Warhammer 40k

[Rick The Stick]

Winds of Plague has some good Death Guard lyrics. Who'da thunk. Or Night Lords. Depends on how you wanna read it.

Spoiler: Origins And Endings

I watched as the walls crumbled
Backed with a burning sky, Legions fell
They left with a mission complete
Genocide fulfilled; leave me for dead
Miscreation of revenge beats through my veins
Empires that once rivaled us fall from the sky
Beg for life as you return to the earth"

 

[harbringer883]

I kinda wish that genestealer cults were their own non-tyranid/non chaos thing

So, defeating the whole point of genestealer cults?

 

[Buckaroo]

The main issue with the kit is the lack of proper HQ and heavy weapon options.

If you or someone you know has a 3D printer, they have more options as STLs.
Heavy weapons, cavalry, and cavalry command. Somehow they never thought to make infantry command though.

 

[Michael Wade]

So, defeating the whole point of genestealer cults?

I like the idea of some becoming self aware and wanting to not get eaten but otherwise they would still be a subversive and dangerously evil entity.

 

[Judge Holden]

So, defeating the whole point of genestealer cults?

This is why I said kinda. The whole "freaky ass mutant/alien cult slowly infesting planetary society in order to summon their masters" pairs well with the Tyranids but I think it would also work in a vacuum. Basically instead of a Hive Fleet showing up once they gain critical mass, everyone on the planet just fucking vanishes and the planet is left some twisted nightmare in the wake of whatever they summoned or some other generic explicitly non chaos spoopy happening.

Again, I listed it as "Kinda" for a reason because this would just replace a perfectly logical combo with a mystery box, but I still think there could be some hypothetical niche for a freaky mutant faction and serving unknown agendas and masters that freak the hell out of everyone else in the setting because nobody has any idea what their deal is or what entities they are aligned with

 

[Humble Architect]

This is why I said kinda. The whole "freaky ass mutant/alien cult slowly infesting planetary society in order to summon their masters" pairs well with the Tyranids but I think it would also work in a vacuum. Basically instead of a Hive Fleet showing up once they gain critical mass, everyone on the planet just fucking vanishes and the planet is left some twisted nightmare in the wake of whatever they summoned or some other generic explicitly non chaos spoopy happening.

Again, I listed it as "Kinda" for a reason because this would just replace a perfectly logical combo with a mystery box, but I still think there could be some hypothetical niche for a freaky mutant faction and serving unknown agendas and masters that freak the hell out of everyone else in the setting because nobody has any idea what their deal is or what entities they are aligned with

I think the concept of Malstrains should be expanded, make it like the Genestealer version of CSM legions, like don’t make them separate armies but introduce “strains” with different modifiers for gameplay and variety for lore, with the Necromunda strain getting a new, official designation.

Like the “Nervosic” strain uses signals to reprogram humans en-masse and their Patriarch is an old-style obese one, because his cult grows through the sissy-hypnosis making them walk right into the lair. Necromorphs basically.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

I know it's not WH, but it is GW related... The newest edition of Blood Bowl goes up for presale today, and there have been a ton of "leaks" regarding the new ruleset. The biggest thing is the makeup of the teams. They've regiggered the rules so that max team positionals are based on what is already in each team box. According to GW, this is so you don't need to buy another box just for positionals. Since each team still has 16 max player slots, and team boxes are typically 12 to 14 players per box, you may still need to buy another box just for the lowly linemen, lol.

Naturally, most BB fans are screaming at the moon in anger over the changes. I guess we'll see how things play out in the coming months. A bigger concern for me is BB3, the current video game version of Blood Bowl. They plan on updating the game to its new ruleset sometime in 2026. I suspect that will be late 2026. And based on the developer's track record of every new team introduction causing a bunch of gameplay bugs, I suspect when the new rules update takes place, it's gonna be a shitshow, lol.

 

[p1138]

A bigger concern for me is BB3, the current video game version of Blood Bowl. They plan on updating the game to its new ruleset sometime in 2026. I suspect that will be late 2026. And based on the developer's track record of every new team introduction causing a bunch of gameplay bugs, I suspect when the new rules update takes place, it's gonna be a shitshow, lol.

