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And that's ultimately what's going to happen. Eventually, when they get around to Black Legion again, they'll make a new basic (as opposed to one of the 4 gods flavoured) CSM kit, and said CSM kit will probably be Primaris Scale.

I'm hoping it'll be something a little bit more flavorful than just, Primaris but uglier. Like Bile can't just 1 to 1 remake them.
 
I'm hoping it'll be something a little bit more flavorful than just, Primaris but uglier. Like Bile can't just 1 to 1 remake them.

I want Primaris, but with the original grimdark industrial feel that 40k is supposed to have. That's my big problem with the line. It's "too clean." Too "techy." We're talking about an empire whose most common tank was literally a hypertech snow plow but it was all they had so fuckit, it's a tank now.

It's almost funny just how hard the last 2 books of PA were paved over. WotS actually had good rules in it tho. Pariah seems like a massive nothing burger. Sure we can blame it on the 'rona. But still.

Without the Commie Cough, it would have been much better. WoTS gets everyone hyped up, Pariah spends 2-3 months being slowly released, then whammo, Silent King, 9th Edition, VOID DRAGON IS BREAKING OUT.

They should have pushed 9E back to next year or Christmas. I got the impression they were trying not to adjust things too much.
 
Alright so all the stuff (crimson spear and indomitus) I just bought together for BA I got
1x Prim Lieuenant
1x Prim Captain
1x BA Cap in Terminator armor.
1x Chaplain
1x BA Chaplain with jump back
1x Bladeguard ancient
3x Bladeguard Veterans
5x Death Company
5x Sanguinary guard
3x Prime bikes
3x Eradicators
10x Assault Intercessors
10x Primaris Intercessors
1x Baal predator

My plan to still get list is
1x Mephiston
1x Dante
1x Slam Captain
10x Sanguinary Guard
10x Death company
1x Death Company dreadnaught.
1x Techmarine( or primaris techmarine)
1x Devastator squad(maybe???)
1x BA Tactical Squad(maybe???)
???x Assault Intercessors


So I ask space marine fags, what should I add? Anything I shouldnt buy?
 
I just bought a Indomitus box because I hate money and think Necrons are cool. My only exposure to 40k has been memes and lore, although I helped a buddy assemble a Lizardman army for Fantasy back in the day.

Is the Indomitus box going to be enough to have a decent game between the forces? Also, how much/little painting skill do you need to make them look halfway presentable? I hope the answer is little to none because my artistic skills are in the negative.
 
I just bought a Indomitus box because I hate money and think Necrons are cool. My only exposure to 40k has been memes and lore, although I helped a buddy assemble a Lizardman army for Fantasy back in the day.

Is the Indomitus box going to be enough to have a decent game between the forces? Also, how much/little painting skill do you need to make them look halfway presentable? I hope the answer is little to none because my artistic skills are in the negative.
You can just dip necrons in a metallic color to look passable. Space marines will obviously be more involved.

Also yes you can play with whats just in the box, but most times it will come down to who goes first.
 
Alright so all the stuff (crimson spear and indomitus) I just bought together for BA I got
1x Prim Lieuenant
1x Prim Captain
1x BA Cap in Terminator armor.
1x Chaplain
1x BA Chaplain with jump back
1x Bladeguard ancient
3x Bladeguard Veterans
5x Death Company
5x Sanguinary guard
3x Prime bikes
3x Eradicators
10x Assault Intercessors
10x Primaris Intercessors
1x Baal predator

My plan to still get list is
1x Mephiston
1x Dante
1x Slam Captain
10x Sanguinary Guard
10x Death company
1x Death Company dreadnaught.
1x Techmarine( or primaris techmarine)
1x Devastator squad(maybe???)
1x BA Tactical Squad(maybe???)
???x Assault Intercessors


So I ask space marine fags, what should I add? Anything I shouldnt buy?
I’d say get the tactical squad for at least one reason: make characters out of them. You want a slam captain? Clip the wings off of a sanguinary guard and take the thunder hammer from your Death company or your captain.

