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Hey what sorta brand of super glue do you guys use primarily? I just got into the hobby and im having issues of putting my necrons together and the glue I'm using (gorilla) keeps melting them. Sorry for the retarded question.

Gorilla Glue Gel, the green label one. A little goes a long way.

It shouldn't melt anything you're doing. Plastic glue melts plastic (it's how it works). You might not want to use plastic cement until you're used to superglue. Tamiya Ultra Thin is my favorite plastic glue.

You think this is a nothingburger?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=j0j1EzBIlac

Apparently it's not a LE release or anything. I'm considering picking one up as an impulse buy if my FLGS has it, but one of them says they're doing it on order and actually making an order ruins the impulse thing. No FOMO also prevents me from feeling the urge to buy it either.

 

[Buckaroo]

No reason to be lenient on anything, those models are dog shit and the worst part about them is they've done a handful of limited catachan sculpts that actually look good.

Every time they released one of those limited edition Catachans I kept hoping it was to build up hype for a range refresh but GW kept letting me down.

 

[p1138]

Apparently it's not a LE release or anything. I'm considering picking one up as an impulse buy if my FLGS has it, but one of them says they're doing it on order and actually making an order ruins the impulse thing. No FOMO also prevents me from feeling the urge to buy it either.

That was actually one of the few things GW did right with HH 2.0, just leaving the launch box as a starter(they fucked up the announcement of it... because of course they did, saying there wouldn't be a starter box because their definition is different and means the little $100 beginner boxes... GW fucks up even when they get something right). That's probably one of the things they should have taken from HH 2.0 and applied to their other games but didn't.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Fuck, I forgot about the derpy Catachan Jungle Fighters. I may be lenient on older models, but those definitely show their age

The only thing worse than being an elder fan is being a fan of. Obscure Imperial Guard regiments you are never going to get. Archon Confederate steam suits. I also can never get my. German World War Two tank regiment. Guise.
Fuck you if you want Vistrian dragoons. How the fuck am I supposed to get my niggas?
My favorite one that's actually mentioned in Firecast is the guys whose Imperial Guard unit is literally on water walls. They literally drop actual battleships. Which is the single coolest idea. And they should really make Peter Favouri write an actual Imperial Guard book rather than the cosmic horror books he writes. Because he somehow makes Imperial Guide even cooler.

I don't give a fuck what you charge me. I would pay 10s of thousands of dollars just to get an entire army of all the things that are mentioned in that book. You should read Firecast.

Also, Book of the Martyrs I would say is pretty good. Especially the part where the sister of battle just goes up to the Tao. And just start screwing with him so he can get close to him and then starts beating his head into. A console.

Also, the line where the Sisters of Battle are trying to explain the concept of faith in miracles and the Imperial Creed to the Reddit atheist Tao will never not be funny.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

On the topic of the 3.0 HH start price, Alchemist Workshop also has it on a huge discount

Element games however are still selling at £165.

They may be having less trouble shifting units due to some unknown reason or they're stubborn as fuck.

 

[Guntkvd]

It bleeds.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

It bleeds.

Not sure how many boxes element games has in stock as their website just says 10+ but Alchemist Workshop shop shows the exact number and they currently have 350 boxes left.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Very much so. The "push button, get mini" crowd are extra special. Its as heavy a time investment as painting.

Personally I enjoy taking items I come across and turn them into terrain. I’d like a 3D printer and set it up for terrain and scatter terrain to tell a scene but there’s something more personal about grabbing bits and turning them into things. Like using pine cones as alien flora, turning my dog poop bag holder into a pile of steel pipes, carving up a block of styrofoam and sticking in bent paper clips so it’s like a bombed out wall with rebar sticking out of it, and using old energy drink cans painted up and some bits of pipe as a fuel tank holder. Only issue is it’s turning me into a bit of a hoarder as I can definitely maybe see a use for something and toss it in a box that I’ll get around to eventually.

 

[Humble Architect]

Personally I enjoy taking items I come across and turn them into terrain. I’d like a 3D printer and set it up for terrain and scatter terrain to tell a scene but there’s something more personal about grabbing bits and turning them into things. Like using pine cones as alien flora, turning my dog poop bag holder into a pile of steel pipes, carving up a block of styrofoam and sticking in bent paper clips so it’s like a bombed out wall with rebar sticking out of it, and using old energy drink cans painted up and some bits of pipe as a fuel tank holder. Only issue is it’s turning me into a bit of a hoarder as I can definitely maybe see a use for something and toss it in a box that I’ll get around to eventually.

