Warhammer 40k

[p1138]

There's a tranny in the book Iron and Bone by James Swallow.

Okay, aaaand, this book is like 2 years old. Sooo..A. Who gives a shit and B.No seriously, it's 2 years old, why does anyone care?

So basically, it's a 2 year old book no one bothered to read at the time it was released and only decided now to give a shit? Because that's what I'm getting from this. Yes, GW like most tabletop game companies(D&D, MtG, Pathfinder, etc) have been under the creative control of lefties for decades. Apparently that's still somehow in dispute in this thread where people can't cope with the fact that their beloved grimderp universe was originally written as a mockery of what people on the left assumed that people on the right wanted. All the did originally was continue to ape Tolkien like most fantasy authors do, except they stuck the elves/dwarves/orcs/bullshit in space and labeled it sci-fi while proceeding to spend the next 30 years backfilling all of the lore.

 

[Gorby-Chan]

Third one mostly done, got a grot gogg to round out the unit

 

[Humble Architect]

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You are the only productive one, congrats, take your W, a nice calm in a sea of denial, doomsaying and schizophrenia.

 

[NerdShamer]

Morons who think 40K is based never looked at its history and the meanings behind its lore

The handful of space marine novels that I've read feels like an bunch of manchildren having the occasional frat party in between running gay ops. The lore is kind of repetitive, for the most part. And it's kind of funny how someone who's 300 years didn't develop an sense of empathy or humor

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

Paul Scott Caravan (an MTG/40k artist) tells 'people' to string up wives and mothers of the critics. Gee I hope his family knows what kind of monster he is it sounds like he's a hateful person.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Kind of. It was somewhat based as the old lore was retconned when it solidified. I guess they are going to retcon it again. It was a proper and not false interpretation of the 3-7th editions. 1st edition was so different it was like a different universe all together.

Not really. The Imperium was still a decadent pile of shit that was based on every Black Legend lie about Medieval Europe and the Inquisition; it's just that a lot of people who read these works from the Imperium characters' POV didn't realize the satire was attacking them. It's like how the Starship Troopers movie was supposed to satirize fascism, but most people didn't get the point since all they saw was a functional military state that promoted based on merit and eliminated all traces of sexism.

They were just that bad at satire that many fans didn't see it and just saw the Imperium as justified. It's like with Rorschach and Watchmen where the average normie likes the guy even though author Alan Moore designed him to be a negative stereotype of every right-wing superhero in comics.

GW had like one store at that time as well in their bumfuckville in Bongland.

It's called bong-land for a reason. They're all stoned out.

The original satire did not sell. That's why it was retconned to begin with. GW tapped into all the angry rightwingers who didn't want leftist shit, but had money.
The fashy fans are gone now however, that goodwill spent, and now we'll see if GW's Wokehammer can take the Modern Audiences away from Disney and Soy Wars.

Not what I'm seeing. It's only the lore fans that are upset with GW now, because they've been openly woke for more than half a decade; right wing fans keep calling on people to boycott them, but GW's star continues to rise because the paypigs don't give a shit about the lore and only care about two things; the meta and the figurines.

If I ever took control of GW, I'd piss off the lore fans by giving 40K its own End Times period so I can bring 30K characters into 40K, but I'd make sure the paypigs get everything they want by coming out with new models for a resurrected Emperor, the loyalist Primarchs, the Chaos Primarchs like Horus, as well as new faction models for each faction, with aesthetic changes based on fan input, and super-units for other factions to match the Emperor and the Primarchs. We'd also overhaul the game itself to make it more balanced and fun for all factions involved.

Then I'd sit back and watch as the lore fans throw another shit-fit and call for boycotts, but the paypigs and the people who are in the game for the meta buy our stuff in droves and go back home with smiles on their faces.

Will we get a Baby Ghazgkull and the Yarrick traveling the galaxy, worshipping Sister Katan's feet?

I am sure GW and Amazon were both happy. Amazon was thinking they Kangified another Chud palace, and GW was happy that millions of new Amazon fans would buy 5000 dollars worth of plastic crack and they can do away with the icky wehraboo neckbeards and magapede yikerinos for the Modern Audience.

The wehraboo neckbeards and the MAGA-pede yikerinos were never the major spenders in the 40K hobby. At most, they buy a few books now and then and maybe paint a model or two, but most of their time is spent reading 40K wiki articles or watching 40K lore videos. It's been forever since those yahoos have played a game, and GW knows that, hence why they don't care about offending them with lore changes like Primaris Marines and Fem-Custodes.

I for one, since now only anime deserves my money, had spent some of my cash on nice steaks instead of western media.

If you want plastic model kit hobby stuff, I'm sure Gundam model kits and action figures are available.

