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Still Anonymous For This said:
I enjoy Arch's lore videos. They're nice to have on in the background when I'm doing shit, tho his forced "lore voice" can get kind of grating.

Apparently the subreddit is pissed that he's espoused displeasure at the CCP and they're taking it as "sinophobism", which is a slick new trick by the CCP. Oh, you hate us? You must be racist!

My fiance is Han Chinese and I can affirm that the CCP are a bunch of faggots.
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Arch is pretty good. He needs to stop with the autistic rants though.
 
The verdict is in and it looks like the new Space Marines are kinda cheesy. Anyone have any hands-on experiences to confirm this?
 
uhh heard vermintide 2 was in a dark place, developers are being shits which is a bummer cause vermintide 1 was pretty good.
 
I think this is my favorite part of the space marine mythos. The way the lore convincingly describes how the marines would be viewed as living gods by the humans they're sworn to protect. I think this might be the most believable conception of superheroes that I've ever encountered.

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It also gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of vicarious pride, I'm not sure why.
 
Recoil said:
I think this is my favorite part of the space marine mythos. The way the lore convincingly describes how the marines would be viewed as living gods by the humans they're sworn to protect. I think this might be the most believable conception of superheroes that I've ever encountered.

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It also gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of vicarious pride, I'm not sure why.
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Its also interesting to see how the space marines view regular humans too. Whether they are like Titus here and respect their fellow servants of the emperor for standing against his foes despite their handicaps or if they look down upon them as lesser beings like Avitus from DOW 2.
 
Burned Man said:
Its also interesting to see how the space marines view regular humans too. Whether they are like Titus here and respect their fellow servants of the emperor for standing against his foes despite their handicaps or if they look down upon them as lesser beings like Avitus from DOW 2.
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It's obnoxious to me when people squabble about whether SM worship the Emperor or not, it's like asking an angel what its religion is.
 
Recoil said:
I think this is my favorite part of the space marine mythos. The way the lore convincingly describes how the marines would be viewed as living gods by the humans they're sworn to protect. I think this might be the most believable conception of superheroes that I've ever encountered.

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It also gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of vicarious pride, I'm not sure why.
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It also helps that Space Marines are effectively mythical figures to most of the Imperium. Lore generally states that there are only a few million Space Marines running around the galaxy at any given point. Which sounds like a lot, until you consider the fact that the Imperium has, by most estimates, roughly four quadrillion citizens. Against that number, the odds of your average hive dweller or Imperial Guardsman ever encountering a Space Marine are pretty small. A lot of feral and feudal worlds regard them as actual angels of the Emperor and worship them, and not all the chapters discourage this.

Burned Man said:
Its also interesting to see how the space marines view regular humans too. Whether they are like Titus here and respect their fellow servants of the emperor for standing against his foes despite their handicaps or if they look down upon them as lesser beings like Avitus from DOW 2.
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I like that aspect too. You've got the few bro-tier chapters like the Salamanders and the Lamenters, who will happily put their butts on the line for ordinary civilians, and then you've got chapters like the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists and a lot of others, who regard baseline humans as inherently inferior but still worthy of polite treatment. Below that are chapters like the Iron Hands, Flesh Tearers, and the Carcharodons, who tell the squishy normals "stay out of our way and you might not get a chainsword up your arse." Then there are the real dickwads like the Angels Excelsis, the Minotaurs, and the Marines Malevolent, who think baseline humans are garbage and treat them as expendable resources.
 
Second Missing Primarch said:
Or imagine a What If? where the Avengers were in the 40K 'verse.

Cap = Ultramarines, because they're the blue-clad poster boys
Iron Man = Iron Hands, because he's a tech-obsessed cyborg
Thor = Space Wolves, because he's already a Space Viking demigod who loves fighting and drinking
Hulk = Eversor assassin, because he's unstoppable and uncontrollable in rage mode
Hawkeye = Vindicare assassin
Nick Fury = Lord Inquisitor
Black Widow = Callidus assassin
War Machine = Also an Iron Hand
Dr. Strange = Grey Knights
Captain Marvel = Sister of Battle
Black Panther = Celestial Lions, because they're space Africans with a big cat motif
Spider-Man: Ultramarine Scout, because he's just trying to be the bestest good guy he can
Scarlet Witch = *BLAMMED* for being a witch/Imperial Guard Primaris psyker, depending on who found her first
Quicksilver = White Scars, because gotta go fast
Vision = *BLAMMED* for being an Abominable Intelligence
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Implying that Captain Marvel is actually useful and a team player . . .
 
Recoil said:
I think this is my favorite part of the space marine mythos. The way the lore convincingly describes how the marines would be viewed as living gods by the humans they're sworn to protect. I think this might be the most believable conception of superheroes that I've ever encountered.

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It also gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of vicarious pride, I'm not sure why.
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That's normal if you've been around an Ultramarine long enough.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Because the Imperium of man are false gods, come join the Necron and worship Mal'ladroth.
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Chaos is the only true answer.

Recoil said:
I think this is my favorite part of the space marine mythos. The way the lore convincingly describes how the marines would be viewed as living gods by the humans they're sworn to protect. I think this might be the most believable conception of superheroes that I've ever encountered.