I was like that.

I’ve been on a tear with cleaning, de-cluttering, getting rid of “one day” projects, selling my CONSOOMER shit and to reward my Jordan Peterson behaviour of cleaning my house, I bought some Iron Hands as a break from painting as Fulgrim Ryan Gosling Ken.

As my first Primaris kit, Bladeguards are fun, didn’t realize they used Gravis shoulders and their faux-HH Death Guard helmets are cool. They’re clearly the heralds of the “course-correct” after the awful Vigilus-era tacticool Primaris shit.

Literally only got em cause I play one in SM2.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Personally I enjoy taking items I come across and turn them into terrain. I’d like a 3D printer and set it up for terrain and scatter terrain to tell a scene but there’s something more personal about grabbing bits and turning them into things. Like using pine cones as alien flora, turning my dog poop bag holder into a pile of steel pipes, carving up a block of styrofoam and sticking in bent paper clips so it’s like a bombed out wall with rebar sticking out of it, and using old energy drink cans painted up and some bits of pipe as a fuel tank holder. Only issue is it’s turning me into a bit of a hoarder as I can definitely maybe see a use for something and toss it in a box that I’ll get around to eventually.

I rock and constructions, so I just steal random things for the job site. My terrain is made out of a mixture of random pieces of wood spray paint, and I've said it several times. What works really well is actually mortar and concrete stamps. Or you just actually make an actual concrete miniature form and form up like that. Keep in mind you do have to put Reboil in it and the shit is not movable. I mean the stuff I did. Made is, but it's fucking heavy as shit.

 

[Rimanah]

Speaking of 3D printers, anyone here have some recommendations on sources to get better at them? I got an FDM and Resin one a few years back for Christmas, but haven't had the time to really mess around and learn them until recently.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LXnF6A0nlaE"GW announced selling their own licensed helmet"
So?
"3d printing is so amazing"
What does that have to do with anything?
"We like DIY cosplay"
Ok, but you were SELLING the models and printed products
"we had to take down products and cancel future plans"
That's the point of a C&D instead of being slapped with a lawsuit
"I have no ill will... ...we just filled a void"
By commercially selling products based off of their IP
"If GW came to us and said we want to take your stuff and make it our stuff I'd be all for that, getting an actual licensing deal from GW is not as easy as it might sound"
But it wasn't your stuff, it was theirs, and why would they want to do business with you when you stole it? Can you even mass produce the product instead of just relying on a print farm if they even wanted to? Let me check the website

So the answer to that is clearly a no.
"We're friends with Trench Crusade"
Yeah, I'm sure you faggots are. Claiming they're interested in hiring people to do cosplay and partner with them wait... so it isn't that you could just make shit for TC... you have a business partnership with TC? That's not a nicer or more modern take on anything, that's called starting out doing shit legally in the first place.

What a bunch of faggotry. Even reddit thinks it's dumb and manipulative comparing it to that retarded etsy seller who was selling console gamepad shells that clearly infringed on IP they didn't have licenses for.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/1m6vr95/the_situation_with_galactic_armory/

I have no sympathy for anyone who markets their third party products using GW’s copyrighted names. All that tells me is you’re a retard who knows nothing and deserves all the suffering you brought upon yourself.
EVERYONE knows how GW is with their IP. Plenty of third party bits sellers, like kromlech or Victoria miniatures, avoid all these issues by using generic terms like “space legions” or “space orcs” and disclaimers like “compatible with 28mm models ”
Is GW really faggy when it comes to protecting their copyright? Yes, absolutely. Do they probably exceed what they need to do to actually protect it? Yeah.
Are you still a retard who deserves what happens to you? Yes, you touch the fire, you get burned.

And I don’t believe for ONE second these people are actual fans. Anyone who’s been in the hobby for any amount of time knows how bad GW is and about stuff like Chapterhouse. This is a bunch of fake fans trying to make a quick buck, and doing it in the dumbest way possible when even an ounce of research into GWs history and market practices would have told them what they need to do to avoid the Eye.
Fuck em, you get what you deserve retards. Better hope the Mouse doesn’t come for your Star Wars stuff too, because those faggots make GW seem like Null when it comes to copyright.

