Was Chris ever under legitimate "stress"?

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Of course since little was ever expected of him he's never worked more than two months his entire life let alone held down a full-time job, not to mention taking six years to get his CADD certificate and then declaring victory before crashing into slumber.(:_(

But do you think it's possible that he's experienced legitimate stress caused by paranoia and low self-esteem during most of the trolling saga like someone would from being subjected to bullying IRL and online? He had pretty much the same exact diet and lifestyle pre-2007 while still managing to stay "fit as a fiddle", but it only after he found the ED page and began his rage campaign that the drastic weight gain began.
 
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Chris has always been under stress. We all experience stress every day. Whenever we're required to do something, that's a stress factor. The difference is that most people have the tools required to handle day-to-day stress and as a result we aren't very affected by it. Chris was allowed to incubate himself in his room during his childhood and was never exposed to any stress factors, and if he was, he was slow to grow resilient or never did because his parents took care of business for him. You can see him become tougher to online stress as time has gone by, but he still probably doesn't know how to handle IRL situations well and at this point he's likely stunted to developing what's required to do so.

My personal formula for Chris' emotional age is his real age divided by 2. When he was doing the "future message" video, he was essentially a 10 year old boy trying to leave an optimistic message about having to leave friends behind. Now, he's a 16 year old experiencing depression and resenting society. He's also beginning to vandalize and commit petty theft.

It's probably safe to say that when Chris acted out and said he was frustrated from having to do stuff, he was experiencing stress akin to the things he was describing because he wasn't mentally prepared to deal with them. He's basically been a big, spoiled kid his entire life.
 
I'm pretty sure even grizzled firefighters would tell you that escaping from any burning structure is pretty stressful. Chris did that. He also lost a lot of the shit he considered part of his identity. (it doesn't matter much that it was ridiculous or childish shit. That's not really the point anyway.)

Oh yeah... and his dad died. That sucks and I can tell you first hand that that's pretty stressful.

but as for Chris being under stress from trolling or whatever. Sure. He was too stupid to realize that he was making everything worse by tard-raging and openly challenging trolls, and he's a total shithead who does petty and mean stuff. And he certainly caused legitimate stress for others like Megan, TWF, the GalPals, Mary Lee Walsh, and definitely Mike Snyder... but still, having people send your parents pics of you fucking your blow up doll, jamming up your answering machine with :julay: calls, and hijacking your PSN accounts, emails and stuff... that would probably stress anyone out regardless of whether or not they brought it on themselves or totally deserved it.
 
Chris' problem isn't that he's never experienced major stress (he has). The problem is all the years he was given a free pass to the minor stuff. That's how we ended up with him whining about pulling weeds and using the manual lawnmower. The rest of us suck it up and do it so we can (hopefully) move onto something fun while Chris bitched about how it was unbearably stressful.
 
That time he shat himself and did nothing must have been pretty stressfull.
 
As Christian's trusty, unflinching companion, I can attest to the fact that he DOES GET STRESSED.

It's hard to compare to what other people might associate with stress though, partly because of the complete lack of expectations most people have towards him. (Since he never had a real job and only rarely is asked to fulfill a regular chore or function, he has little understanding, of how common it is for other people, to have a set deadline, or a set amount of time to do a certain thing... A week working at a McDonalds for example, would probably lead to a moderate case of PTSD for him. Not unlike what would happen to many CWCKIforum members, if they got dropped off into the middle of a war zone, from one day to the next.)

Partly because his emotional retardation* seems to make him label emotional states, that other people know as "financial worries", "dread", "anger", "depression", "anxiety" etc as "stress".

Anything unpleasant, even temporary inconveniences that other people sometimes express as "Blah, I really don't want to work today!" Or: "Oy Vey! This lawn is going to take an hour to mow!" is interpreted as "Oh! So STRESSED!" by OPL...




* It is truly a shame we dont have more reports from his School/High school days, because this fapcup/armchair psychologist would venture to guess, that the foundation to a big part of Chris's emotional retardation and aversion to anything unpleasant was built there. We know from his later reaction, that he seems to have blocked out being bullied. When in reality he was being shoved into lockers, and had things thrown at him by other students, He probably retreated into a fantasy world. His trusty pal Sonichu right beside him, doing best pals things together, and facing down dreadful foes.
 
I think it's disgusting people even question if Chris gets stressed, just put yourself in Chris's shoes. Everyday having to see shirtless men around, causing you painful erections and what makes it even more stressful these men refusing to wear bras when politely asked to. Best Buy selfishly not giving you the minifig you so rightfully deserve, then being forced to attempt to transport said minifig from Best Buy in your pants ( which were already full from a separate bout of stress). Then in a slap in the face of public decency when you ask people for Lego sets costly hundreds of dollars, said people having the audacity to stereotype you as not having your priorities in order. There are so many more cases of stress in this Tomgirls life, have any of you been called a fag by one of your parents when it's blatantly obvious your a straight Tomgirl? The answer in the majority of cases is no because you have not suffered the soul destroying stress that Chris must endure every moment of everyday.

But saying all that it might not be stress just a little colitis.
 