This is the game that at launch, would show you end screens of other peoples games, glitch out and launch into the middle of someone else's game replacing a player, and all sorts of other idiotic shit without even making sure the MTX worked properly(most studios at least try to get that right). I'm surprised to hear anyone mention that game as if it's even playable.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

This is the game that at launch, would show you end screens of other peoples games, glitch out and launch into the middle of someone else's game replacing a player, and all sorts of other idiotic shit without even making sure the MTX worked properly(most studios at least try to get that right). I'm surprised to hear anyone mention that game as if it's even playable.

I got it almost a year after launch, so pretty much all of whatever launch bugs it had, got fixed, but each new team release, (with whatever team specific rules that apply) causes more bugs... not really the game breaking variety, but annoying nonetheless. This year they finally did a massive overhaul to the one player AI (which brought about its own bugs), so now it plays fairly competently, but not as good as a decent live coach.

With all the new rules/skills and team changes that are being done on TT, I predict a late 2026/early 2027 switchover date...and it will be a bug ridden mess, lol. I'm willing to be surprised, but I don't think I will be.

 

[Snekposter]

they just looked like generic Boer War miniatures with lasguns

What's wrong with that? 40k is at its worst when it tries to take itself too seriously. You don't need to go full Ciaphas Cain or anything but a bunch of impeccably dressed individuals carrying the Imperial Man's Burden to all the lightless corners of the galaxy is something that fits in perfectly. We already have both the Mordians and their dress uniforms and line formations and the impeccably mustachioed Lord General Freddie Mercury Castor eager to claim a Hive Tyrant's head for his trophy cabinet, after all.

Like come on, seriously, I'm one of the most anti-English people on the Farms and I still think this is a hell of a badass look.

The Tau are unironically perfect for spoopy flavoured 40k shit as viewpoint characters given their naivete and ignorance at the freaky shit infesting the setting which lends itself well for shit the reader can tell is heading to one of several literal hells while the characters blithely go about their jobs not knowing how hilariously fucked they are

Not anymore. The Tau have finally started to realize just how absolutely fucked the galaxy is, and not in a way the Ethereals can cover up easily thanks to that little experiment with Warp transit without any Gellar fields.

 

[Retreaded Tire]

I'm considering getting a kill team for xmas. Nemesis Claw would be my first pick followed by Plague Marines or Legionaires but I heard I'm SOL on that last one.
Here's the thing though. I have no one to play with, no nearby game stores, and I'm not thrilled with games like Shining Force (which I'm guessing is a rough equivalent).
I'm also not artsy so probably wouldn't even enjoy painting.
All I do is suck down the novels, they have been 99% of my reading for the past couple years.
Don't have money for a console and space marine 2. On top of that, the first one used to be like a dollar for Xbox 360 but when 2 came out everyone started charging 40-50 bucks for it.

I was gonna ask you guys to talk me out of it but putting my thoughts down here has done the job more or less

 

[Mr Clark]

I'm considering getting a kill team for xmas. Nemesis Claw would be my first pick followed by Plague Marines or Legionaires but I heard I'm SOL on that last one.
Here's the thing though. I have no one to play with, no nearby game stores, and I'm not thrilled with games like Shining Force (which I'm guessing is a rough equivalent).
I'm also not artsy so probably wouldn't even enjoy painting.
All I do is suck down the novels, they have been 99% of my reading for the past couple years.
Don't have money for a console and space marine 2. On top of that, the first one used to be like a dollar for Xbox 360 but when 2 came out everyone started charging 40-50 bucks for it.

I was gonna ask you guys to talk me out of it but putting my thoughts down here has done the job more or less

Buy whatever, build and paint them.

Dont need to play to get into the hobby. You can just collect.

