Warhammer 40k

[LazarusOwenhart]

Either a massive civil war OR Daddy E wakes up JUUUUUST in time to witness a massive Nid hive fleet sweep into the galaxy and start om nom noming planets and decides the whole "Please stop worshiping me you dogma entrenched idiots" conversation can wait. They could use that as an opportunity to remove the 'everybody hates everybody' attitude that's starting to make the fluff boring. If Big E Makes Terra Great Again and removes a lot of the restrictions on R&D that have been holding the imperium back as I said before, we can have cool shit like Volkite weapons in 40k.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

They could, but a LOT of factions would need to be gone.
-Ministorum and as such, their priests.
-Sisters of Battle.
-Grey Knights.
-Inquisition.

Plus

-Some Astartes chapters, like the Black Templars.
-Half of the Guard and the Navy.
-Maybe some Admech.

I think it would cut into their sales, but we all know GW is dumb, I mean, they did it with Fantasy. They may roll all custodes/Gk/other marines into Spessh Marynes, with armour made out of Emperorium and rename Earth as Emperoron or Emperorworld.

I dunno, they could make a cool new army book with a combination of those factions and have 3 marine codexs (Loyalist, Rebels and Traitor/Chaos).

 

[Caddchef]

All other factions are wiped out, Warhammer 40k is rebranded Warhammer Orky-K.

Actually that should be Waaaghamma Orky-k.

Either a massive civil war OR Daddy E wakes up JUUUUUST in time to witness a massive Nid hive fleet sweep into the galaxy and start om nom noming planets and decides the whole "Please stop worshiping me you dogma entrenched idiots" conversation can wait. They could use that as an opportunity to remove the 'everybody hates everybody' attitude that's starting to make the fluff boring. If Big E Makes Terra Great Again and removes a lot of the restrictions on R&D that have been holding the imperium back as I said before, we can have cool shit like Volkite weapons in 40k.

At a guess i'd say the big E passes on but some magical space fluff somehow makes warp travel possible, Abbaddon is defeated again by the returning primarchs but the Imperium is split between the returning Primarchs including Pappa Smurf who got over his mortal wounds by the power of pure Marysue-ism.

GW suddenly remember the Xeno races and decide the Eldar need another buff for the next edition and that Orks are still okay using the buggy kit from 1997.

Chaos runs off and cries in the warp for another ten thousand years.

 

[LazarusOwenhart]

Actually that should be Waaaghamma Orky-k.


At a guess i'd say the big E passes on but some magical space fluff somehow makes warp travel possible, Abbaddon is defeated again by the returning primarchs but the Imperium is split between the returning Primarchs including Pappa Smurf who got over his mortal wounds by the power of pure Marysue-ism.

GW suddenly remember the Xeno races and decide the Eldar need another buff for the next edition and that Orks are still okay using the buggy kit from 1997.

Chaos runs off and cries in the warp for another ten thousand years.

Big E's last words of course being "Fuck's sake Roboute, it's a flesh wound get up and walk it off you pussy, you're the NEW EMPRA!" And Ultramarines shall rejoice for he has Made Ultramar Great Again! You know if Matt Ward had anything to do with it that's exactly what would happen.

 

[Male Idiot]

Well if the Emperor returned to the Imperial Truth, what would exactly stop Chaos? It would be Horus Heresy 2.0 the Chaos bungalooo.

Atheism is not at all rewarding when everybody important knows that demons are totally real.

Space marines, Inquisitors and the rest would find out that their god is not wanting them, and would flock to Chaos in droves.

Right now the only thing keeping the humans from falling to Chaos is that they got a better option. Remove that option, and unless Ethereal Caste mind control takes place, the humans will realise that Chaos is not so bad after all.

The GK's resistance to the warp comes from their depthless faith, so even if they did not turn to Chaos, they would find their faith broken.

The Emperor would be a massive idiot to revert to the Imperial Truth. He was a massive idiot to do it in the first place.

Mind he could just encourage the Mechanicus to be more proactive in making new shit, the Administratum to be less corrupt.

 

[KingGeedorah]

Well if the Emperor returned to the Imperial Truth, what would exactly stop Chaos? It would be Horus Heresy 2.0 the Chaos bungalooo.

Atheism is not at all rewarding when everybody important knows that demons are totally real.

Space marines, Inquisitors and the rest would find out that their god is not wanting them, and would flock to Chaos in droves.

Right now the only thing keeping the humans from falling to Chaos is that they got a better option. Remove that option, and unless Ethereal Caste mind control takes place, the humans will realise that Chaos is not so bad after all.