The handful of space marine novels that I've read feels like an bunch of manchildren having the occasional frat party in between running gay ops. The lore is kind of repetitive, for the most part. And it's kind of funny how someone who's 300 years didn't develop an sense of empathy or humor

There's the obvious difference between the 40K fans who actually read most of the novels, and those who read a few while just jacking off to how awesome everything is while reading the wiki. The former are not as gung-ho or as enthusiastic about 40K lore as the latter are, and the latter are usually the wingmen for 40K lore, talking about how awesome the universe is and how it's all ''based'' and ''epic'' in scale.

It's the same difference between the Star Wars fans who jack off to how awesome the SW Expanded Universe novels are, and the SWEU fans who actually read the novels, who got so sick of the crap in book series like Republic Commando, New Jedi Order, and Legacy of the Force, to the point where they were welcoming the canon wipe Disney did with the SWEU.

Many 40K novel fans I've talked to mention CS Goto or Matt Ward as their reason why they'll never buy another Black Library book. For some reason, I get the same feeling with them that I get when I talk with SW novel fans who are still angry at Troy Denning or Karen Traviss.

But given that other BL writers like Aaron Dembski-Bowden were pushing Femstodes all this time, it really does paint a picture of GW always having this progressive streak that a lot of fans, mostly the ''based'' lore fans, ignored.

 

[NerdShamer]

Many 40K novel fans I've talked to mention CS Goto or Matt Ward as their reason why they'll never buy another Black Library book

Yeah, most of the Black Library stuff that I came across felt kind more in line with an corny B movie than anything else.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Yeah, most of the Black Library stuff that I came across felt kind more in line with an corny B movie than anything else.

Exactly. It's just like how the more controversial SWEU novels felt like bad capeshit comics for 40-year-olds.

But you wouldn't know that if you met the 40K lorefans. Most of whom just take snippets of books and wiki articles and jack off to how awesome it all is; if you tell them that BL books read more like corny B-movies, they'll more than likely slap you in the face and say ''you don't get it''.

It's actually kind of funny; the closer a 40K fan is to the right-wing grifter community, the less they know about 40K as a whole, especially the reason why the factions act that way. Yet they act like they know the lore like the back of their necks, and they're offended that GW makes changes to it, even though GW outright stated multiple times that 40K lore has no canon and they reserve the right to retcon anything they please.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

Speaking of books, was listening to Son of the Forest on the commute and missed a line. Did Zabriel say that one Fallen he met and didn't like had gotten so lost without purpose he devoted himself to Mork? Because lol. And why Mork, not Gork?

 

[Salt_Merchant]

Yeah, most of the Black Library stuff that I came across felt kind more in line with an corny B movie than anything else.

90% of black library books are bolter porn

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

90% of black library books are bolter porn

And if they're focused on anything other than the Imperial Guard or Space Marines, Chaos or otherwise, they have a high tendency to be ass. (T. Eldar enjoyer having to suffer through Gav Thorpe fucking up the Ynarri and Mike Brooks being an insufferable fag.)

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

90% of black library books are bolter porn

Read the HH books. Can confirm. Such deep writing. Much wow.

 

[Salt_Merchant]

And if they're focused on anything other than the Imperial Guard or Space Marines, Chaos or otherwise, they have a high tendency to be ass. (T. Eldar enjoyer having to suffer through Gav Thorpe fucking up the Ynarri and Mike Brooks being an insufferable fag.)

the sooner you accept that all non space marine factions sole purpose is to make space marines look awesome the happier you will be

or hope an author with some talent comes along and decides he wants to be the eldar guy, like christ wraight did with white scars.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Read the HH books. Can confirm. Such deep writing. Much wow.

Look, everyone read the first three and had high hopes. Then there was the Cabal, Erda, the retcons, the reveals that were worse than the mystery, and by the end of it we were all praying for death. We didn't know, we were innocent in this.

 

[Snekposter]

Third one mostly done, got a grot gogg to round out the unitView attachment 5973231

Awww, that's cute.

Karen Traviss

Her Republic Commando stuff is pretty solid, and a lot of people are pissed Dave Furrloni and his "New Mandalorians" bullshit killed the Imperial Commando successor series. Her weird post-Vong stuff that's Mando fellatio is definitely sub-part but nowhere near as bad as things could have been, but the less said about her Halo stuff the better.

 

[The tired cat]

Nothing could possibly persuade you that Warhammer is going woke or that GW is taking a nosedive. Be it by their own hand, Amazon bending them to their will or Blackrock buying them out, or whatever else, GW is going woke because woke is what it means to be mainstream, but you're inconvincible of that fact and have hostility to any opposing viewpoints, probably solely on the basis of your personal politics. You've made it clear that GW can do no wrong by you and you'll attack any criticism of the company or try to dismiss any sign that the company is embracing woke politics, and the truth is that my source doesn't matter because the facts are the real problem.