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It also gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of vicarious pride, I'm not sure why.
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I don't even like the smurfs but I think this game was the last time anyone did anything with the franchise that "got" 40k. I don't just mean adaptations, I mean every single thing GW has put out since too.

Ted_Breakfast said:
It's obnoxious to me when people squabble about whether SM worship the Emperor or not, it's like asking an angel what its religion is.
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They obviously were originally (well, not originally originally in that weird proto 40k maybe) meant to and them being euphoric dudes that just really like the Emperor is pandering to the kind of people that shouldn't have been pandered to. Besides, angels absolutely worship God. Hell, the older parts of the Bible mention other gods worshiping God.
 
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Second Missing Primarch said:
It also helps that Space Marines are effectively mythical figures to most of the Imperium. Lore generally states that there are only a few million Space Marines running around the galaxy at any given point. Which sounds like a lot, until you consider the fact that the Imperium has, by most estimates, roughly four quadrillion citizens. Against that number, the odds of your average hive dweller or Imperial Guardsman ever encountering a Space Marine are pretty small. A lot of feral and feudal worlds regard them as actual angels of the Emperor and worship them, and not all the chapters discourage this.



I like that aspect too. You've got the few bro-tier chapters like the Salamanders and the Lamenters, who will happily put their butts on the line for ordinary civilians, and then you've got chapters like the Ultramarines and Imperial Fists and a lot of others, who regard baseline humans as inherently inferior but still worthy of polite treatment. Below that are chapters like the Iron Hands, Flesh Tearers, and the Carcharodons, who tell the squishy normals "stay out of our way and you might not get a chainsword up your arse." Then there are the real dickwads like the Angels Excelsis, the Minotaurs, and the Marines Malevolent, who think baseline humans are garbage and treat them as expendable resources.
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I quibble a bit with the Carcharodons described as collateral damage happy. The Star Phantoms or Angels Vermillion would be better choices since the Carcharodons don't really think that baseline humans get in the way, but that other chapters are unwilling to fight around civilians when fools and heretics need killing. The collateral damage on Zartak wasn't because they were trying for collateral damage, but because they were in extreme close quarters fighting people very happy to cause collateral damage.

Also I have an open offer of the following ebooks: Carcharodons Outer Dark, Brothers of the Snake, Crossfire, The Devastation of Baal, Carcharodons Red Tithe, and the Sisters of Battle Omnibus.
 
ADN_VIII said:
I quibble a bit with the Carcharodons described as collateral damage happy. The Star Phantoms or Angels Vermillion would be better choices since the Carcharodons don't really think that baseline humans get in the way, but that other chapters are unwilling to fight around civilians when fools and heretics need killing. The collateral damage on Zartak wasn't because they were trying for collateral damage, but because they were in extreme close quarters fighting people very happy to cause collateral damage.

Also I have an open offer of the following ebooks: Carcharodons Outer Dark, Brothers of the Snake, Crossfire, The Devastation of Baal, Carcharodons Red Tithe, and the Sisters of Battle Omnibus.
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I see your point, but the Carcharodons also don't seem to mind applying maximum overkill when they think it's necessary. For example, they blew up an entire world during the Badab War by destabilizing the fusion reactors powering all the major hives on the planet, which killed everyone still on the ground, loyalist and traitor. And in Outer Dark, when they realized the shrine planet was pretty heavily infested with genestealer cultists, they just kind of shrugged, said "fuck it, the Emperor will know his own", and purged everyone.
 
Second Missing Primarch said:
I see your point, but the Carcharodons also don't seem to mind applying maximum overkill when they think it's necessary. For example, they blew up an entire world during the Badab War by destabilizing the fusion reactors powering all the major hives on the planet, which killed everyone still on the ground, loyalist and traitor. And in Outer Dark, when they realized the shrine planet was pretty heavily infested with genestealer cultists, they just kind of shrugged, said "fuck it, the Emperor will know his own", and purged everyone.
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Badab was simply a measure of applying the most logical attack to the most critical weakness.

Piety V was because they realized that a vast majority of the people on the planet had been tainted and they didn't have the time to do gene scans to find Innocents. It's less "collateral damage is fun" as it is "there's no other way."
 
ADN_VIII said:
Badab was simply a measure of applying the most logical attack to the most critical weakness.

Piety V was because they realized that a vast majority of the people on the planet had been tainted and they didn't have the time to do gene scans to find Innocents. It's less "collateral damage is fun" as it is "there's no other way."
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Well, yes, I agree with you. I never said they thought collateral damage was fun, otherwise I'd have ranked them down with the Marines Malevolent and the other super-dick chapters. Unlike the MM, they'll at least warn you to get out while you can, but if you don't listen, then that's on you. One of them even told that one Inquisitor as much in Outer Dark. I don't remember exactly how it goes, but he said something like "if you know who we are, you know what happens to people who get in our way." They're like a force of nature. They've got a job to do, and they'll do whatever it takes to accomplish it. If you don't get out of the way they'll plow you under, not out of malice or anger, but because they won't let anything stop them. That's actually why they're one of my favorite chapters. Plus Tyberos is a fucking badass.
 
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