Sonce you're an avid reader, nothing stopping you from getting models from your favourite books. Especially characters and other centrepieces

 

[Stab You in the Back]

• Current Necron schtick with the goofy tomb kings in space shennanigans would have fit a whole lot better back in the Rogue Trader era. I don't hate it but I really wish they found a way to make the offbrand Lovecraftian Oldcron schtick work, though I do hear those who say they would wind up just serving the same general role as the Tyranids as a character/personality bereft generic apocalypse force

I bought into Necrons because they were Tomb Kings in space back when there were no Tomb Kings being made. Stylistically, I preferred the Necrons when they were one basic model, but the leaders would have some additional accoutrement or powers to separate them from the normal soldiers. I like that Trazyn is just a normal dude, but with a cape and a staff. I can't imagine how many retarded tentacles and effects GW would slap on a Trazyn model if they remade him today.

 

[p1138]

I bought into Necrons because they were Tomb Kings in space back when there were no Tomb Kings being made. Stylistically, I preferred the Necrons when they were one basic model, but the leaders would have some additional accoutrement or powers to separate them from the normal soldiers. I like that Trazyn is just a normal dude, but with a cape and a staff. I can't imagine how many retarded tentacles and effects GW would slap on a Trazyn model if they remade him today.

Trazyn is still finecast and due for an update since they're discontinuing finecast. That said, Orikan and Imotekh both got plastic replacements recently and they're just fine. Szreas got his update a few years ago and now the model is a big monstrosity but his original model was a dumpy spider leg piece of shit to begin with.



If they keep that up with Trazyn it'll be fine.

I'm considering getting a kill team for xmas. Nemesis Claw would be my first pick followed by Plague Marines or Legionaires but I heard I'm SOL on that last one.
Here's the thing though. I have no one to play with, no nearby game stores, and I'm not thrilled with games like Shining Force (which I'm guessing is a rough equivalent).
I'm also not artsy so probably wouldn't even enjoy painting.
All I do is suck down the novels, they have been 99% of my reading for the past couple years.
Don't have money for a console and space marine 2. On top of that, the first one used to be like a dollar for Xbox 360 but when 2 came out everyone started charging 40-50 bucks for it.

I was gonna ask you guys to talk me out of it but putting my thoughts down here has done the job more or less

I'm not sure what Shining Force has to do with 40k in any regard whatsoever and yes I'm aware of Shining Force. At any rate, even without stores in the area, and no models you could try playing on tabletop sim if you're willing to put up with it's interface. Tons of people do it, just don't get caught up in the faggotry on discord looking for games.

If you want to try painting, then just try painting. If you really don't, then don't. No one ever said you have to consume literally every aspect of the shit. Don't have to play to paint minis either, for me I can shut most of my brain off and not worry about other dumb shit while painting, so even without a game I'd probably still do it to some extent.

 

[Retreaded Tire]

Shining Force doesn’t have anything to do with 40k but I figured it’s vaguely similar to kill team since it’s tactics with just a couple guys, as opposed to a huge army.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

I think the concept of Malstrains should be expanded, make it like the Genestealer version of CSM legions, like don’t make them separate armies but introduce “strains” with different modifiers for gameplay and variety for lore, with the Necromunda strain getting a new, official designation.

Like the “Nervosic” strain uses signals to reprogram humans en-masse and their Patriarch is an old-style obese one, because his cult grows through the sissy-hypnosis making them walk right into the lair. Necromorphs basically.

It would make sense for Necromunda entirely because the secundus hive has that tech priest who the GSC keep bringing back. A slight glitch or tinkering mistake would make sense

I'm considering getting a kill team for xmas. Nemesis Claw would be my first pick followed by Plague Marines or Legionaires but I heard I'm SOL on that last one.
Here's the thing though. I have no one to play with, no nearby game stores,

Nemesis Claw has been out of stock in the US since forever as far as I know. For Plague Marines I just have an assembled one from an older kill team version I used to play as Legionaires but now I can play them as Death Guard. I think all you’d need would be the standard box of plague marines and some champions to fill in. Space Marines are kind of funny in KT because if you don’t really like X rule set but have Space Marines with the loadout you can play whatever with minimal bitching.

There’s also a single person option you can use with kill team but that’ll mean you’ll have to buy another kill team plus terrain.