Using bits to make servo arms, convert the Bladeguard Ancient into a pseudo techmarine.

I’d suggest cutting the extra death company and sanguinary guard and swapping the dread for one with guns.

You’ve got the infantry and the heroes. Now you need armor. Transports like the Impulsor, Repulsor for Primaris and a Stormraven or rhinos for firstborn.
 
I just bought a Indomitus box because I hate money and think Necrons are cool. My only exposure to 40k has been memes and lore, although I helped a buddy assemble a Lizardman army for Fantasy back in the day.

Is the Indomitus box going to be enough to have a decent game between the forces? Also, how much/little painting skill do you need to make them look halfway presentable? I hope the answer is little to none because my artistic skills are in the negative.

Man, you can just paint a Necron black and drybrush silver over it. It's quite possibly the easiest army for beginners to paint.
 
I’d say get the tactical squad for at least one reason: make characters out of them. You want a slam captain? Clip the wings off of a sanguinary guard and take the thunder hammer from your Death company or your captain.

Using bits to make servo arms, convert the Bladeguard Ancient into a pseudo techmarine.

I’d suggest cutting the extra death company and sanguinary guard and swapping the dread for one with guns.

You’ve got the infantry and the heroes. Now you need armor. Transports like the Impulsor, Repulsor for Primaris and a Stormraven or rhinos for firstborn.
Lol guns and armor are for PUSSIES.
 
Lol guns and armor are for PUSSIES.
Take this advice from a player that has done Khorne Spam, that +3 armor save won’t do shit. You are still T4, you will die to mass gunfire. Get some guns so that the enemy shoots at them on turn 1. Use the transports to charge first so that they risk their overwatch.

Plus a few lascannons into a Knight, a Leman Russ, or a Replusor Executioner will nip their blast weapons in the bud.
 
Alright so all the stuff (crimson spear and indomitus) I just bought together for BA I got
1x Prim Lieuenant
1x Prim Captain
1x BA Cap in Terminator armor.
1x Chaplain
1x BA Chaplain with jump back
1x Bladeguard ancient
3x Bladeguard Veterans
5x Death Company
5x Sanguinary guard
3x Prime bikes
3x Eradicators
10x Assault Intercessors
10x Primaris Intercessors
1x Baal predator

My plan to still get list is
1x Mephiston
1x Dante
1x Slam Captain
10x Sanguinary Guard
10x Death company
1x Death Company dreadnaught.
1x Techmarine( or primaris techmarine)
1x Devastator squad(maybe???)
1x BA Tactical Squad(maybe???)
???x Assault Intercessors


So I ask space marine fags, what should I add? Anything I shouldnt buy?

You should get a librarian dreadnaught as well.
 
As far as I heard, Bile is studying the Primaris, bit no confirmation of them being a thing yet.

Personally I hope they are Black Legion's thing, and they continue on tbe track that Thousand Sons and Death Guard have of each traitor Legion having their own flavor of Astartes, with the Emporer's Children getting it next with Fulgrim's new model and expansion of the Noise Marines. Have the butcher's nails become demons and give the World Eaters something more than just Khorne Berserkers, have the Iron Warriors get more tech Hersey stuff like the Obliterator virus.

I don't know what to do with the Word Bearers, just squat them, #lorgardideverythingwrong

I personally was hoping for the Alpha Legion to roll out with Primaris.
Though, I think the Alpha Legion should get special infantry units like Alpha Legion "Operatives" or "Saboteurs." Fluff-wise, the Alpha Legion does take time to train their non-Astartes agents to be more than just cannon fodder so why not have troops unique to the Alpha Legion that reflects this?
I figure these specialist units should be stronger than the run-of-the-mill Chaos Cultists (with more weapon options to boot) and be placed between Imperial Guards and Tempestus Scions in terms of point value.

As for Word Bearers, I agree with the following:
Word Bearers should be able to take Possessed as troops and synergize with daemons since they're the ones who are up to their eyeballs with Chaos.