 

[p1138]

I have no sympathy for anyone who markets their third party products using GW’s copyrighted names. All that tells me is you’re a retard who knows nothing and deserves all the suffering you brought upon yourself.
EVERYONE knows how GW is with their IP. Plenty of third party bits sellers, like kromlech or Victoria miniatures, avoid all these issues by using generic terms like “space legions” or “space orcs” and disclaimers like “compatible with 28mm models ”
Is GW really faggy when it comes to protecting their copyright? Yes, absolutely. Do they probably exceed what they need to do to actually protect it? Yeah.
Are you still a retard who deserves what happens to you? Yes, you touch the fire, you get burned.

And I don’t believe for ONE second these people are actual fans. Anyone who’s been in the hobby for any amount of time knows how bad GW is and about stuff like Chapterhouse. This is a bunch of fake fans trying to make a quick buck, and doing it in the dumbest way possible when even an ounce of research into GWs history and market practices would have told them what they need to do to avoid the Eye.
Fuck em, you get what you deserve retards. Better hope the Mouse doesn’t come for your Star Wars stuff too, because those faggots make GW seem like Null when it comes to copyright.

Yeah, anyone who has been a fan of 40k for enough time, even without having been so during the chapterhouse lawsuit knows the entire reason why everything GW makes these days has a ridiculous name is due to trademarks because of the chapterhouse suit.

They may be having less trouble shifting units due to some unknown reason or they're stubborn as fuck.

If I remember right they've actually got a few retail locations they can spread inventory around in, rather than having a couple pallets occupy shelf space in a warehouse for a couple of years., but it could also be they saw the writing on the wall and opted to not max out their allocation from GW.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Speaking of 3D printers, anyone here have some recommendations on sources to get better at them? I got an FDM and Resin one a few years back for Christmas, but haven't had the time to really mess around and learn them until recently.

I can't speak too much on FDM. I've used FDM printers for years, though I'd still describe myself as a complete novice, so there are probably better recommendations out there, but Tomb of 3D Printed Horrors has always been a winner.

As far as resin goes, there are a lot of bullshitters out there. The trouble with resin is that there are so many variables involved that can make the difference between a successful print, a failed print and a print that you would be proud of putting some paint on. You've got temperature, humidity, viscosity of the resin, lift speeds, lift height, the model itself (the thing that most people overlook), cure times, display brightness, supports, FEP tension, Z-axis wobble etc Anyone claiming they have a "one size fits all" solution to any resin printing problem is likely a liar. You might get a ballpark answer to any problem you have, but a lot of it is trial and error depending on the machine you're using, the resin you're using and the model you're trying to print. Even the slicer you use makes a difference depending on what printer you're using.

The boomer answer to GTA IV's Brucie, 3DPrintingPro can be a good starting point (but as the late, great Epax distributor for the UK once said "Who the fuck calls themselves that?"). He's a bit of a bellend and a maybe a little overcautious with how he handles some aspects, but there is some good information there. Dennys Wang used to make some useful videos too, but he makes a lot of clickbait shit now.

 

[p1138]

I can't speak too much on FDM. I've used FDM printers for years, though I'd still describe myself as a complete novice, so there are probably better recommendations out there, but Tomb of 3D Printed Horrors has always been a winner.

I'm not a pro regarding FDM, but I've had a few and dealt with more over the years. I'd say there's 2 major categories at this point.

The hobbyist grade stuff like creality ender series where you're setting the printer up out of the box, and then spending the next 3 weeks printing upgrades for it, then buying a bunch of replacement parts as upgrades again. That shit is a waste of time unless fucking around with 3d printers is something you want as a hobby. The advanced DIY stuff like voron builds can be great, but again that's for people who want the 3d printer to be its own hobby.

The "this is an appliance and I don't want give a shit about it" category. Bambu labs, pre-built prusa machines, and some higher end stuff for expensive engineering materials. These are for people who want their shit to work, may not give a crap about open source software. Even the bambu a1 mini fits this category, which makes the fact that the ender 3 is still sold fucking retarded. Maybe you need to tweak the temperature for your filament if the settings from the vendor aren't quite right but unless you're trying to run the thing full speed all the time you probably won't even have to do that. Even messing with nozzles usually isn't a concern as the .4mm they all come with is fine for most shit(a .2mm just makes most prints take forever, and a larger nozzle you really only need if you're printing big shit constantly where layer lines won't matter). Maybe get a hardened nozzle, and with the exception of some goofy filaments with weird glitter, wood, or other shit included you'll probably never need to do much more than clear a jam. Most problems people run into with these machines is from not following simple instructions are going out of their way to try and "tune" shit to be a couple cubic mm per second faster, or using some weird filament(and I don't just mean CF or GF). It practically leaves nothing to discuss beyond the basics or people trying to turn them into an equivalent of a rice rocket.