 

[Spilled Spaghett]

Current Necron schtick with the goofy tomb kings in space shennanigans would have fit a whole lot better back in the Rogue Trader era. I don't hate it but I really wish they found a way to make the offbrand Lovecraftian Oldcron schtick work, though I do hear those who say they would wind up just serving the same general role as the Tyranids as a character/personality bereft generic apocalypse force

As much as I love Necrons, I do lament how neutered they are. I enjoy that they have personality, but they are sold as this unstoppable force that can never truly die. But then all their extremely advanced tech is constantly failing/deteriorating, the rules for reanimation are flimsy at best, and no one can seem to agree on when this great awakening is supposed to be happening. I get that they can't actually be unstoppable because then they would instantly take over the galaxy and there would be no setting. My issue is there is still a lot of inconsistency to their lore. I think the biggest issue was they tried to explain too much about the Necrons and there was no way to both give a reasonable explanation for their tech, and also balance them around the rest of the galaxy.

• The Tau are unironically perfect for spoopy flavoured 40k shit as viewpoint characters given their naivete and ignorance at the freaky shit infesting the setting which lends itself well for shit the reader can tell is heading to one of several literal hells while the characters blithely go about their jobs not knowing how hilariously fucked they are

This is one of the biggest reasons I love the T'au because they are so unique in the setting. Everyone else, more or less, has this shit figured out. Seeing humans turn to chaos is both predictable and infuriating. I get that in universe chaos is supposed to be very hush hush so the average person probably doesn't understand chaos, but surely at some point when the walls started to bleed, and your skin rotted off, you would have realized that maybe these "Gods" are not all they're cracked up to be. The T'au though are absolutely the kind of bright eyed optimists who saw Kroot devouring the corpses of their enemies like savage animals and think "That's just their culture."

I was actually a bit disappointed in the Farsight novels how little chaos played a part. Normally I hate chaos, but it should be key to Farsight's story. He has some interaction sure. He fights them on several occasions, but ultimately I feel they don't contribute too much to his story. He gets some visions I guess but ultimately the story is too distracted on focused on the wider narrative of establishing and defending the Enclaves to worry about chaos's influence.

Shadowsun, surprisingly, had a more interesting story when it came to chaos. The 4th sphere fleet is brutally xenophobic because they were trapped in the warp. They don't fully understand it but they know that everyone but the T'au are like beacons to these warp creatures. Then you have Shadowsun who has to relearn these lessons that you can't beat chaos with a well ordered military campaign.

Spoiler: Spoiler for end of Shadowsun novel.

She eventually gets her ass saved by some T'au God/ warp entity and comes to the conclusion that maybe these things aren't all bad. She only knows that it claims to fight for The Greater Good, and that it saved her life. Will they be naive enough to ally themselves with a demon? What sort of trap could they be walking into?

 

[The Bogwater Flows On]

People who tell me they love Tau and then explain why always makes me dislike Tau even more...

 

[Judge Dredd]

I'm considering getting a kill team for xmas. Nemesis Claw would be my first pick followed by Plague Marines or Legionaires but I heard I'm SOL on that last one.

I don't have a killteam group either. I can recommend the starter box however. It's in the price bracket of a high end board game, and has a faction you like. And unlike most GW games, it's all inclusive so you can, in theory, introduce new players to it.

I'm not a painter either, but if your the kind that likes putting on some game with a podcast in the background, it can be good for that.

But stick to computer games. It's ultimately easier.

People who tell me they love Tau and then explain why always makes me dislike Tau even more...

Because you have to. Tau have baggage other factions don't. And while it's tempting to go into details about how rules, lore, and aesthetics are up for debate. Truth is Tau's real crime is being a "new" non-legacy faction. I'm still hearing the same bullshit excuses that I heard back in 2006.

I like Tau, or at least, I used to. Now they've been eroded by GW attempting to appease the complainers.

 

[Humble Architect]

People who tell me they love Tau and then explain why always makes me dislike Tau even more...

That’s how I feel about the fags who despise Chaos then explain why.

They’re also corpse-worshipping niggers so their opinion is shitcore by default.