The Daemonkin Ritualists Specialist Detachments breathed new life into Word Bearer armies and the Possessed and Greater Possessed SHOULD be their shock troops, much like the Gal Vorbak during the Horus Heresy.
 
Alright so all the stuff (crimson spear and indomitus) I just bought together for BA I got
1x Prim Lieuenant
1x Prim Captain
1x BA Cap in Terminator armor.
1x Chaplain
1x BA Chaplain with jump back
1x Bladeguard ancient
3x Bladeguard Veterans
5x Death Company
5x Sanguinary guard
3x Prime bikes
3x Eradicators
10x Assault Intercessors
10x Primaris Intercessors
1x Baal predator

My plan to still get list is
1x Mephiston
1x Dante
1x Slam Captain
10x Sanguinary Guard
10x Death company
1x Death Company dreadnaught.
1x Techmarine( or primaris techmarine)
1x Devastator squad(maybe???)
1x BA Tactical Squad(maybe???)
???x Assault Intercessors


So I ask space marine fags, what should I add? Anything I shouldnt buy?
Definitely a dreadnought. Maybe aggressors if you want more gun line to supplement your close combat bois.
 
My plan to still get list is
1x Mephiston
1x Dante
1x Slam Captain
10x Sanguinary Guard
10x Death company
1x Death Company dreadnaught.
1x Techmarine( or primaris techmarine)
1x Devastator squad(maybe???)
1x BA Tactical Squad(maybe???)
???x Assault Intercessors


So I ask space marine fags, what should I add? Anything I shouldnt buy?
I've been putting together a BA army this year so I'll repeat some of the advice I've heard while doing research.

Firstly, definitely ditch the devastators and Tac squads. They're not worth the cost anymore and other units fill their role better. I would swap them for Intercessors, they look quite good in 9th and will hold up your backline while your Sang guard holds objectives (very durable compared to DC) and take on elites. Swap the DC dread for a Librarian dread. The DC dread is too slow and being melee only = it will get dumpstered long before it closes into melee. The good thing about Lib dreads is you can get that fucker into close combat very quickly via relic. If you want a shooty dread, Leviathan dreads with duel storm cannon arrays have been recommended, those will be pricey in 9th but with small boards they will be able to cover a lot. Also, consider an Invictor warsuit, the changes made them make them very appealing too.

The techmarine, I'm not sure how it will play out in 9th with the bigger focus on vehicles but generally they aren't very efficient to bring along either, especially since your list isn't vehicle heavy. I'm not really sure Assault Intercessors will mesh well into a BA army either given they can't take jumppacks, and BA is all about the jumpies. They will be a bit slow, the point space would be better applied to more DC or Sang. Since you are running DC, I would also look into getting Lemartes as he can buff them. You might also look into the Sanguinor to buff the SGs.

As i've had it explained to me, you want a lot of DC against horde armies (they have a lot of hits and rerolls), a lot of SG for elite-type armies. In high point games where you can bring both, use DC to hit the enemy early and make them deal with them along with the Lib dread, then move SG up to take out the biggest threats while everyone else secures objectives. DC is the hammer to smash the enemy initially, SG is the dagger that makes the lethal cuts.

For 9th ed it's looking like a mix of melee and shootie is going to be a strong composition. But until a lot of 9th edition games are played and the rules are more fleshed out it's a bit speculative.

Edit: One more thing, Mephiston got hit with a pretty big point increase so it's looking like swapping in the Lib Dread for him (you generally want one or the other) is going to be the way we go. Unfortunate, he's a cool ass character.
 
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Anybody familiar with modern GW US pricing: what do you expect the necron force in the set would cost on its own without the warriors, swarms, and cryptothralls? I'm considering getting the set but I last played 3e necrons so I don't need or want more warriors or swarms and the angry barrels look stupid to me.
 
That guy who keeps sperging out in /tg/ about 2e tyranids or whatever makes me hope that they get nerfed even more.
 
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