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That's GW's own fault for making everything that isn't an ion or rail weapon either mediocre or situational. The burst cannon has been a joke compared to the other weapons for as long as I can remember.
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Im sure this wanker gets women all the time...that mace him, slap him, give him falls phone numbers, throw their drinks at him.
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I smell a future lolcow in the making. Probably not enough public stupidity for a PG thread yet, but give it time.
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You're not wrong I was just stating why they did it. In GW's mind balance isn't about all stat blocks being situationally useful. It's about point costing good options until people stop taking them at all. Burst cannons hit home the hardest. Thematically they're my favorite weapon. But why would I take them over flamers when flamers auto hit on overwatch, and ignore cover cover? The 5 strength of a burst cannon is rarely useful, and so is the extra 6" range since all other buffs for the unit want you to be within at least 9".
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>shilling body improvements for weak flesh instead of going full admech
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More like MajorShill, amirite, gamers?
I doubt he'll hit that point, but it's definitely lolcow behavior. Same with that Midwinter Minis guy.
Nah. This guy is pretending to be some straight alpha turbo chad while being simultaneously gay as hell and I'm pretty sure either trying not to hide it or trying to get people to DM him. I say that due to the gay as fuck picture of him basically cuddling up next to 2 other dudes wearing pink cowboy hats and neckerchiefs.
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Those simps are just a bunch of liberals and homosexuals the greater good is complete in other lie also they have no psychic warriors which basically just screws all of the technology up I have all my fancy drones I have a guy who can melt your mind with a thought checkmate subhuman space liberals.
The guy who created them had a much more fun idea when he originally came up with them they were opposed to be space lizard people.
Actually they have much more advanced technology it's just that it's very hard to get back up to pre heresy levels of production because a lot of the most advanced schematics will either destroyed or a lot of the warped lanes were contaminated.
also the one time that a mantis destroyed an emperor tightened with complete nonsense a emperor Titan is literally a walking fortress the mantis shouldn't even even be remotely able to scratch its void shields.
The thing is capable of shooting down capital ships from the ground and is protected by an entire complement of Warhound Titans usually.
And the only reason they still exist is because the nids are a bigger threat if the Imperium wanted they could wipe out their empire but they make really good Distractions for their enemies.
Also the fact that EMP pulses work against space Marines is **** i'm sure at one point some one tried to do that and they shielded the armor against that.
They were actually losing against the imperium of man in on the verge of destruction before the space bug showed up
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Listen I’d climb into a daemoncubala to end up as an 8 foot tall muscular space racist. For now I’ll have to settle with being taller than 6 feet and just a regular racist with some muscle
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Well, its not even when compared to just battlesuit weapons, but when you look at them compared to every other dedicated anti-infantry weapon they've got issues, biggest one being 18" of range. HB's have 36" of range, in earlier editions AP4, and in 10E Sustained Hits. Scatter Lasers? 36" A6 S6, but no AP, but get Sustained Hits. Shuriken cannons are 24" and A3, but S6, D2, and Lethal Hits on top of that. Splinter cannon? 36", Anti-Infantry 3+, D2, and Sustained Hits.
An 18" S5 A4 weapon with D1 and no AP simply isn't comparable to any of those, and it never was even in earlier editions.
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New Necromunda model that’s clearly a Blood Angels renegade
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Despite being the shooty army, T'au is really shit at shooting. There are maybe some guns that are extra shooty, like a Hammerhead railgun, but overall we have to jump through so many hoops just to be on par with other factions. GW is really trying to force T'au to be this weird close range shooting army. I get they probably do it to prevent people like me who want to turtle in the deployment zone and be an immovable wall of guns. Doesn't seem to stop them from giving it to Imperial Fists who get Heavy on all their BS 3+ guns and the cool orbital strike stratagem that T'au had in 9th edition. Necrons have also been a lot of fun because it feels like I have less book-keeping and less combos I have to juggle just to keep up. My setup doesn't completely fall apart once I lose an observer unit.
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I legitimately wouldn't mind a focus on the Enclaves being geared around close-range shooty because that's how Farsight (and his fuck-huge sword) likes to roll (especially since he absolutely despises Orks and wishes to beat them at their own game so he can prove Tau supremacy, shit man, even give him the option to samurai-up his Crisis suits with power blades so they can rip and tear), but the main Tau faction as a whole should be like those classic memes about how you'll never, ever get anywhere near close combat with them.
