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40k's GW is greedy. That's why they are canning old time space marines. To make people buy new armies and prevent the use of old stuff. It is a bad slippery slope for lore, and imagine, Howling Banshees will be replaced by... Leeping Leoparts in a few years, than in another few those will be replaced by Stabby Sturgons, all misspelled.

This is also why codexes tend to be "balanced" in the GW way, with the new faction always being broken like the soysquats.... Votans.
 
Male Idiot said:
40k's GW is greedy. That's why they are canning old time space marines. To make people buy new armies and prevent the use of old stuff. It is a bad slippery slope for lore, and imagine,
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I just assumed that was common knowledge? Hobby's expensive enough, as it is. The "lore" is stagnant until they wanted to release an new Gundam knockoff from the Tau or an new Nid subspecies.

I think the Primaris are just an excuse to force you to buy an handful of the named characters that you've already painted
 
NerdShamer said:
I just assumed that was common knowledge? Hobby's expensive enough, as it is. The "lore" is stagnant until they wanted to release an new Gundam knockoff from the Tau or an new Nid subspecies.

I think the Primaris are just an excuse to force you to buy an handful of the named characters that you've already painted
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Kinda shame GW doesnt take more, risky or I guess more event type stuff to get things moving in lore wise. Which is odd, since they did in the past and the Leviathin box kinda gave an impression to get more such events.

As fo Primaris shit, man that could have worked really good if they just did a small blurb of how at some point in the past Papa Smurf met the toaster lover and asked him to start this project of better version of Space Marines.
 
The tired cat said:
Kinda shame GW doesnt take more, risky or I guess more event type stuff to get things moving in lore wise.
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I thought they occasionally used the results of an tournament to set the course for an random war or two?


The tired cat said:
As fo Primaris shit, man that could have worked really good if they just did a small blurb of how at some point in the past Papa Smurf met the toaster lover and asked him to start this project of better version of Space Marines.
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But as far as I can tell, they initially didn't have much of an plan for 40k beyond "this is how the Horus Heresy happened, the galaxy is fucked. Now go have an beer."
 
NerdShamer said:
I thought they occasionally used the results of an tournament to set the course for an random war or two?
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Oh ye, I just dunno if they still do it or not. Just, wish they did somethin with other factions, heck Yarrik gettin krumped would have been a cool set up for Orks vs World Eaters, as Ghaz tries to trackdown Angron.
NerdShamer said:
But as far as I can tell, they initially didn't have much of an plan for 40k beyond "this is how the Horus Heresy happened, the galaxy is fucked. Now go have an beer."
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Honestly, its hard to tell. It seems they had some ideas, but due to constant re-works or re-writes, shit was gettin fucked. Heck, at one point the Tau was supposed to be a good guy faction, an that got changed due to fan complaints about it.
 
The tired cat said:
Because people with families surely cannot buy this stuff
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I'm sorry you took the incel comment personally.

@LORD IMPERATOR What I meant by the television comment was that a lot of kids shows in that era didn't start out as a story someone wanted to tell. Hasbro or whatever toy company would come up with some random line of toys and writers would be hired to build a show around it for the sole purpose of shilling the toys. Occasionally they would get lucky and produce a really entertaining show, but the driving factor was always toy sales.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
40K should belong to the fans. If anything, because the fans actually give more of a shit about the 40K lore and setting than Games Workshop does. The fans are the ones making outreaches, trying to reach out to fans of other sci-fi like Star Wars, preserving and passing down the lore through countless videos, the fans have shown a care for the 40K lore that Games Workshop doesn't give a flying shit about.
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This never happens, for multiple reasons:
1. Every fan will have his own retarded version of how to proceed, so no one will agree on anything.
2. Only die hard fans and trannies on welfare will have the time and motivation to invest in it. Leading to either "this obscure lore from 20 years ago dictates everything" or "the imperium sucks the girldick".
LORD IMPERATOR said:
The fact that TTS and many fanmade 40K stuff far outpaces most of the media GW comes out with, sans the video games, goes to show that the fans care more about 40K than GW
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TTS went down the drain in the last episodes. Plus the issue of everyone advancing the timeline will mean that the universe will end in few years.

Plus the whole issue is pointless. GW already allows fans to use the IP more than virtually any corpo, and there are a lot of games that are inspired by the universe.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
TTS went down the drain in the last episodes. Plus the issue of everyone advancing the timeline will mean that the universe will end in few years.
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Id say TTS started sinking prior to that, when they had a switch from "Hahah..40k universe silly" to trying and tell a serious story. Ironically, the latter is what made em nuke the series, since they couldnt go back to comedy as their fans wouldnt accept it.
 
