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No cap, Why do right wingers like this setting? Especially since the setting shits on things like Organized Religion, Militarism, and Hero Worship. I'm not trying to judge but just wondering
I'd say because organised religion, insane militarism & the actions of heroes have kept the Imperium afloat for 10,000 years in the settings.

Hell, even before they started worshipping the Emperor the Imperium was ultra militarised, led by demigod heroes and basically had a cult of non-religion that was enforced at all levels because of the shit went down in the Age of Strife. We see numerous examples in the books of what happens when the Imperium encounters more "reasonable" Human cultures: they curbstomp them fairly easily. Despite it starting off as satire the Imperium is the best chance Humanity has at surviving whether the creators at GW intended that or not.
 
GW is still one of the few hobby makers that I actually respect because they don't cater to these insane people. Their recruiting of Cavil as an exec was the nail in the coffin of their cause because they knew then he despises them above most but is very controlled about it.
By and large my only issues with GW are just some of their general business practices. Prices can be a bit ridiculous. I'm not terribly happy that some kits cannot be found outside of big expensive sets that I dont want the majority of, have issues being in stock, or have otherwise been cycled out(sometimes despite being relatively new kits)

but if my only complaints are "I want thing and this fucking company makes it difficult for me to give them my money" I'd say they are one of the better ones, especially in this day and age of everything needing to be pozzed to hell.
 
By and large my only issues with GW are just some of their general business practices. Prices can be a bit ridiculous. I'm not terribly happy that some kits cannot be found outside of big expensive sets that I dont want the majority of, have issues being in stock, or have otherwise been cycled out(sometimes despite being relatively new kits)

but if my only complaints are "I want thing and this fucking company makes it difficult for me to give them my money" I'd say they are one of the better ones, especially in this day and age of everything needing to be pozzed to hell.
Plus they clearly arent against having some cheese cake in their franchise, be it official stuff or 3rd party that they dont seem to have much beef witj.
 

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned before but I’ve found this channel interviewing the old designers about the development of warhammer. They have an episode talking to John blanch, another on epic games.
This one is for fantasy battles but right near the end he mentions warhammer historical battles, I’d never heard of that system before, any of y’all know about it?
They had a historical battles imprint, kinda like a subsidiary or specialist division up until about 10 years ago. They did stuff like bronze age stuff and other historical types of battles. The miniatures lines were really limited and hard to find especially in the US. I think it wasn't profitable because there was no IP they could take advantage of and the historical wargames market is very niche with enough competition. Old grognards who play those kind of games don't fuss about the quality of their miniatures for the most part.
 
GW is still one of the few hobby makers that I actually respect because they don't cater to these insane people. Their recruiting of Cavil as an exec was the nail in the coffin of their cause because they knew then he despises them above most but is very controlled about it.

The failing of stuff like the LOTR series too gives me some optimism because of how careful GW is about their trademark. Plus a lot of the books are not too bad either going to grab Leviathon and the Lion book for my trip I think.

I just want cape Tyranid, that thing is magnificent. My army desires it.
When I first heard they gave Deathleaper a cape, I was disgusted and confused. When I actually saw it, I was even more confused, because against all odds, it works brilliantly. It's basically the lower torso of a vampire squid, which looks like a completely natural adornment to me, since Tyranids are closer to crustaceans and cephalopods than insects.
 
When I first heard they gave Deathleaper a cape, I was disgusted and confused. When I actually saw it, I was even more confused, because against all odds, it works brilliantly. It's basically the lower torso of a vampire squid, which looks like a completely natural adornment to me, since Tyranids are closer to crustaceans and cephalopods than insects.
I've been generally really impressed with all the new Nid minis, to be honest. Whoever they had in charge of the designs knocked it out of the park. The psychophage alone convinced me to finally start the Tyranid army I've been wanting to do since I got into the hobby.
 
GW is still one of the few hobby makers that I actually respect because they don't cater to these insane people.

