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@Polyboros2 the Brothers of the Snake book from Abnett is a mix of Xenos and Chaos, with one notable story being the squad up against a Khornate cult in a corn farming area. Yes, I'm sure you can guess the impending references. Also has a neat scene near the end where the shamelessly Greek Marines dispose of an Ork horde in a shamelessly Greek manner.
 
So, there is no way that the Lion isnt gonna be the next Primarch to return right? It seems obvious to me at this point. Sanguinius, Leman, Vulcan, and Corax are all set up in a way where they can just appear at this point. But the Lion is LITERALLY in the imperium. Sure no one really knows this at this point, but prank master Cypher will figure something out im sure. I think the Dark Angels need him at this point anyway. I dont see it being a Chaos Marine primarch, Sure Fulgrim talked some shit buy "Lol emperor's children doing anything".

Ill always keep a candle buring for the REAL first primarch tho, Valdor.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
So, there is no way that the Lion isnt gonna be the next Primarch to return right? It seems obvious to me at this point. Sanguinius, Leman, Vulcan, and Corax are all set up in a way where they can just appear at this point. But the Lion is LITERALLY in the imperium. Sure no one really knows this at this point, but prank master Cypher will figure something out im sure. I think the Dark Angels need him at this point anyway. I dont see it being a Chaos Marine primarch, Sure Fulgrim talked some shit buy "Lol emperor's children doing anything".

Ill always keep a candle buring for the REAL first primarch tho, Valdor.
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We have models for Mortarion, Roboute Gulliman, and Magnus in 40k.
If they do a traitor-loyalist-traitor Primarch release, then I guess The Lion would be the next sensible Primarch to return.
Honestly, who would suddenly reappear after him? Corvus Corax? Vulcan? Jaghatai Khan? Leman Russ?
Almost all of the traitor Primarchs are still alive (if you want to call that living), so GW can just pick one and say "Here you go!"
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I mean, the Slaaneshi stuff with the dude-harp was pretty... grim, which was a nice departure from how GW has usually done things for that deity. And with Fabulous Bill back in action, looks like we might actually see some shit from his former Legion. I mean, odds are they'll fuck it all up, but at least it will be something. Wonder if we'll see a Not-Dechala in 40k. The stuff Lorgar got shown about the Fall indicates we might see something to prove Chaos wasn't completely lying to him. Just mostly.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
We have models for Mortarion, Roboute Gulliman, and Magnus in 40k.
If they do a traitor-loyalist-traitor Primarch release, then I guess The Lion would be the next sensible Primarch to return.
Honestly, who would suddenly reappear after him? Corvus Corax? Vulcan? Jaghatai Khan? Leman Russ?
Almost all of the traitor Primarchs are still alive (if you want to call that living), so GW can just pick one and say "Here you go!"
<NB4 Lorgar's the next Daemon Primarch to have a model>
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It would be very interesting to see The Lion butt heads with Roboute for control, because from what I remember, they detest each other as much as you can without having open aggression. It would be the way to stall the story a bit, in a decent way at least.

The main thing though is that Roboute's FW model fucking blows. But how the fuck are you gonna top this in plastic?
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Snekposter said:
I mean, the Slaaneshi stuff with the dude-harp was pretty... grim, which was a nice departure from how GW has usually done things for that deity. And with Fabulous Bill back in action, looks like we might actually see some shit from his former Legion. I mean, odds are they'll fuck it all up, but at least it will be something. Wonder if we'll see a Not-Dechala in 40k. The stuff Lorgar got shown about the Fall indicates we might see something to prove Chaos wasn't completely lying to him. Just mostly.
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At this point the I dont see the children being loyal to Fulgrim whatsoever, can you honestly see Fabius actually bending the knee or having any respect whatsoever for him? The rest off the legion are now just raving war bands that just dont give a fuck really, they are just in it for drugs and sick jams.
 
Eh, I think I mentioned earlier that a good way to humble the UM would be to have all their Chaotic enemies decide to gang up and finally crush them them once and for all, as part of a mini-Black Crusade because literally the any thing any champion of Chaos can agree on is that the Ultramarines are a bunch of buzzkills. A good way to reintroduce the Lion would be for the DA and Successors show up in Legion form, all painted black (because no way are they getting to wear Caliban Green after the shit they've been pulling to cover up their secrets TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR UNENDING LOYALTY), fuck up the forces of Chaos, and the Lion meets with G-Man, starts shit with him about how he's finally gotten the Imperium all to himself, and then announces his Legion is off on a penitent Crusade for the shit they've done, and in the meantime save the galaxy's day as G-Man sits around with his thumb up his ass ruling like he always wanted to do. And yes, Luther was forgiven. He was also blammed for his treason.
 
