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Frank Spotnitz, who is going to be the producer for the Eisenhorn show, discusses it in a short clip. He talks about wanting to be faithful to the fans, but also compares 40K to Star Trek. I'm awaiting the show with a mix of unbridled excitement and deep trepidation. To be fair Spotnitz is an accomplished and talented producer but I just have to wonder if the inevitable sacrifices of canon that are necessary for transition to TV will activate my autism in a mild or a seriously deranged way.
 
I've always thought the HH could make for a better show than GoT but I dont think you can make 8ft transhumans look realistic outside of animation.
 
Heresy I know, but to be honest, in television, I wouldn't mind if the Space Marines weren't Space Marine height, but were just especially tall and swole dudes (possibly achieved with sfx/costume to be extra ridiculous) in power armour, something like Bane in The Dark Knight Rises. The height of SM isn't the hill I'd die on in terms of accuracy as long as the depiction of them otherwise is lore-accurate.
 
Inquisitor_BadAss said:
Horus Heresy would only work as a show since it’s Space Marine vs Space Marine any other story the space marines would effectively be the dragons out of game of thrones.
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I mean you have some non astartes story lines. The assassinorum task force. The dude who has the visions that cause Brann to go to Istvann V and rescue Corax. Euphrati Kheeler and the whole remembrancers. All the Alpha legion operatives fuckery. But yes primarily SM on SM.
 
Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
I've always thought the HH could make for a better show than GoT but I dont think you can make 8ft transhumans look realistic outside of animation.
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Nah, the HH really depends on you already knowing a LOT of context around the 40k universe and especially Space Marine legions culture and mindset. To have it made to tv/movies you'd need too much exposition.
Spooky Bones said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6XPzMr_Mia0
Frank Spotnitz, who is going to be the producer for the Eisenhorn show, discusses it in a short clip. He talks about wanting to be faithful to the fans, but also compares 40K to Star Trek. I'm awaiting the show with a mix of unbridled excitement and deep trepidation. To be fair Spotnitz is an accomplished and talented producer but I just have to wonder if the inevitable sacrifices of canon that are necessary for transition to TV will activate my autism in a mild or a seriously deranged way.
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I think the writers need to watch out from making Eisenhorn too "good"/subersive to the inquisition. While you can definitely write worlds in 40k that are similar to our own or even more advanced and somewhat more enlightened, you can't rewrite the inquisition to be a a good organization or inquisitors as caring too much about the little people and calling out others.
 
Imperialist #348 said:
how can you get stoked for something half dead?
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It was more getting stoked to be gaming again, as most of my gaming group scattered about the country, and has slowly migrated back to where we all came from. So from my perspective, it was reforming the old group, got a new edition we can all learn, new models to paint, etc...
 
Horus said:
It was more getting stoked to be gaming again, as most of my gaming group scattered about the country, and has slowly migrated back to where we all came from. So from my perspective, it was reforming the old group, got a new edition we can all learn, new models to paint, etc...
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Not to mention necrons effectively being able to make the Martians from war of the worlds now.
 
aah finally my 3rd and 6th edition rulebooks have arrived. and as expected the art is absolute kino.
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Spooky Bones said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6XPzMr_Mia0
Frank Spotnitz, who is going to be the producer for the Eisenhorn show, discusses it in a short clip. He talks about wanting to be faithful to the fans, but also compares 40K to Star Trek. I'm awaiting the show with a mix of unbridled excitement and deep trepidation. To be fair Spotnitz is an accomplished and talented producer but I just have to wonder if the inevitable sacrifices of canon that are necessary for transition to TV will activate my autism in a mild or a seriously deranged way.
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Gaunt's Ghosts or The Hero of The Imperium would make for a better tv show. They wont be able to reconcile the uh.... "morale intricacy" of Eisenhorn and the inquisition to a normal viewing audience without making it laughable in some form. The fact they compare it to Star Trek is particularly devastating because Eisenhorn and Star Trek's setting are about as hard set opposites as you can make. Eisenhorn himself isnt even particularly likable as a character, meaning that the show wont be faithful to that.

Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
Oh that's not gay at all. Why do we love TTS? For me is because it plays off the ridiculousness of certain characters.

I definitely think that could work.
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ScrappyLobsterchu said:
This may seem really gay but I have always thought that HH would be an awesome anime. Some of the characters are anime tier in there over the topness
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I've always been in the camp that the way to successfully show the 40k setting is in animation. People who watch animation tend to be at least slightly more open minded then run of the mill tv audience, and it would just be easier and more effective to portray most of the setting in that method. You cant make a convincing death guard or daemon in live action on a tv show budget. Imagine how bad Alpharius( BIG THINKIES?!?!?!) will look next to Eisenhorn in live action.


