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Come on SPACE MARINE 2!!!!
 
FUTUREMAN said:
Is Age Of Sigmar really that bad? I mean the models look awesome instead of being skittle space-men AGAIN. Not sure abt you guys tho.
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I grew to like AoS even Stormcasts too. I think one thing that appeals to me is that it’s high fantasy but it still retains typical Warhammer grimdark. I also like the juxtaposition of order being the aggressors and not chaos for once.
 
FUTUREMAN said:
Is Age Of Sigmar really that bad? I mean the models look awesome instead of being skittle space-men AGAIN. Not sure abt you guys tho.
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I've always been fine with AoS but then again the first GW game I ever played was a AoS game (think it was silver tower with a few co-workers, can't remember much aside from us having to cancel cause a member got fired and moved)
 
Caddchef said:
AoS sells a lot more than the old warhammer did so you're not alone and despite sigmarines been a thing there are other popular and varied armies out there... i still think the lore is shite and prefer my fantasy wargame units to move around in blocks and lines though, thanks.
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Fantasy's lore was rich in its internal history, a dark fantasy world that felt lived in. However, there was a lot more that could've been expanded upon; hell, there was half a continent that GW barely touched upon. But that kind of helped the setting stay in its medieval theme as places like Cathay would always be a mysterious realm.

AoS, while having a rocky start, is what I would call post-apocalyptic fantasy. The setting starts with Chaos having won. They have destroyed all of the ancient empires, all that is left are pockets of resistance. Those pockets are mighty, whether it be a Fryeslayer lodge, a City of Sigmar, or a Lumenth tower, but they are outnumbered by vast chaos warbands, innumerable undead legions, and hordes of monsters that destroy everything in sight. It seems like 3rd edition lore is going to lean out the outnumbered angle more, but I would like GW to emphasize the post-apocalyptic side of things. That the forces of order are a shadow of their former selves. That to wander the "wasteland" of the Mortal Realms is walk across ancient ruins of unknown civilizations, being watched by malevolent entities.
 
Love_Machine011 said:
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Come on SPACE MARINE 2!!!!
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What do we know for sure is in the works?

Hopefully we'll get a release date for Darktide. Don't care about Hired Gun or Total Warhammer 3.

I'm gonna throw my guess at Dawn of War 4: This time were not fucking it up for esports. Guessing it'll be a throw back to the first one.
 
Polyboros2 said:
What do we know for sure is in the works?

Hopefully we'll get a release date for Darktide. Don't care about Hired Gun or Total Warhammer 3.

I'm gonna throw my guess at Dawn of War 4: This time were not fucking it up for esports. Guessing it'll be a throw back to the first one.
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I definitely think there will be some sort of action game. While not necessarily Space Marine 2. Something along the lines.
 
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This silence offends Slannesh

Polyboros2 said:
What do we know for sure is in the works?

Hopefully we'll get a release date for Darktide. Don't care about Hired Gun or Total Warhammer 3.

I'm gonna throw my guess at Dawn of War 4: This time were not fucking it up for esports. Guessing it'll be a throw back to the first one.
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Hired Gun is at least soon, cause Nick Rekieta has a review or preview copy. Embargo'd until June 1st, though.
 
iceteayo said:
I grew to like AoS even Stormcasts too. I think one thing that appeals to me is that it’s high fantasy but it still retains typical Warhammer grimdark. I also like the juxtaposition of order being the aggressors and not chaos for once.
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Well whether it's still GrimDark or not is debatable I guess, everyone has their own definition it seems.
Mine at least looks at the difference between GrimDark and HopePunk. In both the current setting is generally grim, but the difference lies in the future prospects for the setting. With GrimDark there is no hope for the future, there is only the possibility things don't get worse but they probably will. With HopePunk there is the well hope for a better future, hope that if you just push through then things will get better. That whole business of "it's darkest before the dawn".
Both settings speak towards the attitudes and motivations of the character in the story as well as aspects of the "feel" of the story.
I guess my definition does leave out the 'over the top' aspect out of it, and I guess a lot of people think of GrimDark as being turned up to 11 or something, but many things can be over the top without being GrimDark so that's to me at least not a defining trait.

