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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Are there Firstborn Bladeguards?
I thought that was a Primaris unit?
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A super elite melee unit is a good stand in for Bladeguards, even if they are Firstborn. Especially if they are a cool looking unit. I saw 30k White Scars Ebon Keshig used as a stand in for Bladeguard Veterans on a Mini War Gaming Batrep.


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I'm a big fan of the Rule of Cool.
 
I still don't even really know what a bladeguard veteran is. Is it like a vanguard veteran, or a sternguard veteran? I guess that makes sense.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
I still don't even really know what a bladeguard veteran is. Is it like a vanguard veteran, or a sternguard veteran? I guess that makes sense.
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That's a good fucking question. At first I was thinking, that was just what First Company Primaris called themselves.
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But no, we got first company intercessors. Well maybe they are the Primaris equivalent of Vanguard Veterans...

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Except this guy right here, no blade, no guard, just a bolt pistol and a standard.

So, it's whatever Geedubs wants it to be.
 
Polyboros2 said:
That's a good fucking question. At first I was thinking, that was just what First Company Primaris called themselves.
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But no, we got first company intercessors. Well maybe they are the Primaris equivalent of Vanguard Veterans...

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Except this guy right here, no blade, no guard, just a bolt pistol and a standard.

So, it's whatever Geedubs wants it to be.
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Well ancients have always been their own sorta thing. Like the terminator ancient. Thing about it, they are probably just a new veteran guard squad. But it's strange that they make a whole new primaris only one. Especially when they look like sternguard with a SS and PS
 
My friend made this after me bitching in a chat about boxes

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And his caption:
"Look at that subtle black background, the weapon labels, the tasteful thickness of the repulsor. Oh my God, it even has a golden header."
 
Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
My friend made this after me bitching in a chat about boxes

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And his caption:
"Look at that subtle black background, the weapon labels, the tasteful thickness of the repulsor. Oh my God, it even has a golden header."
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Bateman: "New Land Raider. What do you think?"
McDermott: "Whoa-ho. Very nice. Look at that."
Bateman: "Picked it up from the commission painter's yesterday."
Van Patten: "Good coloring."
Bateman: "Ushabti Bone layered over Zandri Dust. And the lettering is something called Skitarii Railgun."
Van Patten: "It's very cool, Bateman, but that's nothing. Look at this Astraeus."
Bryce: "That is really nice."
Van Patten: "Airbrushed Talassar Blue with Forge World transfers. What do you think?"
Bryce: "God-Emperor. That is really super. How'd a nitwit like you get so tasteful?"
Bateman: [Thinking] "I can't believe Bryce prefers Van Patten's tank to mine."
Bryce: "But wait. You ain't seen nothin' yet. Converted Mastodon, Death Guard. Ceramite White."
Bateman: "Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's Repulsor."
 
Was looking at the new SM codex, suppressors just need to hit something to deny that unit overwatch but that rule only affects infantry models now. Their autocannons got changed to heavy 3 S7 AP-1 which is pretty schizophrenic. I guess they're maybe better now at fucking with blobs of shooty infantry that you can't remove in one go but aren't quite elite like Neconr warriors, still it seems pretty pointless.
 
You can't be a space knight without a fuck-massive helmet to let everyone know what a badass space knight you are. Surprisingly, its less ostentatious than actual medieval helmets, since you'd have guys going into battle with fucking rooster statues mounted on top of their helmet just so everyone would know they're a big badass knight. Same deal with heraldry, tabards, cloaks, etc.
 
In my opinion there is something that makes the whole grimdark Warhammer 40k thing fall apart and that's death. In a book I was reading 2 space marines killed monsters filled with human souls and when the monsters died the souls were happy and left. Now I can't take any death in 40k serious anymore. Entire planets get destroyed and billions die? So what? Their souls are free now. There isn't even a clear answer for what happens after death in 40k or am I wrong? Orks, eldar, humans etc. all have different beliefs.
 
