Was Chris a brat?

[Male]

And I'd say that's because Barb is now so feeble that he knows that throwing a fit to her no longer gets results. I don't think he's matured, I think he knows that his mom is an animated carcass no longer worthy of his attention because it doesn't give him things. She was *ahem* always pretty when she was out buying him things. Now it's no longer his purpose to serve her. Selfish prick.

What a cruel irony for Barb that even the son she tried to make happy through the showering of all the stuff he asked for ended up not loving her anymore.

Now she's just a ball and chain that Chris flaunts around for pity.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Now she's just a ball and chain that Chris flaunts around for pity.

I've often wondered if Chris would rather be happy or pitied, if they were mutually exclusive.

 

[Uzumaki]

Now she's just a ball and chain that Chris flaunts around for pity.

I've often wondered if Chris would rather be happy or pitied, if they were mutually exclusive.

He'd rather be happy, but being pitied seems easier considering the circumstances so... path of least resistance.

Edit: Also, come to think of it, pity has probably worked out pretty well for Chris so far. A lot of his most pleasurable memories probably directly stem from some person or other taking pity on him.

 

[BillRiley]

^Actually, that's probably pretty true. His moodiness is more a result of his household experience having decayed rather than any actual personal development.

I think that's pretty accurate. I've no doubt he still pitches the occasional fit. Autistic children generally don't stop until they're taught how to handle the urge to tantrum, and Chris obviously never got that kind of help.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

He'd rather be happy, but being pitied seems easier considering the circumstances so... path of least resistance.

I'm gonna disagree. I think he wants to be pitied, because pity is the only state of being he understands. I don't think he can ever be truly happy, because even when he gets what he wants, he thinks he has to find something new to have a problem with.

 

[Samash]

Pity could be what he sees as happiness. He's played the autism card so much it's falling apart and everytime he does he gets away with things because people pity the poor autistic. When that doesn't work he pulls his second favorite card "They played kick the autistic" and seeks pity from someone else. Because regardless of what happens there is going to be someone somewhere who pities him and pats him on the head (while wearing gloves) and tells him it's going to be okay.

 

[Uzumaki]

He'd rather be happy, but being pitied seems easier considering the circumstances so... path of least resistance.

I'm gonna disagree. I think he wants to be pitied, because pity is the only state of being he understands. I don't think he can ever be truly happy, because even when he gets what he wants, he thinks he has to find something new to have a problem with.

Oh I agree completely, I don't think it's possible for him to be happy realistically. But if given the choice between the feeling of happiness and of having other people pity him, I think he'd choose happiness. He's broken to the point where it's unlikely anything could make him happy, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't like to be happy.

I think pity, on the other hand, is a means to an end for him.

 

[GFYS]

I sort of wonder if Barb threw more tantrums than Chris. We know she has a very unhealthy persecution complex, as well, so I have no difficulty seeing her use Chris as a catalyst to feed it.

"You can't tell mah little snowflake he can't play da poke mans, HE HAS DA AUTISM!! You're-a prejudicing us!! Imma press charges!! Imma press charges!! BARBECUE SPARE RIIIIIBS - SQUEEEEEE!!!!"
**shits pants**

C'mon, I defy someone to tell me they can't envision this exact scene playing out at Books-a-Million.

As well, I can see her intentionally dressing Chris as retardedly as possible, to gain sympathy for having to raise a "slow in da mind." Granted, she's not exactly a fashion bug herself, but - c'mon - no human on the planet sees Chris' outfit, and doesn't immediately think "retard." Barb is so many degrees of fucked up, why not toss in factitious disorder by proxy as well?

 

[pickleniggo]

As well, I can see her intentionally dressing Chris as retardedly as possible, to gain sympathy for having to raise a "slow in da mind." Granted, she's not exactly a fashion bug herself, but - c'mon - no human on the planet sees Chris' outfit, and doesn't immediately think "retard."

Has it ever been verified as fact that she did this intentionally? Because it's one of my favorite CWC idiosyncrasies.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Maybe he wasn't an outright brat in his youth, but he definitely caught on to his parents' lackadaisical standards at some point and just started pushing the boundaries, trying to see how far he could go before they said anything.

That point, need I remind you, was being kicked off the computer after masturbating in the kitchen.

