Warhammer 40k

[Kup]

I wonder what would have happened if he had actually cracked open the black oculus.

Almost forgot, he did all that stuff during the Heresy while weakened because his twink brother tried to drain him of all bodily fluids......

That would have killed the Traitor war effort if successful, it would’ve been amusing to see Fulgrim cuck the traitors and fuck off to the Warp.

 

[augment]

The alpha legion always has a plan, the nightlords rarely do.

You have people in the legion who are in on the plan, who are plotting against the plan, who are following a rogue plan, who are doing backup plan, who forgot about the original plan, who don't know what the plan is anymore, who are making their own plan, who don't have a plan nor care to follow one.
All wearing the same uniform, existing at the same time.

 

[Love Machine]

You have people in the legion who are in on the plan, who are plotting against the plan, who are following a rogue plan, who are doing backup plan, who forgot about the original plan, who don't know what the plan is anymore, who are making their own plan, who don't have a plan nor care to follow one.
All wearing the same uniform, existing at the same time.

You got any proof of this? Huh? Sound like this is all apart of the plan.

 

[Slimy Time]

Perturabo snapping is really summed by some EC marines in “Fulgrim” when they literally complain about digging trenches and setting up battlements by saying “Shouldn’t the Iron Warriors be doing this?” No wonder the guy said fuck it and it was losing the Iron Warriors that hurt the Imperium the most.

Perturabo literally at one point was the main guy pushing the Traitors side forward, not fighting epic battles or going on shadow crusades. Instead he was taking systems, mass-producing disposable space marines, ensuring supply lines stayed up, tard-wrangling Angron and all of this while planning the greatest siege in human history. Chaos Undivided Primarchs are the best.

I have forgotten my 40k lore, but what was it that made the Iron Warriors the go to group for "shitty, unappreciated grunt work". Was it them being siege specialists who never got any of the glory that Rogal Dorn and his Imperial Fists got?

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I have forgotten my 40k lore, but what was it that made the Iron Warriors the go to group for "shitty, unappreciated grunt work". Was it them being siege specialists who never got any of the glory that Rogal Dorn and his Imperial Fists got?

Ironically enough, one of the novels (the one with Fulgrim tricking Perturabo) makes it seem that the Iron Warriors would get a fulfilling sense of accomplishment if they were building things like the amphitheater rather than be siege specialists.
Then again, Perturabo is a very complex person that the BL authors can't seem to keep a consistent character for him.
It's like they don't communicate with each other to nail down "Ok, Perturabo's character traits are this, this, and this, but not that, that, that."
It makes it hard for readers to understand Perturabo (and, to a lesser degree, the Iron Warriors) because the authors craft their own interpretation of him which can contradict previous portrayals of him.

 

[Snekposter]

You have people in the legion who are in on the plan, who are plotting against the plan, who are following a rogue plan, who are doing backup plan, who forgot about the original plan, who don't know what the plan is anymore, who are making their own plan, who don't have a plan nor care to follow one.
All wearing the same uniform, existing at the same time.

And one, none, all, or some of them are Alpharius. Anyone have that Deathwatch greentext where every single player independently approached the GM with a plan to be an AL infiltrator, so he just said "yes" to everyone and began laughing evilly once they started the teamkilling?

 

[Love Machine]

I have forgotten my 40k lore, but what was it that made the Iron Warriors the go to group for "shitty, unappreciated grunt work". Was it them being siege specialists who never got any of the glory that Rogal Dorn and his Imperial Fists got?

1. Incredibly stable geneseed, perhaps the most, allowing the iron warriors to rebuild quickly from any loses.
2. Perturabo was found relatively late. In the time where he was away from his legion, Before Perturabo came they were already the whipping boys legion.
3. Perturabo's intelligence and pragmatism naturally lends him to the brutal and costly art of siege warfare, Even against Dorn, no one could probably play an attrition game as well as him.
4. Perturabo's pride makes it so he wont actually refuse the more asinine tasks that terra would send him on, like fighting the Thrud. Iron warrior's saw some of the worst battlefields the great crusade had to offer, but never got any of the celebration that legions like the Emperors Children, Imperial Fists, Ultramarines, Or Luna Wolves had.

 

[Kup]

1. Incredibly stable geneseed, perhaps the most, allowing the iron warriors to rebuild quickly from any loses.
2. Perturabo was found relatively late. In the time where he was away from his legion, Before Perturabo came they were already the whipping boys legion.
3. Perturabo's intelligence and pragmatism naturally lends him to the brutal and costly art of siege warfare, Even against Dorn, no one could probably play an attrition game as well as him.
4. Perturabo's pride makes it so he wont actually refuse the more asinine tasks that terra would send him on, like fighting the Thrud. Iron warrior's saw some of the worst battlefields the great crusade had to offer, but never got any of the celebration that legions like the Emperors Children, Imperial Fists, Ultramarines, Or Luna Wolves had.