The easiest way to start fixing the Tau meta would be to give Fire Warriors weapons options that aren't rifles or carbines, maybe a couple pulse blasters, or even give the Shas'ui an option to take a burst cannon and up it to 20" so it synergizes with the carbines, or for those preferring the classic shooty gameplay ion and rail rifles (7e would have been perfect for that with the anti-vehicle/mob-breaker ion rifles balanced as a choice against the anti-TEQ rail rifles). The vision of a Fire Warrior gunline tossing out S8 pie plates on top of those pulse rifles is magnificent and would have given players a reason to do something that wasn't battlesuit spam, except that was the edition GW decided to push giant expensive walkers as their new form of plastic crack.
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The poor Strike Team needs a reason to exist. Better overwatch isn't terrible, but not great for a unit that isn't meant to put out a ton of damage. Suppression Volley is also a novel idea of them not needing to deal damage, but will debuff the enemy to help your other units. It's main issue is it fails to fit into any role particularly well. It's cheap but a bit slow to be an action monkey. It's not tanky or spikey enough to hold a point. We already have breachers that are designed to take points and do it really well. It's not cheap enough for me to pay for it to sit on the home objective doing nothing all game. Not when Kroot Carnivores are cheaper and will sticky it for me. It's support turret doesn't offer enough indirect fire to justify it sitting behind terrain all game. With marker drones being plentiful it's not even a good spotter unit. Stealth suits are not only cheaper but also better at spotting, pathfinders are slightly more expensive but can spot double the targets. If it can't harass, deal damage, hold a point, take a point, move quickly for actions, or spot effectively then wtf does it do? The answer is nothing. You take it because pule rifles are cool and damn this copium hits good.
It needs to slot into at least one of these categories. Depending on which you want depends on how it needs to be changed. In my mind I think GW imagines it as a point holder. It may not be great statwise but if you can shoot something it'll debuff it to make it harder to kill you. -1 to hit is a very meh way yo do it when there are plenty of ways for other armies to negate this. Not to mention this only applies to Infantry units. If your opponent is coming at you with a tank, or bikes, or walkers, or literally anything else you're screwed. Giving them access to a rail rifle for some anti armor might not be a bad idea. I think I'd like to see Suppression Volley changed to be a movement debuff. Maybe the target gets -2" to movement and charge rolls. That is something I feel T'au lack is the ability to lock down an opponent that has moved out of position. Kroot are really the only thing that we can afford to charge in and move block.
It needs to slot into at least one of these categories. Depending on which you want depends on how it needs to be changed. In my mind I think GW imagines it as a point holder. It may not be great statwise but if you can shoot something it'll debuff it to make it harder to kill you. -1 to hit is a very meh way yo do it when there are plenty of ways for other armies to negate this. Not to mention this only applies to Infantry units. If your opponent is coming at you with a tank, or bikes, or walkers, or literally anything else you're screwed. Giving them access to a rail rifle for some anti armor might not be a bad idea. I think I'd like to see Suppression Volley changed to be a movement debuff. Maybe the target gets -2" to movement and charge rolls. That is something I feel T'au lack is the ability to lock down an opponent that has moved out of position. Kroot are really the only thing that we can afford to charge in and move block.
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Another issue is the fact they come in MEQ quantities but without MEQ durability, so they can't even fulfill the basic, timeless, and thankless job line infantry have of acting as meatshield for your more vulnerable or well-armed units, which is where the battlesuit spam has come into play since they can hold the line way better than Fire Warriors can as a result of their increased durability, and in 7e where you could take nine Crisis suits per squad plus two drones each they rather perversely had the quantity Strike Teams lacked.
In 7e a unit of 9 Crisis squads with a mix of missile pods and plasma rifles (15 points each) but no other weapons is 333 points, shield generators are 25 points for a 4+ invuln for a total of 558 points with those, so you could have 18 Crisis teams with 3+/4++ save, T5, and 2W for 1,116 points, which leaves enough room for some smaller units in a 2k game. (Yes, I deliberately chose not to take the cyclic ion blasters)
And you could just go the full bullshit route and run a Farsight list so your Crisis teams were troops, so you didn't even need to bother with squishy Fire Warriors to take and hold points and could just spend all 2k on Crisis suits, including your HQ and bodyguards. 6 teams of 4 dudes each with that setup I mentioned above is 1488 points (based!), which fills out your entire Troops list nicely and has about 500 points for HQ/Broadsides.
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Arch Warhammer wins again.
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Arch has his own problems right now though , like white-knighting for the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 devs.
See here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance.39433/page-303
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Its the same reason Imperial Guard/Astra Militarium are shit at indirect fire. Focusing on deploying at the back of the map and killing everything that comes into view is a shit game to play for atleast one person every game. Players will optimize the fun out of a game if you let them, so half the challenge of making a game is giving them what they want without ruining it for everyone.