The tired cat said:
Id say TTS started sinking prior to that, when they had a switch from "Hahah..40k universe silly" to trying and tell a serious story. Ironically, the latter is what made em nuke the series, since they couldnt go back to comedy as their fans wouldnt accept it.
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I think that's why I liked the Catachan episode so much. Yeah, it had some their okay-at-best story stuff to it, but it was predominantly focused on the absurdity of the planet and its inhabitants like the early episodes.
 
StevieLasVegas said:
I think that's why I liked the Catachan episode so much. Yeah, it had some their okay-at-best story stuff to it, but it was predominantly focused on the absurdity of the planet and its inhabitants like the early episodes.
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I think what really soured my view on the TTS guys, they never wanted to openly admit why they nuked the project and instead pulled a "Mean ol'GW gonna sue us, we cannot afford a lawyer, sorry guys" and their fans bought into it.

An then one of the guys, accidently let it slip during a stream is how they didnt like the series becoming more serious and they couldnt really backpedall as they would lose that sweet Patreon cash.
 
The tired cat said:
I think what really soured my view on the TTS guys, they never wanted to openly admit why they nuked the project and instead pulled a "Mean ol'GW gonna sue us, we cannot afford a lawyer, sorry guys" and their fans bought into it.

An then one of the guys, accidently let it slip during a stream is how they didnt like the series becoming more serious and they couldnt really backpedall as they would lose that sweet Patreon cash.
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Even beforehand I started getting sick of it because, like abridged shows of the time, it got brainrot from Steven Universe and started including musicals and EVERYONE SCREAMING ALL THE TIME.

The whole GW supposedly tightening the noose around IP resulted in a lot of content creators basically entering a hugbox of "I can't do X I promised because my YouTube will be in peril", like Arch did.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Even beforehand I started getting sick of it because, like abridged shows of the time, it got brainrot from Steven Universe and started including musicals and EVERYONE SCREAMING ALL THE TIME.

The whole GW supposedly tightening the noose around IP resulted in a lot of content creators basically entering a hugbox of "I can't do X I promised because my YouTube will be in peril", like Arch did.
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What's ironic, after they tanked TTS these guys started a whole thing with Hunter the Reckoning, which was doing SO bad that in their desperation they pulled out NOT!Kitten and NOT!Emperor, just in hopes getting some of the old audience back.

The hilarious part about that hugbox, is that they really didn't have any proof and when other Warhammer content makers weren't even touched by GW, these fuckers looked like even bigger wankers.
 
The tired cat said:
What's ironic, after they tanked TTS these guys started a whole thing with Hunter the Reckoning, which was doing SO bad that in their desperation they pulled out NOT!Kitten and NOT!Emperor, just in hopes getting some of the old audience back.

The hilarious part about that hugbox, is that they really didn't have any proof and when other Warhammer content makers weren't even touched by GW, these fuckers looked like even bigger wankers.
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Looking at the stats, it's not that bad, though still around 1/4 of what they got from TTS. Issue is that Vampire is pozzed as shit and doesn't really have as interesting world building unless you go with the insanity of the later series. And while you can have fun character interaction, it's all just a copy of the original TTS cast
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Looking at the stats, it's not that bad, though still around 1/4 of what they got from TTS. Issue is that Vampire is pozzed as shit and doesn't really have as interesting world building unless you go with the insanity of the later series. And while you can have fun character interaction, it's all just a copy of the original TTS cast
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Choosing Hunter the Reckoning has always been a peculiar decision. 'Cause, that game came out at a sort off tailgate of WoD, where White Wolf was scrambling around to get any interest as they were quickly sinking due to sever funding issues, so they dished out Hunter which felt like it only went through 2 drafts, Mummy (which nobody gave a shit about) and I wanna say Wraith.
 
The tired cat said:
Choosing Hunter the Reckoning has always been a peculiar decision. 'Cause, that game came out at a sort off tailgate of WoD, where White Wolf was scrambling around to get any interest as they were quickly sinking due to sever funding issues, so they dished out Hunter which felt like it only went through 2 drafts, Mummy (which nobody gave a shit about) and I wanna say Wraith.
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I don't know if it's even Hunter, or just using it as a device for talking about vampires/werewolves without the protagonists being monsters. Issue is that it's really fucking hard to talk about the different clans, and after that you just fall on politicking.
 
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