Nigga, how about ya present actual proper proof, instead of using grifter faggots who'll scream "OMG!!!! WOKE GUYZ!!! IT SO JOVER!!!" at a drop of a hat. So far your "proof" is a 2 year old book, that I doubt anyone even remembers or the whole FemCustodes shit, that again being milked by retarded grifters. Like, we cannot be angry at GW for legit shit, nonononono..we need to make up fuckin woke boogiemen, because like for obnoxious Twatter lefties tackling legit shit "too haaard guyz".

"This book is two years old, what does that prove?"

That the rot has been sinking in for longer than we knew? That the whole point of this throwaway line in this two year old book is to test the waters before going further, to hide in plain sight, to incrementally insert woke politics in an IP that had none of it, ect.

Oh piss off with this ASJW "Da rot was sinking in for longer before we knew" faggotry. Jesus fuck dude, how about ya seriously lay off the ASJW juice, cause you already sounding as the most paranoid wanker possible.

You'll find a lot of people care, actually

If by "people" you mean those tards that can only count to ten if they're barefoot or wearing sandels and think the 40k universe was "based".

 

[ForTheHoard]

I didn't watch the Arch video but I know what he's complaining about. There's a line in Iron and Bone by James Swallow where a character is referring to a 3rd party as being in transition. Swallow was asked to clarify what that meant and he said it was in reference to someone in the Imperium that had some kind of gender reassignment procedure. My guess is that Arch is bitching about vaginoplasty being Black Library canon.

I read Hammer and Anvil by Swallow and really enjoyed it. Sisters, Necrons, and Mechanicus. It was entertaining.

Mr. Swallow (Strong Woman Appreciator)

I've seen some people saying tranny Sisters confirmed but it's really a nothing burger.

 

[Van Darkholme]

Forgive me for a bit of a rant here, but I've never had a particularly high opinion of Guy from Midwinter Minis, and having seen his latest video, I just had to come here and register my absolute disgust at it and say that if I had a single nano-molecule of respect left for that man, it has absolutely and completely fucking dissipated.

Haven't bothered with this faggot since his absolute shit take on the nazi tank.
Don't need virtue signaling from someone who dropped his wife and children for some bitch he met via warhammer.

 

[Salt_Merchant]

I've seen some people saying tranny Sisters confirmed but it's really a nothing burger.

For context, the conversation is between a pilot and a sister of battle,

the pilot mentions he knew someone who took the sisters name when they transitioned (as its in the book of heroes)

considering the pilot doesnt say he knew a sister who took the name, its pretty safe to assume that its just a troon the pilot knew (probably another pilot)

i think anyone stating this is evidence of geedubs woke agenda to create misters of battle or whatever other nonsense the rage peddlers are grifting on is retarded and gay.

what it is is a throw away line between to literally who characters that will never be relevant or mentioned in 40k lore ever again in a book no one read.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Her Republic Commando stuff is pretty solid, and a lot of people are pissed Dave Furrloni and his "New Mandalorians" bullshit killed the Imperial Commando successor series. Her weird post-Vong stuff that's Mando fellatio is definitely sub-part but nowhere near as bad as things could have been, but the less said about her Halo stuff the better.

PM me about this. But suffice to say, I disagree; Traviss' RC books are the SW equivalent of the Ultramarine books by Matt Ward, and the Mandalorians are her Ultramarines. Her Halo books are the same level of bad.

Nothing could possibly persuade you that Warhammer is going woke or that GW is taking a nosedive. Be it by their own hand, Amazon bending them to their will or Blackrock buying them out, or whatever else, GW is going woke because woke is what it means to be mainstream, but you're inconvincible of that fact and have hostility to any opposing viewpoints, probably solely on the basis of your personal politics. You've made it clear that GW can do no wrong by you and you'll attack any criticism of the company or try to dismiss any sign that the company is embracing woke politics, and the truth is that my source doesn't matter because the facts are the real problem.

GW was woke to begin with. They made 40K as an attack on Thatcherite conservatives in Britain. The fact that many conservative fans of 40K don't realize this is stupid.

If by "people" you mean those tards that can only count to ten if they're barefoot or wearing sandels and think the 40k universe was "based".

40K is about as ''based'' as a leftie college pothead thinking that religion is the reason we had the Dark Ages. That's practically half the reason the setting is the way it is; the reason the Imperium is a backwards, stunted, superstitious shithole is because the original 40K writers believed religion would bring us to that kind of society.

In reality, the Church spent fortunes supporting scientific research, religious empires like Spain, France, and Britain used their advanced science and technology to force the heathen to embrace Christianity, and the scientific method had religious origins.

But you couldn't tell that to the original 40K writers, who portrayed the Emperor as a man of science who despised faith, and who portrayed the religious Techpriests as backwards, stunted fools who merely preserved old technology instead of innovating new tech, the latter of which is what religious empires actually did in the West.