's fine, maybe 2. More than that, fuck off it's time consuming and allows for cheating bullshit if your opponent can't keep track of it 2 hours into a game because you're having to do it for 6 different units.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Additionally the detachments in 10th no longer having chapter names associated with them shut up some of the autists that would give people flak for having painted their ultramarines green, or their salamanders red and black because they like fiery colors but didn't use the "successor chapter" bullshit rules and restrictions from something like 9th that just locked you out of shit.

Third edition, as much as I wax nostalgic about it, had this as well. My first chapter was blood angels in part because I wanted a Baal Preditor. ...never could afford one, and they're gone now.

they're sealed in their armor and black ichor leaks from every rivet and seam, but no one knows what they look like inside. (Of course, White Dwarf fucked that up by showing one without a helmet a few months later, but whatever).

What were they revealed to look like?

I don't mean to keep bringing them up, but Legion of the Damned. Started off as a cool ghost story. Somewhere along the way they were just warp touched Fire Hawk remnants. Kinda lame.

The 10th Company is the Prospering Grounds for new recruits who all have Fresh Meat painte on their pauldron.

I assume you mean 1st-10th have the join date colours?

Presenting Brother Jom of the Kiwis Obscurum.
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Born on the Agri-World Faceta Bos Villam IV, the Chapter's recruiting world, he passed the recruitment trials, culminating in voxbooking an Agent of the Inquisition and was so permitted to join, after which he slowly worked his way up through the ranks through cunning and indomitable stubbornness.

A fairly quick and dirty job for now, on the first Marine I've ever painted. I stayed fairly close to your Impcat mockup, just to try out the scheme; I think it worked out decently enough that it might be worth expanding to the rest of a Kill Team at some point.

Should be featured.

The games a massive waste of potential, and from the leaks I've seen Horde mode won't be much different.

I might be retarded, but I thought horde mode was a fan made ruleset for coop games?

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

I might be retarded, but I thought horde mode was a fan made ruleset for coop games?

We're talking the planned horde survival mode in the Space Marine II video game, not the tabletop.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

I assume you mean 1st-10th have the join date colours?

I don't but that's a good idea too. I was referring to the title of each company, and the general theme behind it. Each company could be a reference to some board or at least something from the site. I thought prospering grounds fit perfectly for the new recruits.

 

[Snekposter]

I assume you mean 1st-10th have the join date colours?

If we're going by that, what Company would I wind up in? I hope its a good one.

 

[Pedophobe]

I've also run into people trying to proclaim that the red die is for a bolt pistol, the blue die is for a lasgun, the 3 green dice are for bolters, the yellow is is for... oh fuck off.

That's how we always played it before 8th edition. It worked really well.

 

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What were they revealed to look like?

Warband Colours​

The Cleaved wear pale, flesh-coloured power armour that seems to have a strange, oil-like substance constantly oozing from the joints of the armour like black blood. What remains of the Chaos Space Marines within their sealed armour, or how they have been mutated to release such a discharge, none can say.





Random black dude.

 

[Mr Clark]

Red die = this gun, blue = that gun works really well...if you make a few flashcards. Hell flashcards for proxying would make heaps of sense too. Just write what they are and you can roll once. People get mad because its not clear to them (not their army, first time facing it) and they think its shenanigans. Flashcards with info for your opponent goes a long way.

Onto what I was gonna ask, but Emperors Children. How likely is it they will receive a christmas box? Between the Champions of Slaanesh box and the combat patrol, theres an amazingly strong selection of troops for an army. Its really just missing Fulgrim, Lucius, Kakophonists and a couple of Rhinos. Maybe not meta but its a pretty balanced set up imo.

 

[HistrionicBitch]

Red die = this gun, blue = that gun works really well...if you make a few flashcards. Hell flashcards for proxying would make heaps of sense too. Just write what they are and you can roll once. People get mad because its not clear to them (not their army, first time facing it) and they think its shenanigans. Flashcards with info for your opponent goes a long way.

When I "proxy" a unit, I tend to just gimp their weapon loadout a bit to make it more digestible. For example, I use these guys as Navy Breachers in my Imperial Agents lists, and they have one guy who is WYSIWYG with a meltagun, and the one dude with the demolition charge is the guy with the banner. Everyone else has "gun" and "stabby" for all intents and purposes.

 

[Rick The Stick]

I might be retarded, but I thought horde mode was a fan made ruleset for coop games?

Maybe I'm retarded because I don't understand what you mean. Also I thought the Fire Hawks were still just a theory. Hasn't the Legion of The Damned had sightings from before the Fire Hawks were even a thing?

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Maybe I'm retarded because I don't understand what you mean. Also I thought the Fire Hawks were still just a theory. Hasn't the Legion of The Damned had sightings from before the Fire Hawks were even a thing?

The Emperor's will is not bound by petty things like time and neither is the lore.

 

[p1138]

Maybe I'm retarded because I don't understand what you mean. Also I thought the Fire Hawks were still just a theory. Hasn't the Legion of The Damned had sightings from before the Fire Hawks were even a thing?

I've never played it, doesn't seem interesting but it had a weird amount of hype floating around because I guess people simply forgot that if you and a friend agree to play with an alternate mission or even ruleset you can just do that.

 

[Rick The Stick]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eSosFHnNs9k
I've never played it, doesn't seem interesting but it had a weird amount of hype floating around because I guess people simply forgot that if you and a friend agree to play with an alternate mission or even ruleset you can just do that.

Oh, OK. Tabletop is what @Judge Dredd was talkin about. My horde mode was in reference to the space marine game. And I agree though, that doesn't seem particularly interesting.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Couple of big hobby fuck ups the last few days.

Wanted to try speedpaint/contrast paint.

First I wanted a white satin spray to go with my matt grey primer for a zenathol highlight. Had none in stock locally, and I didn't want to pay the GW tax. All they had was enamel spray for radiators. Hobby friend who was with me said it would work just fine as it's all basically the same.

I don't like it. It seems to form a hard plastic shell, leaves details but likes to glob between islands (like a gun held across the chest, it will connect the two as it dries?) and it takes an age to dry. As in, primer is touch dry in less than an hour. This was still tacky to the touch 12 hours later.

Next fuck up was the speedpaint. I had two test models. A space marine, and a third party guardsman. When it worked, it was incredible. The space marines arms looked fantastic, and one paldron I applied the paint, blow on it, and it formed a perfect shade over the curve. 10/10 would win a golden demon in my imagination.

The rest of the model was a mess. Visible brush strokes, pooling and blobbing everywhere, and removing or moving said pools resulted in more visible brush lines. Maybe I was using it too thick (everything online says to use speed/contrast paints neat from the bottle), as these splotches and brush marks overpower any benefit from zenithal. Another problem was, while the recesses looked good at times, the "highlights" often looked like white with a mild stain where paint has slid off. Watering the paint down even slightly results in this being even worse. Multiple coats results in the blobing and visible brush marks issue.


I'm clearing fucking up, but with so many variables, I'm not sure where.

Tabletop is what @Judge Dredd was talkin about.

Yeah. I was being retarded. Sorry.

I've never played it, doesn't seem interesting but it had a weird amount of hype floating around

I think it was, in part, because it was made by YouTubers podcasters. And it isn't some thrown together "survive endless waves for VP" type house rules (there was a mission type like that I've never seen played). But instead it took inspiration from co-op board games and horde mode video games with secret objectives and off map supports.