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Imperial Citizen said:
Don’t know if it is just me, but I have gotten good shelf life out of citadel paints. I’m using paints that are at least 8 years old and they still work well.
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That reminds me, I've still got about a quarter pot of still perfectly useable Amethyst Purple from 1991 somewhere. The old pots actually worked. Unlike the shitty twistcap bullshit that seemed half dried out even direct from the factory.
 
Twinkletard said:
Okay, you bastards have officially made me want to get back into 40K. I was checking out their Citadel (is it even called that anymore?) paint and about had a heart attack when I saw the prices on this stuff.

4-7 bucks for 12 ml? Am I seeing this right? Is this just the online store prices, and something I can get for less if I go to a store? That's kinda nuts. Everything on their website is pretty darned expensive, but the models/figures look better than I remember.

I've been looking around online for alternatives. I have a bunch of tamiya paint, but don't see people using that. I do see people using vallejo though.
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Welcome back.
Your wallet's pain will please Slaanesh.
 
People on the internet use the word 'fucking' so much much that it's lost all meaning and emotional weight. I woke up at fucking 7:30 and had a bowl of fucking Honey Nut Cheerios with fucking skim milk. It was fucking okay. This is the world we live in.

But I say this with all earnestness: the cover of the upcoming Marvel 40k comic is fucking ugly.
 
I just finished reading the first trilogy of the Horus Heresy series (my first dive into 40k) and enjoyed them quite a bit and feel like burning through some more over summer. Is the first trilogy the standard of quality for the entire Heresy series or does it go downhill from there?

Also are there any recommendations for fiction not involving Space Marines? I heard most of the Eldar stuff is pretty terrible.
 
Not Even Twice said:
I just finished reading the first trilogy of the Horus Heresy series (my first dive into 40k) and enjoyed them quite a bit and feel like burning through some more over summer. Is the first trilogy the standard of quality for the entire Heresy series or does it go downhill from there?

Also are there any recommendations for fiction not involving Space Marines? I heard most of the Eldar stuff is pretty terrible.
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I've only read about as much as you have, but from what I've heard the rest of it is inconsistent but mostly positive. Definitely stinkers and low points, but they're is a reason people are still buying 50-60 books into a series.

For non-Astartes Imperium stuff the big go to is Eisenhorn series. Written by one of their best authors, Dan Abnett, who wrote the first Horus Heresy novel. Or Guant's Ghosts, also by Abnett, for Imperial Guard.
 
Ted_Breakfast said:
But I say this with all earnestness: the cover of the upcoming Marvel 40k comic is fucking ugly.
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>Kieron Gillen
Truly, we edge closer to the grimdark.
Those of us who are more informed of ins and outs of the comics industry know of Gillen's reputation.

Not Even Twice said:
I just finished reading the first trilogy of the Horus Heresy series (my first dive into 40k) and enjoyed them quite a bit and feel like burning through some more over summer. Is the first trilogy the standard of quality for the entire Heresy series or does it go downhill from there?
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I've heard that The First Heretic has problems. Aaron Dembski-Bowden tends to write Chaos well and sometimes Imperium troops (see Helsreach), but he has a hateboner for The Emperor. The actions by Big E in the novel are so out of character and Bowden did not give adequate explanations as to why they were made. That job was left to authors to fill out later.
Some of the short story compilations contain garbage, too.
 
Not Even Twice said:
I just finished reading the first trilogy of the Horus Heresy series (my first dive into 40k) and enjoyed them quite a bit and feel like burning through some more over summer. Is the first trilogy the standard of quality for the entire Heresy series or does it go downhill from there?

Also are there any recommendations for fiction not involving Space Marines? I heard most of the Eldar stuff is pretty terrible.
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Can't really help you with non Space Marine stuff, but for Horus Heresy, these are all worth reading:

Know No Fear (Dan Abnett unleashes his inner Michael Bay on the Battle of Calth and it's bitchin')
Scars and The Path of Heaven (White Scars get some characterization and are pretty cool)
Fear to Tread (Blood Angels vs Khornate daemons)
The Unremembered Empire (Guilliman builds a backup Imperium around Macragge while bickering with the Lion and fighting Konrad Curze)
Pharos (Loyalist Iron Warrior and an Imperial Fist being unlikely bros and Smurfs vs Night Lords)
The Buried Dagger (Death Guard falls to Nurgle)
Legion (Alpha Legion fucks shit up in Space Afghanistan)
Praetorian of Dorn (Imperial Fists vs Alpha Legion)
Vulkan Lives, Deathfire, and Old Earth (Salamanders go on a galaxy-spanning road trip to find and resurrect their primarch)

The Siege of Terra series has been pretty good so far also.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
I've heard that The First Heretic has problems. Aaron Dembski-Bowden tends to write Chaos well
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id recommend listening/reading talon of horus and black legion, the way he writes them seems very off to me. i dont what happened to making chaos be the evil of the setting but the way he wrote them makes em seem like their a kind of grey but not evil, which when looking back on how the black legion used to look/feel seems very stupid.
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not that first heretic isnt a good book, my problems stem more from his writing of the black legion and blatant bias when ever theres a scene with emps.
 