I'd argue then that 40K with the return of Guilliman and the seemingly endless supply of superior marines with superior tactics and superior weapons is looking pretty hopeful. It might have changes in the last few months but when I was still actively following the lore and paying too much for plastic models it was really looking good for the Imperium who had morphed into the de facto good guys with their noble and honourable space marine defenders. Chaos had been basically beaten back on all fronts, the cicatrix maledictum had become little more than a speedbump, and the dark imperium had already been reunited.
AoS had a high fantasy far less grim setting to begin with, and it also had a generally hope feel to it. Things were looking grim but then Sigmar locked himself in his room for a while and returned with a seemingly endless army of super soldiers and has been rofl stomping their way through the realms... I guess until the undead showed up, but sure what happened with all that.
 
Penne Dreadful said:
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A pretty massive buff, considering that most anti-horde weaponry is S4.
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Ouch. That is gonna hurt hard.
Polyboros2 said:
I'm gonna throw my guess at Dawn of War 4: This time were not fucking it up for esports. Guessing it'll be a throw back to the first one.
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Considering all Relic has done with DoW is chase fads, you deserve more than just the one rainbow. DoW 3 was entirely expected after the mess that was DoW 2 and I don't see their direction changing. Don't forget every single one of their games has become less and less moddable, too, with CoH 2 being a shadow of the glory that was CoH 1 and DoW 3 not even having any that I know of.
 
Some of the rules teases in AOS 3.0 sound interesting. The coolest tease is in the form of "Reactions," which means you can actually do stuff when it isn't your turn.

As a Beasts of Chaos fan, I'm happy to hear Monsters are getting new inherent abilities.
 
I (Don't) Have A Gun said:
Well whether it's still GrimDark or not is debatable I guess, everyone has their own definition it seems.
Mine at least looks at the difference between GrimDark and HopePunk. In both the current setting is generally grim, but the difference lies in the future prospects for the setting. With GrimDark there is no hope for the future, there is only the possibility things don't get worse but they probably will. With HopePunk there is the well hope for a better future, hope that if you just push through then things will get better. That whole business of "it's darkest before the dawn".
Both settings speak towards the attitudes and motivations of the character in the story as well as aspects of the "feel" of the story.
I guess my definition does leave out the 'over the top' aspect out of it, and I guess a lot of people think of GrimDark as being turned up to 11 or something, but many things can be over the top without being GrimDark so that's to me at least not a defining trait.

I'd argue then that 40K with the return of Guilliman and the seemingly endless supply of superior marines with superior tactics and superior weapons is looking pretty hopeful. It might have changes in the last few months but when I was still actively following the lore and paying too much for plastic models it was really looking good for the Imperium who had morphed into the de facto good guys with their noble and honourable space marine defenders. Chaos had been basically beaten back on all fronts, the cicatrix maledictum had become little more than a speedbump, and the dark imperium had already been reunited.
AoS had a high fantasy far less grim setting to begin with, and it also had a generally hope feel to it. Things were looking grim but then Sigmar locked himself in his room for a while and returned with a seemingly endless army of super soldiers and has been rofl stomping their way through the realms... I guess until the undead showed up, but sure what happened with all that.
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Even with primaris I still feel GW is writing chaos as powerful as ever but thats just me.
 
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Failed Lurker said:
Valrak had a stream of Hired Gun, looked pretty decent.

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Mandalore has a review out. TL:DR is it's very unpolished, but still the best 40k FPS he's every played. Don't preorder, wait until it's in more peoples hands to make sure it's not a complete mess. It's a gun looter with no depth to the gun loot(you get 4 slots for armor when there is one type of armor and it's practically all the same with just higher numbers)
 
Might be worth getting Hired Gun after a few patches and see if it fixes the stuff Mandalore mentioned in his video.
 
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