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Male Idiot said:
I am implying people have shit tastes and that most of it shieeet, but I generally am least favouring Abnett and ABD.

Abnett is a literary Rian Johnson who will fuck up a story and lore like a certified Disney employee.

He can write the purplest prose ever, it doesn't excuse his Holdo manoevers, as the HH isn't some meaningless side story where he can dick around.
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Abnett started excellent, but either age or hype ruined his writing over the last decade. Ironically he isn't inflicted with TDS and modern politics as I expected in his last books.
 
Abnett did start out fine.

But he got sloppy or his head got too big.

Eisenhorn was great. Gaunt had a few errors, mostly him slaughtering chaos marines like grots. When Eisenhorn was freaked out by a single one.

He definately Filoni-d as of late.

I liked some 40k books but don't remember the names. I did admire Peter Fehervari's take on the Tau.
 
I think the real problem with the Ynnari is that their goal involves fully empowering Ynnead to kill Slaanesh, which would free the entire Eldar race from worrying about getting their souls eaten and allow them to start rebuilding their empire. Either of those would be a lore-altering "big moment" along the lines of the Emperor finally getting off the Throne or Ghazghkull getting supercharged into a Krork and unleashing a WAAAGH that puts even the Beast to shame. Given GW's usual pace when it comes to storytelling and releases, it would take several years and probably a few editions of the game to fully unpack all the consequences that come with permakilling a Chaos god and bringing back a member of the Eldar pantheon. Even then, that would rely on GW not just dropping the whole thing halfway through like they've done with other "big moments", e.g. the Psychic Awakening or Szarekh's return.
 
Male Idiot said:
Sounds like the current tacky BL storytelling all right.

Same that I heard about the *soyscreams* Dan Abnett and the end of the HH, where Sanguinius is barely in the book and Horus just wails on him until he dies, and reintroducing the Star Child theory because Abnett is a mongoloid retard, and that the Emperor cast out his goodness before the fight zo make Starchild, not in the fight after Horus ganked him.

Did I mention yet that Abnett is an overvalued retard hack of a writer who makes soyboys soy into their pants?
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The real victim of GW's lack of a content wizard are the Harlequins. They lost their faction status, were clumped along in the craftworlds codex, had their whole masques background and formations bleached and recycled, and worst of all took a humongous invulnerable save nerf. All of the aforementioned didn't happen at once, it happened gradually throughout 10 edition rollout, so it leads me to believe a butt-hurt faggot was promoted to playtesting and made it his vendetta to screw with the clowns.
 
augment said:
The real victim of GW's lack of a content wizard are the Harlequins. They lost their faction status, were clumped along in the craftworlds codex, had their whole masques background and formations bleached and recycled, and worst of all took a humongous invulnerable save nerf. All of the aforementioned didn't happen at once, it happened gradually throughout 10 edition rollout, so it leads me to believe a butt-hurt faggot was promoted to playtesting and made it his vendetta to screw with the clowns.
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I always thought they were a weird fit for 40k until I 3d printed their kill team and started looking at their lore. They are generally really fun and bridge the divide between Eldar and Drukari where you get insane sadism but from a more likeable vessel. Their weaponry is some of the most creative and savage in the universe imo.
 
Second Missing Primarch said:
Given GW's usual pace when it comes to storytelling and releases, it would take several years and probably a few editions of the game to fully unpack all the consequences that come with permakilling a Chaos god and bringing back a member of the Eldar pantheon
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Bro, half of us will be in an retirement home once that happens
 
To everyone bemoaning the glacial pace of lore developments in 40k, I have a few choice words for you about what happens when GeeDubs decides to shake things up:
Warhammer Fantasy- The End Times
 
ForTheHoard said:
I always thought they were a weird fit for 40k until I 3d printed their kill team and started looking at their lore. They are generally really fun and bridge the divide between Eldar and Drukari where you get insane sadism but from a more likeable vessel. Their weaponry is some of the most creative and savage in the universe imo.
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"I used to think this galaxy was a tragedy. But now I've realized its a comedy."
"You're laughing. You just gunned down two squads of Guardsmen and you're laughing. You think that's funny?" "I do. And I'm tired of pretending its not."
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They have an awesome sense of style, too.
 
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Male Idiot said:
Sounds like the current tacky BL storytelling all right.

