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Red pill me on 40k, all I know are the space marines worship a corpse and humanity, there are orcs that have a completely different tone, and there are other space marines that are basically mega christians that'll kill anything they deem heresy. And that it's basically space dnd.
 
Basically you have the late holy roman empire IN SPAAAAAAAACE, besieged by enemies within and without. The Emperor made a deal with four elder gods so powerful that they can expand their influence across dimensions for forbidden knowledge but when it came to pay up he said "lol, no".

Obviously the gods weren't best pleased and corrupted half of the Emperor's children and their genetically enhanced supermen, kicking off a civil war which ended in the emperor's death at the hands of his favourite son. The emperor was sat upon an emense device called the golden throne where his condition was upgraded from deas dead to a hellish living death.

10000 years have passed and the years have been less than kind to the Imperuim of Mankind, orks are rampaging through it's territory, necrons have woken up from their zillion year nap, eldar have been... well dicking around and being general douche bags, tau have... well no one really cares and the gods of chaos have decided now is a great time to finish what they started.

That brings you up to 7th ed.
 
Ass eating cunt said:
Red pill me on 40k, all I know are the space marines worship a corpse and humanity, there are orcs that have a completely different tone, and there are other space marines that are basically mega christians that'll kill anything they deem heresy. And that it's basically space dnd.
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You also have something called black ships scouring the galaxy for unsanctioned psykers so they can literally feed their souls to the emperor.
 
Ass eating cunt said:
Red pill me on 40k, all I know are the space marines worship a corpse and humanity, there are orcs that have a completely different tone, and there are other space marines that are basically mega christians that'll kill anything they deem heresy. And that it's basically space dnd.
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Hoo boy. If you ever want to waste a bunch of 40k players time, ask them to explain the universe and why it is cool and then just walk away. Epics will be penned and cast into the void.

It's a universe that started off as satire, and pretty quickly plunged off a cliff into grim darkness, and yet some of that humor maintained. It's had over 30 years of work put into it's lore. The set up for Humanity in the 41st Millennium has a book series that is 60-70 novels long. Like Lord of the Rings girth novels. I've recommended it before, but if you want to get into the lore of the universe and factions, I recommend reading https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000 and following thread that interest you. They do a good job summarizing a lot of it, while also being enjoyable in their own rights to read.

Separately, and to not double post, I finished The Infinite and the Devine and Brutal Kunnin' recently. Infinite and the Devine was good, not as funny as it's made out to be, but a very enjoyable story. Brutal Kunnin' is very humorous when viewing from the perspective of the Orks. Starts out really strong with that too, however there is a Mechanicus subplot that starts as more of a background to the Orks' good time, that near the end takes over the narrative substationally and is rather dull. Both recommended.
 
While on the topic of lore questions, does Adeptus Mechanicus have a consistent policy on technological innovation and scientific culture? I read some scattered novels and short stories, and it seems like it varies a lot from case to case and subject to the needs of the plot whether basic stuff like the scientific method is considered permissible or even conceivable, or whether it's rote-repetition or rediscovery of ancient knowledge with no practical understanding of the underlying principles, or whether it's full-on mad scientist shenanigans powered by advanced research programs and highly knowledgeable savants.

Also, are there any recognizable relics or artifacts or references to present day human civilization that have survived into the far future? Something like in Dune, where a Van Gogh painting survives into the far future.
 
millais said:
While on the topic of lore questions, does Adeptus Mechanicus have a consistent policy on technological innovation and scientific culture? I read some scattered novels and short stories, and it seems like it varies a lot from case to case and subject to the needs of the plot whether basic stuff like the scientific method is considered permissible or even conceivable, or whether it's rote-repetition or rediscovery of ancient knowledge with no practical understanding of the underlying principles, or whether it's full-on mad scientist shenanigans powered by advanced research programs and highly knowledgeable savants.

Also, are there any recognizable relics or artifacts or references to present day human civilization that have survived into the far future? Something like in Dune, where a Van Gogh painting survives into the far future.
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There's a 3.5" floppy on one of the models.