The GK's resistance to the warp comes from their depthless faith, so even if they did not turn to Chaos, they would find their faith broken.

The Emperor would be a massive idiot to revert to the Imperial Truth. He was a massive idiot to do it in the first place.

Mind he could just encourage the Mechanicus to be more proactive in making new shit, the Administratum to be less corrupt.

Idk if you guys read any of the Black Library novels, but you should check out Vengeful Spirit. It goes into why the Emperor made such retarded decisions such as not telling his sons about the Warp or the entire Council of Nikaea.


Also, this is a great read if you haven't seen it...http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rocks_Are_Not_Free!

 

[Male Idiot]

Idk if you guys read any of the Black Library novels, but you should check out Vengeful Spirit. It goes into why the Emperor made such exceptional decisions such as not telling his sons about the Warp or the entire Council of Nikaea.


Also, this is a great read if you haven't seen it...http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rocks_Are_Not_Free!

I know why he made the decision. I think he was just plain wrong and the high lords usually run an empire better than him. Its not that High Lords are bad , its just that the Emprah has less people skills than Chris Chan and has no PR advisors, and he does not seem to understand Chaos at all.

 

[King_Scrotus]

LEAKS YO

Or not, really teases, but good ones this time! So I'm just gonna use this board to sperg on about shit, as usual. So it was just announced that a whole slurry of things are planned for 2017, most notably, several new characters, and a truly advancing plot, thanks to...

Now, alongside this, we have the return of Saint Celestine, who, for space saving purposes, I'll not show a pic of her new model. As well, a new mechanicus character has appeared, named Belisarius Cawl,

According to rumors, he's a Magos who's been working on a super secret project for over 10,000 years, making him one of the single oldest living members of the Imperium, sans the Emperor, if true.

All this connects together in the next image, which was given alongside a hint that the plotline /may/ be that Celestine is returning, heading a Black Templar crusade meant to penetrate the cadian gate, likely after its announced fall.

In this image, connections form between a few of the new characters, including that qt inquisitor girl I forget to mention, as well as an as of yet unannounced (As far as we know) character in the background, in the red, eldar like armor.

Now is the time for personal theories. So, given the image itself, we first notice the bright blue hue which typically denotes the inside of the webway, and the presence of the eldar-like character, presumably a dark eldar due to his spikey armor, we can assume that for some reason, this black templar crusade force is being lead through the webway by this dark eldar ally. Now, one may wonder why the DE would ally with marines. I think that Belisarius is the connection here. Being a character present during 30K times, it can be presumed that his secret research may have something to do with the webway, maybe even the imperial webway project. As well, in a recent codex, it was shown that a Mechanicus/Inquisitor sect recently visited the Dark Eldar capital of Commoragh, to seek their help in bolstering the golden throne, and that a dark deal was struck between the two parties.

So in the end, I think this is something of an extension of that deal, the newly realized human/DE aliance using the webway, now available to them through the DE, to make a surprised strike at Cadia, meant to break Abaddon's renewed offensive, which appears to have now fully taken the world. /end fantheories

Oh, there was also this video, so more info on the seventh!

Edit: Found a bigger version of the above image, but it's got shit written all over it, so here.

 

[Male Idiot]

Two observations.

The first, that magos will make an excellent Mechanicus HQ unit for an Archmagos.

Second, who is that red guy? Looks like a Dark Eldar who styles himself a Custodes.

 

[ES 148]

I don't know if this is the right thread, and I don't think many people will care all too much, but I'm working on a WH40K roguelike based on the Python+Libtcod Roguelike Tutorial. In which you are some poor schmuck from your chosen faction who has to go grab something from deep inside the less-deadly regions of a Space Hulk.
Currently I have more than twice the tutorial's code, which is nice, and it's in a playable state, but it's nowhere near done. And when it is, GW will send me a Cease and Desist.
Just mentioning in case anyone was interested/filled with rage/completely indifferent.

 

[King_Scrotus]

Two observations.

The first, that magos will make an excellent Mechanicus HQ unit for an Archmagos.

Second, who is that red guy? Looks like a Dark Eldar who styles himself a Custodes.

Belisarius is apparently quite big for a regular mech model, apparently he's also going to be quite powerful on the tabletop, though that's just rumors I've heard.

As for the red guy, yeah, the running presumption is that he's a Dark Eldar of some sort, maybe an Incubus or such.