As far as resin goes, there are a lot of bullshitters out there. The trouble with resin is that there are so many variables involved that can make the difference between a successful print, a failed print and a print that you would be proud of putting some paint on. You've got temperature, humidity, viscosity of the resin, lift speeds, lift height, the model itself (the thing that most people overlook), cure times, display brightness, supports, FEP tension, Z-axis wobble etc Anyone claiming they have a "one size fits all" solution to any resin printing problem is likely a liar. You might get a ballpark answer to any problem you have, but a lot of it is trial and error depending on the machine you're using, the resin you're using and the model you're trying to print. Even the slicer you use makes a difference depending on what printer you're using.

And this is the reason formlabs stuff starts at around $3,500, then another $150 for a liter of their resin, replacement resin vats instead of expecting people to swap film for another $100+, etc. A real "appliance" resin printer is probably never going to exist at a normal consumer level price(rather than being closer to lab equipment) without some drastic change in technology.

 

[Mr Clark]

Bambu just makes shit easy. Swapping nozzles is about as complicated as it gets and it works.

Spend maybe 30 mins findijg a nice detail printing profile but besides that...ready to go

 

[Muad'Dick]

The hobbyist grade stuff like creality ender series where you're setting the printer up out of the box, and then spending the next 3 weeks printing upgrades for it, then buying a bunch of replacement parts as upgrades again

This is the route I went down. I love fucking around with stuff like this. It took me about a month before I started getting results I was happy with. It has ended up becoming a bit of a Trigger's broom over the years, but when I see some of the results from these nontent creators it still holds up.

You raised a good point about the different types of filament. I think thats where a lot of people start seeing disasters. They'll make a few software tweaks when they start trying to print with some esoteric shit, but when it starts going wrong they'll overlook the basic stuff like how its actually fed. Just changing where your spool is located in relation to the feed can make all the difference.

And this is the reason formlabs stuff starts at around $3,500, then another $150 for a liter of their resin, replacement resin vats instead of expecting people to swap film for another $100+, etc.

Having been to my share of trade shows, I honestly think the ceiling has been hit in terms of detail and you're just going to see high grade components slowly drip feed into consumer level machines. When you look at the high end prototyping machines, there isn't a huge difference between them and what people are picking up on Amazon. They might have better motors and control boards, and they all have a much sturdier and/or better calibrated z-axis, but they're all doing fundamentally the same thing.

Maybe the advances will come with the resin. Light bleed is still a problem with most resins, but the more additives you have in a resin, the greater the chance of separation, which introduces another set of problems, like decreasing the lifespan of your FEP. In that respect you're in the same position as SLS printing where the medium itself is the thing that is holding you back.

Detail isn't a problem. I've printed things like heads and purity seals at 0.01mm and there is very little difference in quality between that and cast resin. Bumping up the resolution of the displays is hitting diminishing returns already and most of this is down to light bleed (again, a resin issue).

I think resin printing now is at the same point as SLS printing; you're just fighting physics.

Personally I enjoy taking items I come across and turn them into terrain.

Likewise mate, but 3D printing has added another dimension to it for me. I've designed a bunch of stuff to print and add on to my trash terrain to make it a bit more believable and add some detail. Things like operator panels, vents, gauges etc. Sure, you could source all of that from your bits box, but plastic terrain is pricey and you're rarely left with any spares on that front. The boxes, old PC case pieces, heatsink fans, plastic packaging inserts, gears taken out of old VHS machines, bass guitar strings etc take up most of the space in my hobby room. Its fucking shameful really, but it is fun.

 

[p1138]

Having been to my share of trade shows, I honestly think the ceiling has been hit in terms of detail and you're just going to see high grade components slowly drip feed into consumer level machines. When you look at the high end prototyping machines, there isn't a huge difference between them and what people are picking up on Amazon. They might have better motors and control boards, and they all have a much sturdier and/or better calibrated z-axis, but they're all doing fundamentally the same thing.