Supposedly the official policy is that the AdMech has already invented everything that will ever be invented and they just have to find it again. So any "innovation" is heresy, because they must be the whispers of devils trying to trick the AdMech faithful into false creations.

In reality it's like the church during the dark ages. You have true believers who believe 100% if not 150% -- to them, the science crap is just scripture, they don't understand it they don't need to understand it they just need to chant it. But you also have the scholars who are stuck associating with the church because the church is the only place with anything resembling the resources needed to support science / alchemy / whatever. And there's people an infinite number of variations between.

You can see the different versions in the Mechanicus game. There's a smug retarded fanatic who forces you into doing shit like walking through Necron infested caverns spreading incense around which does literally nothing all while constantly threatening and berating everyone else while quoting scripture. But there's also the guy who is all but salivating at investigating the Necron technology. And the ship leader is happy to bounce between the two as needed. (There's also the leader of the foot troops, who doesn't seem to care either way and just wants them to stop getting her troops killed.)

Officially, innovation isn't allowed and science is dead. Unofficially, it's highly likely that the average AdMech guy, especially the higher up ones, knows how shit works and just uses the "press the button and hum the chant and toss the incense out" because it's easier to train some idiot to do that than explain what "attempting to download a firmware update from a server that's been dead for 15,000 years and waiting for it to timeout" means + the occasional fanatic will literally kill you for trying. And you have certain sects like Stygies VIII and Cawl which "openly" are researching alien tech and the like.
 
Ah, where to begin with Belisarius Cawl. "Yes, I'm a tech heretic, but I am utterly indispensable to you, Lord Commander Guilliman, which is why you'll keep me around despite the AdMech's howling and look the other way as I deploy these totally-not-of-traitor-geneseed Primaris Chapters."
 
Ass eating cunt said:
Red pill me on 40k, all I know are the space marines worship a corpse and humanity, there are orcs that have a completely different tone, and there are other space marines that are basically mega christians that'll kill anything they deem heresy. And that it's basically space dnd.
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As a game system the similarities between 40k and DnD end at rolling dice. They are completely different. As from a setting perspective, they also aren't very similar outside of basic space versions of a few token fantasy races. AoS would probably be closer, but that has elves riding sea turtles, take that for what you will.
 
Snekposter said:
Ah, where to begin with Belisarius Cawl. "Yes, I'm a tech heretic, but I am utterly indispensable to you, Lord Commander Guilliman, which is why you'll keep me around despite the AdMech's howling and look the other way as I deploy these totally-not-of-traitor-geneseed Primaris Chapters."
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Blood Ravens, Space Sharks, and Silver Skulls were the originators Cawl my mechanical friend.
 
Caddchef said:
Basically you have the late holy roman empire IN SPAAAAAAAACE, besieged by enemies within and without. The Emperor made a deal with four elder gods so powerful that they can expand their influence across dimensions for forbidden knowledge but when it came to pay up he said "lol, no".
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Granted, we don't know if that was true or just some Chaos shit-talking. And anything they say (that is unsupported by other sources) should be taken with a massive grain of salt.
 
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Has this been posted yet?
 
Lord High Admiral Spire said:
I heard that ADB is going to write the final showdown between the Emperor and Horus, can anyone confirm this?
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They haven't confirmed who's going to write that book in the Siege of Terra series yet, but it's possible. BL lined up six of their big guns to write the series: John French, Dan Abnett, Guy Haley, Gav Thorpe, ADB, and Chris Wraight. The first four were written by French, Haley, Thorpe, and Abnett, and they confirmed the fifth book was also being written by French in the BL preview they did last weekend, so that leaves ADB and Wraight without a book yet, plus someone else who gets to write a second book. Personally I'd prefer Abnett for the big showdown, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
I hope to fucking hell it isn't Dan Abnett.

I can't say anything for the other guys, but Abnett would supremely fuck it all up by shoehorning in his hamfisted abomination of a "concept" and further twist the Emperor into a drooling egoist retard, and probably include another unnecessary retcon of lore.

Dear God, what was that asshole smoking when he wrote Erda?
 
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