Polyboros2 said:
I'm kinda looking for another path to go down in 40k lore, as I wait for Gaunt's Ghost 3 to come out in audio format.

I think I want to read some stuff focused on Deathwatch, as I enjoyed Ciaphas Cain's lack of Chaos antagonists after 9 books of Abnett(is that a trend of his, not writing with much Xenos?)

Is there any recommendations for the Alienhunters?
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I liked Gav Thorpe’s Path of the Eldar series. An interesting look at eldar culture and the challenges of the craftworld society.

Truthfully, there is less xenos literature because Imperium vs Chaos sells well.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Out of all the Daemon Primarchs, I'm interested in what Perturabo's model would be.
I haven't really seen the artwork of what his form looks like.
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Really him and Lorgar are the only ones that can be mildly interesting at this point since they are undivided. Angron is just an animal at this point. Fulgrim is... You know. Mortatian is just a seething cuck. While the only way I could find Magnus interesting is if he starts his redemption arc.

Snekposter said:
Eh, I think I mentioned earlier that a good way to humble the UM would be to have all their Chaotic enemies decide to gang up and finally crush them them once and for all, as part of a mini-Black Crusade because literally the any thing any champion of Chaos can agree on is that the Ultramarines are a bunch of buzzkills. A good way to reintroduce the Lion would be for the DA and Successors show up in Legion form, all painted black (because no way are they getting to wear Caliban Green after the shit they've been pulling to cover up their secrets TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR UNENDING LOYALTY), fuck up the forces of Chaos, and the Lion meets with G-Man, starts shit with him about how he's finally gotten the Imperium all to himself, and then announces his Legion is off on a penitent Crusade for the shit they've done, and in the meantime save the galaxy's day as G-Man sits around with his thumb up his ass ruling like he always wanted to do. And yes, Luther was forgiven. He was also blammed for his treason.
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Very bold of you to think that GW would let the boys in blue get the smack down like that. But I do like the idea.
 
Polyboros2 said:
I'm kinda looking for another path to go down in 40k lore, as I wait for Gaunt's Ghost 3 to come out in audio format.

I think I want to read some stuff focused on Deathwatch, as I enjoyed Ciaphas Cain's lack of Chaos antagonists after 9 books of Abnett(is that a trend of his, not writing with much Xenos?)

Is there any recommendations for the Alienhunters?
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Steve Parker's Deathwatch books are pretty decent, and I've also heard good things about the Deathwatch omnibus.
 
I will only accept a Magnus redemption arc if it begins with the Emperor and Tzeentch playing Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip-Poker for his soul.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
So, there is no way that the Lion isnt gonna be the next Primarch to return right? It seems obvious to me at this point. Sanguinius, Leman, Vulcan, and Corax are all set up in a way where they can just appear at this point. But the Lion is LITERALLY in the imperium. Sure no one really knows this at this point, but prank master Cypher will figure something out im sure. I think the Dark Angels need him at this point anyway. I dont see it being a Chaos Marine primarch, Sure Fulgrim talked some shit buy "Lol emperor's children doing anything".

Ill always keep a candle buring for the REAL first primarch tho, Valdor.
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I think the rumor mill is that Fulgrim will be the next Primarch active in 40k, though it sounds like Lion may not be to far behind as the Fallen are gathering around someone in the Eye. I personally think if the Dark Angel's secret gets outed, the Inquisition wants some answers, Lion steps up, says fuck you, and the Dark Angels fuck off to be a non-imperium, but non-chaos renegade chapter(maybe also Primaris free, so old school marines have an unique army)
 