Maybe the advances will come with the resin. Light bleed is still a problem with most resins, but the more additives you have in a resin, the greater the chance of separation, which introduces another set of problems, like decreasing the lifespan of your FEP. In that respect you're in the same position as SLS printing where the medium itself is the thing that is holding you back.

Detail isn't a problem. I've printed things like heads and purity seals at 0.01mm and there is very little difference in quality between that and cast resin. Bumping up the resolution of the displays is hitting diminishing returns already and most of this is down to light bleed (again, a resin issue).

I think resin printing now is at the same point as SLS printing; you're just fighting physics.

Oh, detail-wise we've absolutely hit a cap with what can be done with resin. The key difference between the professional shit like formlabs and others boils down to the user experience. Formlabs or another $10,000 printer manufacturer isn't going to be expecting someone to fuck around punching holes through an FEP sheet and making sure they get the tension right. Those people are just selling a whole replacement tray because the people running those machines don't want to be bothered with it. Same with the overpriced proprietary resin, they aren't printing tabletop minis with that shit(unless maybe they're selling them because they're running a print farm I guess) because those people aren't the type who want to dick around tuning lift speed, exposure times, and so on constantly.

You raised a good point about the different types of filament. I think thats where a lot of people start seeing disasters. They'll make a few software tweaks when they start trying to print with some esoteric shit, but when it starts going wrong they'll overlook the basic stuff like how its actually fed. Just changing where your spool is located in relation to the feed can make all the difference.

It's thick viscous molten plastic at high temperature, and people think running random chunks of sawdust for "wood" filament through a .2mm nozzle is going to work just fine. I'm actually dumbfounded that Bambu released the H2D with that laser cutting head, because it just fills the chamber with soot and the machine doesn't have enough airflow to vent it out of the back before it has a chance to get everywhere including the electronics. There's better dedicated machines for that sort of shit, and I expect anyone trying to regularly use the laser cutter with something common like MDF is going to end up with a brick in a year. Even people on youtube who got the shit for free were questioning that. It's a step backwards.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

The only FLGS near me with free tables decided to move out of their relatively nice location to the middle of the city where there is no free parking and the crime rate is through the roof.

What few 40k players at the store were going to set up a casual 1k tournament that would've given me some motivation to finally pick up a paint brush. With the store moving that is now canceled and I'm let with no good options. Drive down to nigger central, pay per hour of parking and possibly get my catalytic converter stolen, drive up to the mall which has the gayest game store you'll ever see and also charges for table use, or drive out a half hour to a slightly less gay store that also charges for tables unless you pay a membership fee but at least they seem to host paint and pizza nights.

Maybe it's an excuse to justify my laziness and hatred of painting, but it really is demotivating to work on hobby projects when it's like a wargaming desert. I could have the nicest T'au army you've ever seen and I don't really have anywhere I feel I could reliably find people to play with.

 

[harbringer883]

The only FLGS near me with free tables decided to move out of their relatively nice location to the middle of the city where there is no free parking and the crime rate is through the roof.

What few 40k players at the store were going to set up a casual 1k tournament that would've given me some motivation to finally pick up a paint brush. With the store moving that is now canceled and I'm let with no good options. Drive down to nigger central, pay per hour of parking and possibly get my catalytic converter stolen, drive up to the mall which has the gayest game store you'll ever see and also charges for table use, or drive out a half hour to a slightly less gay store that also charges for tables unless you pay a membership fee but at least they seem to host paint and pizza nights.

Maybe it's an excuse to justify my laziness and hatred of painting, but it really is demotivating to work on hobby projects when it's like a wargaming desert. I could have the nicest T'au army you've ever seen and I don't really have anywhere I feel I could reliably find people to play with.

Lucky. All the stores around me either never host anything, or are just infested with trannies and neckbeards.

 

[creaturestorm]

Speaking of 3D printers, anyone here have some recommendations on sources to get better at them?

That I cant say, but when i first started I couldn't get a print to finish to save my life that is until is until I changed a few things:

-printed with professionally pre supported miniatures
-Cut all lift/movement speed of the printer in half
-Made sure the printer was on a level surface
-only printed around 75 degrees
-printed with quality resin

Also i destroyed my first printer because i had large support come off during the printing process. The print was fine fine, but having debri in the tank shattered the the LCD and ruptured the vat. Pay attention to your print, clean your tank.