As well, I can see her intentionally dressing Chris as retardedly as possible, to gain sympathy for having to raise a "slow in da mind." Granted, she's not exactly a fashion bug herself, but - c'mon - no human on the planet sees Chris' outfit, and doesn't immediately think "retard."

Has it ever been verified as fact that she did this intentionally? Because it's one of my favorite CWC idiosyncrasies.

I don't think it has. Generally, people have a hard time trying to pin down exactly who Barb was/is, whether she's a shamelessly wicked woman or a bumbling redneck. Whether or not someone believes she bought those clothes on purpose depends on how they feel about that.

 

[trip2themoon]

I sort of wonder if Barb threw more tantrums than Chris. We know she has a very unhealthy persecution complex, as well, so I have no difficulty seeing her use Chris as a catalyst to feed it.

"You can't tell mah little snowflake he can't play da poke mans, HE HAS DA AUTISM!! You're-a prejudicing us!! Imma press charges!! Imma press charges!! BARBECUE SPARE RIIIIIBS - SQUEEEEEE!!!!"
**shits pants**

C'mon, I defy someone to tell me they can't envision this exact scene playing out at Books-a-Million.

As well, I can see her intentionally dressing Chris as retardedly as possible, to gain sympathy for having to raise a "slow in da mind." Granted, she's not exactly a fashion bug herself, but - c'mon - no human on the planet sees Chris' outfit, and doesn't immediately think "retard." Barb is so many degrees of fucked up, why not toss in factitious disorder by proxy as well?

Hmm, not sure about that. I think he does pick a lot of his clothes. He seems to love what he wears and his fashion seems to be a massive part of his identity.

 

[pickleniggo]

Is it wrong then that I genuinely want the fact that she purposely dressed him like a reeree Ernie to be real?

 

[Trombonista]

And I'd say that's because Barb is now so feeble that he knows that throwing a fit to her no longer gets results. I don't think he's matured, I think he knows that his mom is an animated carcass no longer worthy of his attention because it doesn't give him things. She was *ahem* always pretty when she was out buying him things. Now it's no longer his purpose to serve her. Selfish prick.

What a cruel irony for Barb that even the son she tried to make happy through the showering of all the stuff he asked for ended up not loving her anymore.

Well, the things he wants the most right now- socialization, friends, and a sweetheart- are things Barb isn't letting him have.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

^Yeah, Barb is actually pretty horrible. I wouldn't fault Chris or anyone else for not feeling the love in that awful sort of home.

 

[Descent]

Didn't Barb try to encourage Chris to read and speak by getting him to read toy boxes and then buying them for him? I'm willing to bet those weren't dollar store toys either. Nothing good can come from dropping a couple hundred dollars on your kid everytime they sound out "su-per-nin-ten-do".

 

[Saney]

Didn't Barb try to encourage Chris to read and speak by getting him to read toy boxes and then buying them for him? I'm willing to bet those weren't dollar store toys either. Nothing good can come from dropping a couple hundred dollars on your kid everytime they sound out "su-per-nin-ten-do".

Yep, she did. I think she used Gobots toys though. How expensive can a Transformers rip-off be?

 

[sparklemilhouse]

As well, I can see her intentionally dressing Chris as retardedly as possible, to gain sympathy for having to raise a "slow in da mind." Granted, she's not exactly a fashion bug herself, but - c'mon - no human on the planet sees Chris' outfit, and doesn't immediately think "retard."

Has it ever been verified as fact that she did this intentionally? Because it's one of my favorite CWC idiosyncrasies.

She had to. I mean come on, look at his childhood pics. Once he hit 12-ish, it was full on "retard clothes".

 

[Saney]

As well, I can see her intentionally dressing Chris as retardedly as possible, to gain sympathy for having to raise a "slow in da mind." Granted, she's not exactly a fashion bug herself, but - c'mon - no human on the planet sees Chris' outfit, and doesn't immediately think "retard."

Has it ever been verified as fact that she did this intentionally? Because it's one of my favorite CWC idiosyncrasies.

She had to. I mean come on, look at his childhood pics. Once he hit 12-ish, it was full on "retard clothes".

I have to agree. It's definetly something that I wouldn't put past someone like Barb.

 

[CatParty]

I wonder how much of the tomgirl clothing she helped pick out

 

[pickleniggo]

I wonder how much of the tomgirl clothing she helped pick out

Well, she is the epitome of fashion, so probably most of it.