Love_Machine011 said:
The main thing though is that Roboute's FW model fucking blows. But how the fuck are you gonna top this in plastic?
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also what are peoples thoughts on perpetuals? cause having glanced over erda and other perps they seem like more and more bullshit, hell the only one i like apart from emps and the primarchs was Ollanius,and that was before him being made a perp.
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Polyboros2 said:
I think the rumor mill is that Fulgrim will be the next Primarch active in 40k, though it sounds like Lion may not be to far behind as the Fallen are gathering around someone in the Eye. I personally think if the Dark Angel's secret gets outed, the Inquisition wants some answers, Lion steps up, says fuck you, and the Dark Angels fuck off to be a non-imperium, but non-chaos renegade chapter(maybe also Primaris free, so old school marines have an unique army)
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Problem with that is they just made a huge show of having one of the DA characters go past the Rubicon and be begrudgingly accepted by the DA leadership. So I could see there being some sort of incident between the DA and Inquisition, and the Lion could come back in the middle of that, but I can't see the Inquisition being able to disown an entire first founding chapter. But them becoming some sort of Firstborn exclusive? Eh.

If I wasn't absolutely convinced that they were squatting the Firstborn, I'd say we might start to see chapters that were Firstborn exclusive and rejected the Primaris, much like we know there are Primaris only chapters, but...

Ultimately, I just want to see some Primaris in Mk4/5/6/7/8 armor kits. That's the big thing I don't like about them. Firstborn appear 40k because 40k is a very lived in universe. Primaris appear too new and uniform.
 
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Ultimately, I just want to see some Primaris in Mk4/5/6/7/8 armor kits. That's the big thing I don't like about them. Firstborn appear 40k because 40k is a very lived in universe. Primaris appear too new and uniform.
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i highly doubt that will ever happen, given the tech stagnancy imperium, then again im probably wrong given the fact the primaris got all these shiny new toys out of the plot armour bullshit that is Cawl, seriously if any other primarchs come back i can see him getting his cyber skull crushed
 
Since Sons of the Phoenix are a thing, I would like to see some primaris chapters that are descended from traitor Primarchs. Could have some stories about crisis of identity and heritage, anything that does away with Ward's "Muh Spiritual Liege."

That, and it would give me a reason to use my homebrew World Eaters successor chapter I've been working on.
 
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Since Sons of the Phoenix are a thing, I would like to see some primaris chapters that are descended from traitor Primarchs. Could have some stories about crisis of identity and heritage, anything that does away with Ward's "Muh Spiritual Liege."

That, and it would give me a reason to use my homebrew World Eaters successor chapter I've been working on.
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Beyond Ward, it's ADB. He's the reason there's no traitor legion loyalists, supposedly. Only his precious widdle chaos marines (who were totally in the right and the emperor suxxors) can be special. All others must be boring NPCs that die to his awesomeness!
 
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Problem with that is they just made a huge show of having one of the DA characters go past the Rubicon and be begrudgingly accepted by the DA leadership. So I could see there being some sort of incident between the DA and Inquisition, and the Lion could come back in the middle of that, but I can't see the Inquisition being able to disown an entire first founding chapter. But them becoming some sort of Firstborn exclusive? Eh.

If I wasn't absolutely convinced that they were squatting the Firstborn, I'd say we might start to see chapters that were Firstborn exclusive and rejected the Primaris, much like we know there are Primaris only chapters, but...
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IIRC it's not Rubicon Primaris in on the Fallen, they let Cawl boys in to their chapter secret. Something a lot of people found very out of character. In my idea that's the breaking point. Girlyman Indominus Crusade Primaris rat out the Dark Angels, with the best of intentions (so that the Fallen can be sought out better. To be fair I don't like the Dark Angels). The Inquisiton tells them they better come and answer some questions and/or face sanction. Meanwhile, the Fallen start cosplaying Dark Angels raiding worlds and leaving Dark Angel gene seeded corpses behind.

Tensions ramp up, the Inquisition tries to swing a big dick around up get the Dark Angels to bend the knee. Lion answers them on the vox, telling them to suck his trans-transhuman super cock and the fucking Rock jumps into the warp.

Lion pulls in every chapter that'll abandon their heraldry and become Dark Angels again, kicks out/kills the Primaris, and tells the Imperium he's restarting the Great Crusade, he's doing what he wants and will only answer to the Emporer in person telling him to behave. He had his own plans like Girlyman and had supply and logistics to operate independent of the Imperium set up for the last few thousand years.

And like that, we have a 30k Horus Heresy themed army in 9th. And a place for OG Astartes as the main line becomes (almost)entirely Primaris.
 
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