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Snekposter said:
So, time for some TTS Device inspired levity:
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No, I won't spoiler this shit. What are you, a heretic?
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Too clean. ESPECIALLY the Skitarii.

Love_Machine011 said:
But female Custodes essentially exist in the form of SoS.
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FeMaLe SpaCe MaRiNeS bAsIcAlLy ExIsT iN tHe FoRm Of SoB.

No amount of "What you want is already there, just with a different label" will never appease the Orks invaders.

Stab You in the Back said:
I'm not a fan of GW's current hero aesthetic. I'd prefer they do more subdued units until they fire the moron who decided every hero model needs to be 1) a diorama, or 2) standing on a fucking rock.
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GW has always made special characters stand out on the table. Remember back banners? Diorama bases are a better solution rather than the banner breaking off if the model is dropped. They could sure stand more variety, though.

Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
I've always thought the HH could make for a better show than GoT but I dont think you can make 8ft transhumans look realistic outside of animation.
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Cast retired wrestlers. Make stand on boxes.

Horus said:
I was getting stoked for 9th edition, but that whole statement about not being missed killed it for me, as well as the two guys whom I primarily play with.

You are right about the core fanbase leaving, however I dont think the franchise is going to die out. As a wargame it will dwindle, but as an IP it will continue to grow, because it is the next big untapped series of mega-blockbuster movies and marketing gimmicks waiting to happen.

GW already has a partnership with Marvel for comics, which means Disney will take the franchise, make it watchable for normies, dump a bunch of progressive bullshit into it, and produce about 20 PG-13 rated movies until it is run into the ground, at which point Disney will move on to consume the next hobby it can exploit.

Its unfortunate, because I have been into 40k (on and off) for over 20 years now, and this is just another hobby of mine that is now down the drain.
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It doesn't have to be. The biggest breath of fresh air from the new CEO has been a return to including rules with models. Just play the edition you like, and if something comes along that you want to incorporate it shouldn't be too hard.
 
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I wish there were rules about wreckage from tanks and what not. Just having them explode on a roll is kinda boring.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
Gaunt's Ghosts or The Hero of The Imperium would make for a better tv show. They wont be able to reconcile the uh.... "morale intricacy" of Eisenhorn and the inquisition to a normal viewing audience without making it laughable in some form. The fact they compare it to Star Trek is particularly devastating because Eisenhorn and Star Trek's setting are about as hard set opposites as you can make. Eisenhorn himself isnt even particularly likable as a character, meaning that the show wont be faithful to that.



I've always been in the camp that the way to successfully show the 40k setting is in animation. People who watch animation tend to be at least slightly more open minded then run of the mill tv audience, and it would just be easier and more effective to portray most of the setting in that method. You cant make a convincing death guard or daemon in live action on a tv show budget. Imagine how bad Alpharius( BIG THINKIES?!?!?!) will look next to Eisenhorn in live action.


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It's actually rather odd they haven't at this point. We've had starship troopers, halo and Macross each demonstrate the value of animation concerning military sci-fi yet it's honestly conspicuous how GW never made the jump. Then again, proper animation is expensive but then 3d animation like Dorohedoro, Guilty Gear and appleseed have illustrated a potentially cheap and effective method for showing the sheer scale of either Warhammer on a budget so there's no excuse.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
I wish there were rules about wreckage from tanks and what not. Just having them explode on a roll is kinda boring.
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They used to make craters back in older editions if they exploded or just sat on the table with a smoke marker when they were wrecked. They could bring that back.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I think the writers need to watch out from making Eisenhorn too "good"/subersive to the inquisition. While you can definitely write worlds in 40k that are similar to our own or even more advanced and somewhat more enlightened, you can't rewrite the inquisition to be a a good organization or inquisitors as caring too much about the little people and calling out others.
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I think an inquisior's adventures are a good place to start for a Warhammer series. Every episode can deal with a new threat or setting and still have an over arcing plot that gets revealed over time. I don't think they will portray the Inquisition as overly good but the fear for me is that they will go too far the other way with Inquisitor Dickbag being the big bad evil guy every other episode.
 
Anyone 3d print their armies? I've been seeing some outstanding resin printed Battlefleet Gothic stuff lately.
 
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