GW isn't a company worthy of being respected since the .... mid 80ies. The more I read about them the more I was stunned how their anti-consumer practices were already up 40 years ago. The fact that up until the mid 2000 they still had some people inside that cared barely saves some pieces of their business. If you consider them positive because they're not woke, they aren't woke because there isn't money to be extracted from tranny Space Marines... yet. GW cares only about money and extracting money, and it has been so for the longest time, they will fuck over fans and hobbyists at the first chance, engage in straight manipulative behavior, rewrite rules to extract more money and that's it. They're essentially a consumerist company that copies the copy of a copy of 80ies British comics and aggressively defends its IP.

The instant "woke" becomes really worthwhile economically (and that requires iron proof, because the GW suits are utterly obtuse) they'll jump on it in an instant. Do not mistake your engagement for the setting and how you perceive it with GW's practices, they're soulless IP vampires.

he mentions warhammer historical battles, I’d never heard of that system before, any of y’all know about it?

I remember and I played it. It was.... adequate, think of a Warhammer Fantasy Battle with no magic and no heroes, they even did an attempt at a WW1 expansion. Imagine all the rules you had for WFB for pikes an' shit, now more developed for heavy/light infantry and skirmishers. It wasn't that good, but again, the basic ruleset of WFB wasn't that good either. It died because, surprise, it didn't bring enough money in and you could not force people to play only with GW APPROVED models.

A bunch of people from WHB went out and started Warlord Games, that tried the GW approach on historicals with Black Powder, Hail Caesar and Bolt Action. Unsurprisingly Bolt Action was the most successful (WW2) and it's essentially Third Edition 40k with no heroes and weirdo activation rules, and meme rules. They did have pre-eminence on the market for a while thanks to their aggressive GW model, but that's weakening and the rules are mediocre. They also re-invested the money on buying and developing a shitton of "specialist games" that range from mediocre (Blood Red Skies) to hilariously bad (Cruel Seas) to "JEEZ WE MADE WARHAMMER LETS MAKE MORE SCIFI OUR IDEAS ARE GREAT" (Gates of Antares, no one plays it, guess why).
 
GW is still one of the few hobby makers that I actually respect because they don't cater to these insane people. Their recruiting of Cavil as an exec was the nail in the coffin of their cause because they knew then he despises them above most but is very controlled about it.

The failing of stuff like the LOTR series too gives me some optimism because of how careful GW is about their trademark. Plus a lot of the books are not too bad either going to grab Leviathon and the Lion book for my trip I think.

I just want cape Tyranid, that thing is magnificent. My army desires it.
I'm skeptical. They put out that homosexual reddit tier statement about no heckin' fascists allowed in my heckin' warhammerino statement and their push for diversity

So far it hasn't been that bad but I've seen this slippery slope pan out before many times, it starts out slow then ramps up. Give it 4 or 5 more years and you'll see Ghazghkull screaming trans rights. People like Henry Cavil can only do so much against the Slaanesh pozload

On a lighter note this just came across my feed
Gork and Mork would be proud
 
So Legions Imperialis is up for pre-orders this weekend is anyone buying in? I’m thinking about Word Bearers (if they release daemons) or a Iron hands tank company.
 
GW is weirdly very greedy and yet wise enough not to disenfranchise the whales with too much troonjuice.

As to Admech, they used to have the "it" pronoun that machines use before it was cool. Because you know, machines don't have sex, and thus it is a thing to be discarded.
 
They weren't always like that, there was a time when they provided ideas for making scenery and battleground cutouts for free. Ways to make your own setting embellishments. It'd be sad if it weren't just the way of things.
 
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They just can't stop fucking me in the ass can they

Expected price is the usual so 160$/125EU for 270 pts

The box has nothing against vehicles or high toughness targets and combat patrol rules wise you are supposed to run Sterylizors, in case you have never read Admech datasheets Sterylizors are shit and they have always been shit the other version of the Pteraxii kit the Skystalker being just barely usable with their "ride the thermals" rule, the only thing Sterylizors have is that they slow units down with their flamers so you can move them to be within 12" shoot with them once (possibly slow down one unit ) and expect them to die next turn because it's a T4 SV4+ ISV5+ W2 model

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Run some ironstriders instead, pteraxii aren't intended to go after vehicles in the first place. They're very specialized deep strike units and ironstriders will give you far more bang for your buck. Use the lascannon ones and just have them hide in the back of the map for most of the game sniping vehicles etc and you can't go wrong.