Not Even Twice said:
I just finished reading the first trilogy of the Horus Heresy series (my first dive into 40k) and enjoyed them quite a bit and feel like burning through some more over summer. Is the first trilogy the standard of quality for the entire Heresy series or does it go downhill from there?

Also are there any recommendations for fiction not involving Space Marines? I heard most of the Eldar stuff is pretty terrible.
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I’d recommend Dead Men Walking by Steve Lyons. It’s Death Korps of Krieg versus Necrons.
 
Imperialist #348 said:
id recommend listening/reading talon of horus and black legion, the way he writes them seems very off to me. i dont what happened to making chaos be the evil of the setting but the way he wrote them makes em seem like their a kind of grey but not evil, which when looking back on how the black legion used to look/feel seems very stupid.
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not that first heretic isnt a good book, my problems stem more from his writing of the black legion and blatant bias when ever theres a scene with emps.
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Yeah, the First Heretic is well written but agree ADB has daddy issues or 3edgy atheism or something that spill over into his treatment of the Emperor. I'd recommend his Night Lords trilogy as well, strong stuff and yes doesn't make them one dimensionally evil either which actually winds up working. I like a number of Chaos works that do that including the Fabius Bile works (although he's technically not a Chaos worshipper strictly speaking and the hard-core Slaaneshis wind up looking evil in comparison) just for the sake of depth of character if nothing else.
 
Failed Lurker said:
Chris Wraight's Vaults of Terra series is shaping up quite well. Focuses on different events around the time of the Fall of Cadia/Indominus Crusade.
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Second this. Like Abnett's Eisenhorn and Ravenor books, these works focus on inquisitors and are almost detective like, set away from the front lines and less about armies and engineered superhuman and more what Abnett calls "domestic 40k."
 
Twinkletard said:
Okay, you bastards have officially made me want to get back into 40K. I was checking out their Citadel (is it even called that anymore?) paint and about had a heart attack when I saw the prices on this stuff.

4-7 bucks for 12 ml? Am I seeing this right? Is this just the online store prices, and something I can get for less if I go to a store? That's kinda nuts. Everything on their website is pretty darned expensive, but the models/figures look better than I remember.

I've been looking around online for alternatives. I have a bunch of tamiya paint, but don't see people using that. I do see people using vallejo though.
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Dollar store paints are just as good. Tamaya is good if you need a rattle-can for something.

Edit: Sure hope you're not planning to jump on board the new bright-hammer train though. You better be playing some older edition.
 
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Second Missing Primarch said:
Can't really help you with non Space Marine stuff, but for Horus Heresy, these are all worth reading:

Know No Fear (Dan Abnett unleashes his inner Michael Bay on the Battle of Calth and it's bitchin')
Scars and The Path of Heaven (White Scars get some characterization and are pretty cool)
Fear to Tread (Blood Angels vs Khornate daemons)
The Unremembered Empire (Guilliman builds a backup Imperium around Macragge while bickering with the Lion and fighting Konrad Curze)
Pharos (Loyalist Iron Warrior and an Imperial Fist being unlikely bros and Smurfs vs Night Lords)
The Buried Dagger (Death Guard falls to Nurgle)
Legion (Alpha Legion fucks shit up in Space Afghanistan)
Praetorian of Dorn (Imperial Fists vs Alpha Legion)
Vulkan Lives, Deathfire, and Old Earth (Salamanders go on a galaxy-spanning road trip to find and resurrect their primarch)

The Siege of Terra series has been pretty good so far also.
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I've read a bit of the Heresy series, and am currently reading the Siege series. I admit that I really like Wolfsbane, especially the scene with Russ and Malcador on Terra. Personally I have a weakness for the Wolves and their primarch.
 
Matthew216 said:
I've read a bit of the Heresy series, and am currently reading the Siege series. I admit that I really like Wolfsbane, especially the scene with Russ and Malcador on Terra. Personally I have a weakness for the Wolves and their primarch.
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There are so many books in the series I didn't list all the ones I liked, but yeah, Wolfsbane is pretty good too.
 
Making my way through The Primarchs now, reading the Feat of Iron novella.

After this I start Fear to Tread. I hope it's good, it's the first Blood Angels book in the HH.
 
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