Sinners Sandwich said:
In my opinion there is something that makes the whole grimdark Warhammer 40k thing fall apart and that's death. In a book I was reading 2 space marines killed monsters filled with human souls and when the monsters died the souls were happy and left. Now I can't take any death in 40k serious anymore. Entire planets get destroyed and billions die? So what? Their souls are free now. There isn't even a clear answer for what happens after death in 40k or am I wrong? Orks, eldar, humans etc. all have different beliefs.
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Eldar souls very definitely get eaten by Slaanesh, which is why the craftworld Eldar make such a fuss about soulstones and the infinity circuits and why DEldar torturemurderrapefuck the shit out of anyone they can get their hands on (it somehow prevents Slaanesh from nomming their souls). Vis a vis human souls, I don't think we have a clear response beyond "they're devoured or captured by Chaos if they're unlucky", but those who worship the Emperor believe that he somehow collects or shields their souls to keep the Chaos gods from getting their grubby mitts on them, and given the way the Warp functions they're probably not wrong. As for unaligned humans, who knows? Probably they wander the Warp until they get swallowed up by something. Orks more or less believe in reincarnation, and they're probably not wrong either, considering they have that psychic gestalt that lets them bend reality to a limited degree. As for the Necrons, they fed their souls to the C'tan as part of the biotransference and there's been no hint that they got them back or that they were freed when the majority of the C'tan got sharded or killed, so there is some evidence that souls can be permanently destroyed. Tau barely even have souls according to 40K metaphysics, so they probably just cease to exist when they die.
 
Sinners Sandwich said:
In my opinion there is something that makes the whole grimdark Warhammer 40k thing fall apart and that's death. In a book I was reading 2 space marines killed monsters filled with human souls and when the monsters died the souls were happy and left. Now I can't take any death in 40k serious anymore. Entire planets get destroyed and billions die? So what? Their souls are free now. There isn't even a clear answer for what happens after death in 40k or am I wrong? Orks, eldar, humans etc. all have different beliefs.
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foolish lorelet. Their souls fell victim to warp predators, thats like the whole reason everything is fucked in the first place. The realm of souls isnt the realm of souls anymore, its the warp. So even if you do die, you still get to be skull fucked by demons anyway, but in the warp. The answer is super clear. Now obviously in the warp there are countless realms your soul can end up to get skull fuck by daemons.

Eldar souls get fed straight to slannesh unless you jump through hoops.
The Ork's word should be taken with a planets worth of salt.
Its mentioned a lot but if you die under the light of the emperor, they like to say youre protected, but that could just be propaganda.
tyranids dont have souls.
T'au souls are remarkably dull, so daemons are exactly clamoring for them.
The Necron's souls were for the most part eaten by the C'tan. Which is part of the reason why everything is fucked.
 
I had a very, very long writeup in my head about what happens in Horus' throneroom on the Vengeful Spirit related to the Ollanius Pius stuff that's leading up to it, but TL;DR, the Emperor is almost certainly a god of the dead akin to Ynnead, which is how you get reincarnated Living Saints and the like, but since humans aren't nearly as psychically gifted as Eldar, the process is taking a while, especially since there's probably just a little bit of data corruption on the way to Terra from wherever the poor son of bitch ends up dying since we don't have soulstones to keep the soul intact after death. I mean, considering how just about everyone in the Imperium, even Space Marines thinks there's going to be this big apocalyptic battle between good and evil with the souls of the slain coming back out to fight that sees a final victory, might be some actual truth to matters. Especially since the Eldar have their own similar prophecy about the end days, the Rhanna Dandra. It just happens to be all grimdark, emo, depressing, and foretells the obliteration of all existence since the Eldar are a bunch of emo, depressed elves who constantly predict the end of everything. Get wraithboned, Eldrad!
 
Snekposter said:
I had a very, very long writeup in my head about what happens in Horus' throneroom on the Vengeful Spirit related to the Ollanius Pius stuff that's leading up to it, but TL;DR, the Emperor is almost certainly a god of the dead akin to Ynnead, which is how you get reincarnated Living Saints and the like, but since humans aren't nearly as psychically gifted as Eldar, the process is taking a while, especially since there's probably just a little bit of data corruption on the way to Terra from wherever the poor son of bitch ends up dying since we don't have soulstones to keep the soul intact after death.
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The Emperor was also able to summon an army of spectral soldiers, Astartes, and Custodians led by Ferrus Manus when he came down to the Webway in Master of Mankind to bitchslap the daemon army that was threatening to invade the Imperial Palace, so he appears to have had some kind of control over human souls even prior to winding up on the shiny toilet. It's possible that's just one of the side benefits of being one of the most powerful psykers the galaxy has ever seen.
 