Same that I heard about the *soyscreams* Dan Abnett and the end of the HH, where Sanguinius is barely in the book and Horus just wails on him until he dies, and reintroducing the Star Child theory because Abnett is a mongoloid retard, and that the Emperor cast out his goodness before the fight zo make Starchild, not in the fight after Horus ganked him.

Did I mention yet that Abnett is an overvalued retard hack of a writer who makes soyboys soy into their pants?

Guy makes more plotholes than fucking Chris Chan for Sonichu's sake.
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Abnett is easily the best that BL has. ADB is a twat, and Graham McNeill no longer writes for them last I heard. Eisenhorn and Ravenor are some of the best books in all of 40k lore.
 
Took a long while for people to see how GW fumbled the lore on 9th. Between the Ynnari, all those Psychic Awakening books and the whole hyping up of the Pariah Nexus. All of it to be pissed down in favor of a 3rd Tyrannic War reskin and a re-release of a nerfed Squats faction.
 
So I dont know if im late. But I was reading a rumor article that said the reason the 40 tv series has not been promoted much now, is because some dumbass at GW signed away all the profit to amazon. So now they dont want to make it anymore.

How true do you think that is?
 
Fatboi Gus said:
"Surely grognards won't mind if we kill everyone and invalidate their models just to sell a new line created wholly for intellectual property reasons!"

I'm still completely baffled GW suits thought this would be a good idea.
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It kinda worked though. Thing is Fantasy was dead anyways, better off killing it in a blaze of glory and revenue than just discontinuing it for good. And AoS was popular enough to be a good alternative to 40k.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It kinda worked though. Thing is Fantasy was dead anyways, better off killing it in a blaze of glory and revenue than just discontinuing it for good. And AoS was popular enough to be a good alternative to 40k.
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Fantasy was so dead that the player base was able to organize literal tournaments, including a WTC, using their homebrew 9th edition (9th Age), and several small mini prodycers created product exclusively for that base.

Dead AF.
 
Fatboi Gus said:
Fantasy was so dead that the player base was able to organize literal tournaments, including a WTC, using their homebrew 9th edition (9th Age), and several small mini prodycers created product exclusively for that base.

Dead AF.
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Having an existing fanbase doesn't matter to GW if the sales trickle down to the point there is no logic in supporting it. Plus the setting itself was fucked that it was limited in time period due to the humans needing to not die from old age.
 
Fantasy didn't sell and the very nature of the ruleset meant it was difficult to get in for new players. I do not think GW gave a shit about pricing people out of the hobby, but the number of miniatures and the tradition of the square unit ruleset did have an impact on the bottom line and GW only cares about the money. So the setting was burnt with the most effort given to extract money with expensive models and rulebooks that got invalidated as fast as they could.

AoS is a shit setting and a terrible ruleset, but it works far better as an introductory system for new blood. Its launch was an unmitigated disaster but it still managed to crawl back and outsell Fantasy, and the Old World thing they're putting up seems to be such an afterthought (and after the Total Warhammer craze died down) that I doubt much will come out of it.

One thing for oldass grognards is that GW's rulesets are fascinating in how bad they are. I've started playing in 3rd edition 40k, and the game still resembled a tabletop wargame in some way, it was somewhat comparable to historical or other rulesets despite having clear limits. The contemporary rulesets are so incestuous (ignoring 30+ years of development in other tabletop rulesets) and have gone through so many weird mutations that I find difficult to believe they have game designers behind it at all.
 
Michael Wade said:
So I dont know if im late. But I was reading a rumor article that said the reason the 40 tv series has not been promoted much now, is because some dumbass at GW signed away all the profit to amazon. So now they dont want to make it anymore.

How true do you think that is?
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Im starting to think the reason why GW hasn't gone full woke is because of sheer incompetence. Lord knows there are actors pushing for it within the company, but every time they start to make progress towards their goal, some idiot from another department unintentionally fucks things up and their back at square 1.
 
The entire ruleset changes throughout the tabletop from the original up to today feels like a massively bloated live-service game. All the later iterations/patches have deviated from the original and you often have to wonder how it even works, kinda like vidya spaghetti code.
vern said:
Im starting to think the reason why GW hasn't gone full woke is because of sheer incompetence. Lord knows there are actors pushing for it within the company, but every time they start to make progress towards their goal, some idiot from another department unintentionally fucks things up and their back at square 1.
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Its a blessing in disguise.
 
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