It's the usual GW shit where you need to spend more money to get what you actually need.
 
Run some ironstriders instead, pteraxii aren't intended to go after vehicles in the first place. They're very specialized deep strike units and ironstriders will give you far more bang for your buck. Use the lascannon ones and just have them hide in the back of the map for most of the game sniping vehicles etc and you can't go wrong.

It's the usual GW shit where you need to spend more money to get what you actually need.
You are missing my point, I am fully aware that pteraxii are not meant to go after vehicles, my whole complaint was that using the box to play the actual combat patrol mode you have nothing against high toughness units.

also while ironstriders are cool I would rather not pay point per dollar on a model
 
I'm skeptical. They put out that homosexual reddit tier statement about no heckin' fascists allowed in my heckin' warhammerino statement and their push for diversity

So far it hasn't been that bad but I've seen this slippery slope pan out before many times, it starts out slow then ramps up. Give it 4 or 5 more years and you'll see Ghazghkull screaming trans rights. People like Henry Cavil can only do so much against the Slaanesh pozload

On a lighter note this just came across my feed
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fpSw3gwdF5cGork and Mork would be proud
I've been listening to Arch bitching about 40K turning sjw for the last 8 years. If it didn't happen by now, it probably will never happen. Especially with Battletech and White Wolf going into massive controversy for no apperant gain.
 
You are missing my point, I am fully aware that pteraxii are not meant to go after vehicles, my whole complaint was that using the box to play the actual combat patrol mode you have nothing against high toughness units.

also while ironstriders are cool I would rather not pay point per dollar on a model
Fair. At least these days you can get away with 3D printing most of your shit if you own a printer.
 
I've been listening to Arch bitching about 40K turning sjw for the last 8 years. If it didn't happen by now, it probably will never happen. Especially with Battletech and White Wolf going into massive controversy for no apperant gain.

Gw did go a bit more woke, less edgy. But it is GW, and they did their least effort as usual.

So they draw a black chick and slapped her on some book cover, and that was that.

Gw knows exactly how to milk a playerbase for as little effort as they can, and the sjws set their foot there, expecting exclusive treatment with all the bells and whistles, getting instead the famed GW (anti)customer service of "Look, we did our best. That will be 500 dollars".
 
Gw did go a bit more woke, less edgy. But it is GW, and they did their least effort as usual.

So they draw a black chick and slapped her on some book cover, and that was that.

Gw knows exactly how to milk a playerbase for as little effort as they can, and the sjws set their foot there, expecting exclusive treatment with all the bells and whistles, getting instead the famed GW (anti)customer service of "Look, we did our best. That will be 500 dollars".
A big issue is that the whole sjw inclusion hinges on very clear good vs. bad moral divide, but it's ridiculous, up to being a self parody, in morally grey settings (like equating Vampires - soulless narcissistic self serving monsters to faggots). And the inclusion is especially hard when the morons wanting it already decided the Imperium are the bad guys, but no one buys any book of the other human like races, besides maybe the Necrons, so there is nowhere to put it anyways.
 
Luckily 40k has no good guys for the SJWs to latch onto. The Imperium they abhor, and they can't doll Chaos up enough to make them the good boys.

Orks are too manly, Eldar are too white and aryan, Tau are too "eeew icky anime and no tits!" , Tyranids aren't a good guy candidate either, as they don't let hormagaunts choose their sex. Necrons are also too colonial and superior.

Slaanesh was prophetically too on the nose for them.
 
I've been listening to Arch bitching about 40K turning sjw for the last 8 years. If it didn't happen by now, it probably will never happen. Especially with Battletech and White Wolf going into massive controversy for no apperant gain.
Fair point. I apologize for my autistic doom posting, I think I'm just left bitter after what happened to Starwars and other stuff I enjoyed. But with Henry Cavil onboard it does give me more hope, he seems like someone who actually gives a shit about the universes he works on.

Now if we could just get a Ork show or movie at some point I'd be happy
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