Second Missing Primarch said:
Eldar souls very definitely get eaten by Slaanesh, which is why the craftworld Eldar make such a fuss about soulstones and the infinity circuits and why DEldar torturemurderrapefuck the shit out of anyone they can get their hands on (it somehow prevents Slaanesh from nomming their souls). Vis a vis human souls, I don't think we have a clear response beyond "they're devoured or captured by Chaos if they're unlucky", but those who worship the Emperor believe that he somehow collects or shields their souls to keep the Chaos gods from getting their grubby mitts on them, and given the way the Warp functions they're probably not wrong. As for unaligned humans, who knows? Probably they wander the Warp until they get swallowed up by something. Orks more or less believe in reincarnation, and they're probably not wrong either, considering they have that psychic gestalt that lets them bend reality to a limited degree. As for the Necrons, they fed their souls to the C'tan as part of the biotransference and there's been no hint that they got them back or that they were freed when the majority of the C'tan got sharded or killed, so there is some evidence that souls can be permanently destroyed. Tau barely even have souls according to 40K metaphysics, so they probably just cease to exist when they die.
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Of course I see this after I posted the same answer.

Snekposter said:
I had a very, very long writeup in my head about what happens in Horus' throneroom on the Vengeful Spirit related to the Ollanius Pius stuff that's leading up to it, but TL;DR, the Emperor is almost certainly a god of the dead akin to Ynnead, which is how you get reincarnated Living Saints and the like, but since humans aren't nearly as psychically gifted as Eldar, the process is taking a while, especially since there's probably just a little bit of data corruption on the way to Terra from wherever the poor son of bitch ends up dying since we don't have soulstones to keep the soul intact after death. I mean, considering how just about everyone in the Imperium, even Space Marines thinks there's going to be this big apocalyptic battle between good and evil with the souls of the slain coming back out to fight that sees a final victory, might be some actual truth to matters. Especially since the Eldar have their own similar prophecy about the end days, the Rhanna Dandra. It just happens to be all grimdark, emo, depressing, and foretells the obliteration of all existence since the Eldar are a bunch of emo, depressed elves who constantly predict the end of everything. Get wraithboned, Eldrad!
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If a god claims to not be a god, a god he is not. He is merely the most powerful psyker to ever exist. Which totally doesnt make you a god in a universe where psykers have control over reality itself.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Tyranids and Tau are gingers confirmed.
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well if we are speaking on a technical level, The tyranids are all controlled by something that could have one of the largest souls in the setting. I dont know what Gw was thinking with making T'au weak in spirit. That pretty much condemns them to always being at the bottom of the Galactic arms race. The fact that they dont have a Mephiston, Ahriman, or Farseer makes them hard to take seriously as a faction.
 
They have really, really big guns, and more to the point, unlike the other factions they can reliably mass-produce them. If even a low-level Warhound Scout Titan gets taken out that's a massive loss representing years of labor. Meanwhile the Tau can and have wiped those out with a single lucky alpha strike from a modified Tigershark. On a rather more practical level, how easily can the Tau replace a couple of Stormsurges and their crews versus the Knight they just gave their lives and war machines to take down? Or a Stormsurge versus a Baneblade? For better or worse, there are no true irreplaceable relics in the Tau arsenal from a height of power never to be regained. They're still on their way up in the galaxy, and they're being smart by taking advantage of the fact they're small fry to steadily expand whenever someone gets distracted.

Also, having a single, big badass that can't be replaced is just as dangerous. Even if takes the simulated deaths of 80 Space Wolf Terminators to down a Primarch in mock combat, that's still a net win for the Rout.

EDIT: Just gotta say I love Mephiston's backstory. Member of the Death Company stuck under rubble, so the only enemy he could fight was his own rage... and he won. Now he's fully in control of his RIP AND TEAR talents after using his endless rage to beat his endless rage into submission, and with some of the most fuck-crazy rage-fueled psyker powers out there. All he's missing is a shotgun and a heavy metal soundtrack.
 
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