They were sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy, they get shit assignments and as a result are grim, humourless, cold and generally unpleasant, this prevents them from being heaped with praises and lowers public opinion. Then because are they are jar head assholes with a high mortality rate amongst their allies they get handed crap (Hrud) that Legions like the EC would never get.

It got worse when Perturabo was found, decimation killed any soul the Legion still had (marines perceived as weak were singled out to be killed) and any chance of the Legion being more than grim tacticians died.

Really fucked up that Perturabo purged his Legion three times, once when he was found, the second were the marines that refused to slaughter innocents on Pert’s homeworld and again on Istvaan. Though you can’t argue with the results.

 

[Snekposter]

Trouble is Pert was as ruthless about expending manpower as a Soviet general or a Krieg one, even among his own legion. Even without the decimation the Legion never would have stood a chance. He also deliberately chose those tough nuts on purpose to prove his Legion to the rest... which just made him even more resentful when they looked at the body count and not the fact it had even been done, and his Legion also when they kept dying for no reason at all, not even vanity.

 

[Kup]

Trouble is Pert was as ruthless about expending manpower as a Soviet general or a Krieg one, even among his own legion. Even without the decimation the Legion never would have stood a chance. He also deliberately chose those tough nuts on purpose to prove his Legion to the rest... which just made him even more resentful when they looked at the body count and not the fact it had even been done, and his Legion also when they kept dying for no reason at all, not even vanity.

Well Pert is just like his Legion, own worst enemy and all. This is a guy who started to deliberately sabotage his own crusade efforts (Hrud campaign) to get an inkling of attention, as such the campaign goes wrong and he is disgusted with poor old Dantioch and assigns him garrison duty (which is a duty IW loved) and that makes him more pissed off because Dantioch gets to build shit while Pert has to continue on a Crusade he fucking hates, alongside brothers he hates and all for people he hates.

 

[Love Machine]

I got a very special book in the male. The first 2 lines read as such.





Here are some picks

 

[iceteayo]

Assault Intercessor kit has got to be one of my favorite nu marine kits. Just made 4 Sgts. and a Regular LT. Mostly to actually have power weapons leading my intercessors I already have.

Shame veterans kinda suck though.

 

[Kup]

Assault Intercessor kit has got to be one of my favorite nu marine kits. Just made 4 Sgts. and a Regular LT. Mostly to actually have power weapons leading my intercessors I already have.

Shame veterans kinda suck though.

What’s wrong with the veterans?

I haven’t touched any nu-marine kits in awhile, I’ve been sticking to Heresy-era stuff, chaos shit and some failcast.

 

[iceteayo]

What’s wrong with the veterans?

I haven’t touched any nu-marine kits in awhile, I’ve been sticking to Heresy-era stuff, chaos shit and some failcast.

Good stats but suffer from “why take this when this does the same but better?” they don’t have obsec that’s what comes down to it. The posing in the intercessor box ain't to bad either but I think I prefer the ETB ones from indomintus.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Fury of Magnus arrived today. I love the Siege hardbacks nd the book Siege but thats a different thing entirely

 

[Kup]

Fury of Magnus arrived today. I love the Siege hardbacks nd the book Siege but thats a different thing entirely

I need to read more of that series, Solar War made me want to commit not-alive though, so much focus on gay shit I don’t care about and not enough space combat. Hopefully the rest are better

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I need to read more of that series, Solar War made me want to commit not-alive though, so much focus on gay shit I don’t care about and not enough space combat. Hopefully the rest are better

I've enjoyed them a lot. Particularly book 3. As a whole having a set 8 book limit and a core writing team has helped. They definitely seem like they are wrapping up HH loose ends. Sons of the Saturnine is a great example.

 

[Polyboros2]

They're probably going to be White Scars successors but I want to try making a Chapter with a 15th century Korean aesthetic, including the Geobukseon and Hwacha

Quoting here to not go too off topic in Tabletop Community thread

I actually like that idea a lot, I'm guessing you're going to run multiple Thunderfire Cannons as Hwachas, what are going to be the Geobukseons?

 

[ExsanguinateHorizon]

Quoting here to not go too off topic in Tabletop Community thread

I actually like that idea a lot, I'm guessing you're going to run multiple Thunderfire Cannons as Hwachas, what are going to be the Geobukseons?

That is an excellent question
Thunderfire cannons are perfect, yeah. To be honest I'm still working out the visual designs and details, but I like the idea of a more defensive WS Chapter rather than speedy assault asians. Either way I was thinking of Impulsor Geobukseons or even just using the look for Dreadnoughts, but that might look stupid. Happy to hear any suggestions though.

 

[Kup]

I've enjoyed them a lot. Particularly book 3. As a whole having a set 8 book limit and a core writing team has helped. They definitely seem like they are wrapping up HH loose ends. Sons of the Saturnine is a great example.

See, it’s a series I want to enjoy. Because thematically it’s very similar to my favourite 40k novel of all time, Storm of Iron. But holy shit Solar War was a rough start, Abbadon standing around being a jackass gets old real quick. Zardu Layak is great though, one of the best WB characters.