 

[Burned Man]

"Fall of Cadia" That's just what Creed wants you to think. Open any of the boxes to these new models and all you'll find are the pieces to build a Baneblade.

 

[Male Idiot]

Belisarius is apparently quite big for a regular mech model, apparently he's also going to be quite powerful on the tabletop, though that's just rumors I've heard.

As for the red guy, yeah, the running presumption is that he's a Dark Eldar of some sort, maybe an Incubus or such.

Great Picture. I'll repost it I think, I definately want to get him, he has a limb dedicated to a pimp cane!

 

[LazarusOwenhart]

Belisarius is apparently quite big for a regular mech model, apparently he's also going to be quite powerful on the tabletop, though that's just rumors I've heard.

As for the red guy, yeah, the running presumption is that he's a Dark Eldar of some sort, maybe an Incubus or such.

Good old Mechanicum, judging ranks based solely on how much scrap you've got stuck to you. It's worse than Orks.

 

[ES 148]

Reading the old 1st-ed Rogue Trader handbook's modelling advice is hilarious because if modern!GW saw the modelling tips they'd have a collective heart attack.
'You can achieve quite a nice effect using upside-down yoghurt pots' is still my favourite bit, personally. That's, what, £75 of expensive scenery kits you can skip out on buying?

 

[Surtur]

I'm going to go broke in 2017.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Does anyone else look into alternatives to Citadel? Reaper makes some great-looking and shockingly inexpensive Giant Wererats that look much more lively than the current Rat Ogre models. And I'm thinking about picking up one of these Ultraforge Plague Demons to serve as a Nurgle Daemon Prince.

 

[Judge Holden]

Holy shit....actual fuckin plot advancement?!

Jesus fuck im fairly sure Saddam was still in charge of Iraq the last fucking time this happened.

Now. Here is the tricky question. Will this result in

a) a MASSIVE reboot akin to End Times with swaths of factions squatted (Sisters of battle, Seperate eldar factions, half the "big name" chapters like the Raven Guard and dogfuckers space wolves im lookin at you), lore/setting permanently and massively overhauled, the universe effectively reset, and a whole host of expensive new models rolled out by the autispastic GW marketing department who still think that kicking loyal fans in the dick in a hilariously doomed effort to attract rich children away from their far cheaper and more immediately gratifying video games

b) inconsequential and predictable shit happens. Chaos lays siege to terra but gets beaten back with a couple of deaths here and there but everything goes back to normal. Basically Storm of Chaos.

c) same as a) but with the setting merged with Age of Sigmar. Because you all fuckin know games workshop is stupid enough to do this.

Regardless, I shall now be opening the betting pool as to which armies will be thrown in the bin forever.

-sisters of battle (because GW obviously get off on fucking this faction over)
-Iron Hands/White Scars/Raven Guard (because GW literally never cared about these chapters evar)
-Craftworld Eldar (because ONLY GRIMDARK ELDAR CAN LIVE!!!)
-a "big name" chapter i.e. blood angels/salamanders/imperial fists (just to make things super srs guiz)

Anyone have any more suggestions let them be known

 

[Male Idiot]

Does anyone else look into alternatives to Citadel? Reaper makes some great-looking and shockingly inexpensive Giant Wererats that look much more lively than the current Rat Ogre models. And I'm thinking about picking up one of these Ultraforge Plague Demons to serve as a Nurgle Daemon Prince.

Generally almost all "alternatives" are not really that good quality and usually made from that most horrendous of materials, Resin. I would only suggest using small accessories that you can't get otherwise, like shoulderpads for a chapter that GW does not do. Most of the ripoff stuff looks tacky like Age of Sigmar too.

Resin has the following problems:
-Often warped.
-Mouldline heavy.
-Paint does not stick to it, and neither does the basecoat spray.

That eldritch horror, finecast had even more problems, but usually has sharper details than resin.
-Often warped, and even harder to bend back than Resin.
-Mouldline heavy.
-Paint chips off from it at the slightest of touches.
-Brittle, which is the most horrid thing a miniature can have.

Now the only problem that I ever had with GW plastics are usually somewhat rare:
-Minor mouldlines.
-Melts from basecoat spray. This happens very rarely, and usually with non GW basecoat sprays like Vallejo or Army Painter. Not sure what causes this, since most of the sprays work fine most of the time. Maybe something wrong in the plastic the model was made from? I had this happen twice out of like a hundred times.

Holy shit....actual fuckin plot advancement?!

Jesus fuck im fairly sure Saddam was still in charge of Iraq the last fucking time this happened.

Now. Here is the tricky question. Will this result in

a) a MASSIVE reboot akin to End Times with swaths of factions squatted (Sisters of battle, Seperate eldar factions, half the "big name" chapters like the Raven Guard and dogfuckers space wolves im lookin at you), lore/setting permanently and massively overhauled, the universe effectively reset, and a whole host of expensive new models rolled out by the autispastic GW marketing department who still think that kicking loyal fans in the dick in a hilariously doomed effort to attract rich children away from their far cheaper and more immediately gratifying video games

b) inconsequential and predictable shit happens. Chaos lays siege to terra but gets beaten back with a couple of deaths here and there but everything goes back to normal. Basically Storm of Chaos.

c) same as a) but with the setting merged with Age of Sigmar. Because you all fuckin know games workshop is stupid enough to do this.

Regardless, I shall now be opening the betting pool as to which armies will be thrown in the bin forever.

-sisters of battle (because GW obviously get off on fucking this faction over)
-Iron Hands/White Scars/Raven Guard (because GW literally never cared about these chapters evar)
-Craftworld Eldar (because ONLY GRIMDARK ELDAR CAN LIVE!!!)
-a "big name" chapter i.e. blood angels/salamanders/imperial fists (just to make things super srs guiz)

Anyone have any more suggestions let them be known

a) option would cause a great revenue loss and I think if GW goes that dumb, they would go with c) and we would have Sigmarhammer80k.

b) The most logical and sanest way to do it. This is what I would do, because this is the only option that will not alienate half of the customerbase.

c) Alongside b) this is more likable, because we know GW was stupid enough to do it with Fantasy. I can only hope that 40k being their cash cow prevents them from doing it.

Sisters of battle I think will be merged with other imperial minor factions. Basically, the Agents of the Imperium codex for Inquisition, Asassins, Sisters of both kinds.

Both three of those chapters got a lot of attention lately, especially Raven Guard.

Maybe they would merge Eldar into one race, but I doubt it.

They may, but like when they wiped out the Imperial Fists with the Beast series, they would be refounded so no moneyz lost.

What I think is that a lot of smaller armies will be combined into bigger ones. All Craftworld eldar into one Eldar faction, Skitarii and Mechanicus into one Mechanicus faction, Imperial Guard and Scions into one Astra Militarium and so on.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Generally almost all "alternatives" are not really that good quality and usually made from that most horrendous of materials, Resin. I would only suggest using small accessories that you can't get otherwise, like shoulderpads for a chapter that GW does not do. Most of the ripoff stuff looks tacky like Age of Sigmar too.

Resin has the following problems:
-Often warped.
-Mouldline heavy.
-Paint does not stick to it, and neither does the basecoat spray.

That eldritch horror, finecast had even more problems, but usually has sharper details than resin.
-Often warped, and even harder to bend back than Resin.
-Mouldline heavy.
-Paint chips off from it at the slightest of touches.
-Brittle, which is the most horrid thing a miniature can have.

Now the only problem that I ever had with GW plastics are usually somewhat rare:
-Minor mouldlines.
-Melts from basecoat spray. This happens very rarely, and usually with non GW basecoat sprays like Vallejo or Army Painter. Not sure what causes this, since most of the sprays work fine most of the time. Maybe something wrong in the plastic the model was made from? I had this happen twice out of like a hundred times.



a) option would cause a great revenue loss and I think if GW goes that dumb, they would go with c) and we would have Sigmarhammer80k.

b) The most logical and sanest way to do it. This is what I would do, because this is the only option that will not alienate half of the customerbase.

c) Alongside b) this is more likable, because we know GW was stupid enough to do it with Fantasy. I can only hope that 40k being their cash cow prevents them from doing it.

Sisters of battle I think will be merged with other imperial minor factions. Basically, the Agents of the Imperium codex for Inquisition, Asassins, Sisters of both kinds.

Both three of those chapters got a lot of attention lately, especially Raven Guard.

Maybe they would merge Eldar into one race, but I doubt it.

They may, but like when they wiped out the Imperial Fists with the Beast series, they would be refounded so no moneyz lost.

What I think is that a lot of smaller armies will be combined into bigger ones. All Craftworld eldar into one Eldar faction, Skitarii and Mechanicus into one Mechanicus faction, Imperial Guard and Scions into one Astra Militarium and so on.

Did they make an Agents of the Inquisition army yet? I would think that merging Sisters and Daemonhunters would be ok considering their associated Ordos' targets overlap more often than not.