Of course Chris has been under legitimate stress. His life is one big cycle of misery and despair, his heart levels have been repeatedly shattered and he lost his house, his father, his dog and his childlike innocence due to being trolled people mean people and life itself.

Sure he's not new to over exaggeration. Sure he has a habit of making things out to be more dramatic then they really are. But he's definitely had his fair share of stress-inducing moments and his current paranoia is evidence to the effect it has had on his psyche.
 
What Null said. I'd say stress is all relative. What's stressful to a 10 year old isn't stressful to a 15 year old. The problem is that Chris hasn't had practice dealing with adult levels of stress. And that's why Chris is the Chris we all know and love. :tomgirl:

Fapcup said:
* It is truly a shame we dont have more reports from his School/High school days, because this fapcup/armchair psychologist would venture to guess, that the foundation to a big part of Chris's emotional retardation and aversion to anything unpleasant was built there. We know from his later reaction, that he seems to have blocked out being bullied. When in reality he was being shoved into lockers, and had things thrown at him by other students, He probably retreated into a fantasy world. His trusty pal Sonichu right beside him, doing best pals things together, and facing down dreadful foes.
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I really don't think Chris blocks out stressful things. He hangs onto them and bitches about them constantly. Mary Lee Walsh, for example. Also, I don't think he got bullied substantially in high school. Heh, and plus, getting shoved into lockers is just a TV cliche. I don't think it happened that much in real life. Hell, I bet a lot more instances of kids getting shoved into lockers happened more because the bullies saw it on TV and thought it was a real thing people did, and started doing it themselves. Bullying in high schools is a lot more emotional. And not much sticks out about Chris to fuck with him. He's just some slow kid. There are a lot more distinctive targets than just some slow kid. The girly guy, for example.
 
Null said:
My personal formula for Chris' emotional age is his real age divided by 2. When he was doing the "future message" video, he was essentially a 10 year old boy trying to leave an optimistic message about having to leave friends behind. Now, he's a 16 year old experiencing depression and resenting society. He's also beginning to vandalize and commit petty theft.
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I can't wait til he's in his early 50's. By your formula, he'll just be a mid-20's loser living in his mother's basement after getting kicked out of college.

Marvin said:
I really don't think Chris blocks out stressful things. He hangs onto them and bitches about them constantly. Mary Lee Walsh, for example.
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Yeah, this. Chris doesn't understand that minor amounts of stress are normal, so when one little thing doesn't go his way, he hangs on to it and uses it to put himself on the cross for the rest of his life. I swear, 20 years from now, anyone still around is going to hear him bitching about how Tiffany Gowen is mean for not setting up a reunion and being his friend again.
 
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Also, I don't think he got bullied substantially in high school. Heh, and plus, getting shoved into lockers is just a TV cliche. I don't think it happened that much in real life. Hell, I bet a lot more instances of kids getting shoved into lockers happened more because the bullies saw it on TV and thought it was a real thing people did, and started doing it themselves. Bullying in high schools is a lot more emotional. And not much sticks out about Chris to fuck with him. He's just some slow kid. There are a lot more distinctive targets than just some slow kid. The girly guy, for example.
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I think that I might disagree with you about how much bullying Chris experienced. Knowing my own experiences with being bullied, Kids would've singled Chris out specifically because he's autistic and he isn't really one to fight back. When Chris isn't raging at someone, generally he seems to be very soft spoken and naive, but also very paranoid. I am autistic myself and some of my peers singled me out for many of the same reasons.

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* It is truly a shame we dont have more reports from his School/High school days, because this fapcup/armchair psychologist would venture to guess, that the foundation to a big part of Chris's emotional retardation and aversion to anything unpleasant was built there. We know from his later reaction, that he seems to have blocked out being bullied. When in reality he was being shoved into lockers, and had things thrown at him by other students, He probably retreated into a fantasy world. His trusty pal Sonichu right beside him, doing best pals things together, and facing down dreadful foes.
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This.

While I don't know if Chris experienced as much bullshit as I had, I wouldn't be surprised if Chris was bullied far more than he's been letting on. Remember when we got the email from one of his old classmates only a few months ago? I think we've learned from the trolling that Chris was too easy a target because of the affore mentioned reasons...that and also because he frequently acts like an asshole. If Chris was an easy target online, then I bet he was one in real life as well. It just makes sense to me


I wouldn't be surprised if Chris has depression, some form of social anxiety, or both. Again, knowing my own experiences, couple those with the trolling, the bullying, and the autism, all those factors likely exacerbate his stress. I know sometimes it's easier to write off Chris's stress because most of us don't have very high expectations of him, but just hear me out. Chris probably takes all these bad experiences to heart, and while when he says things like "you've shattered my heart" or "you broke up the best relationship I ever had in this pitiful adult life" he may just be doing it to be dramatic. But even then, remember Chris picks up most of what he knows from television and video games, so he probably expresses things the way he does because it's the only way he knows how. Borb didn't really offer much of an independent perspective, Chris's autism impaired his social interactions, and when Chris saw what he perceived to be "normal" behavior on TV and in video games, he took it and rolled with it. I know that I have gone off on a tangent here, but do you kind of see where I'm going with this?
 
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I think that I might disagree with you about how much bullying Chris experienced. Knowing my own experiences with being bullied, Kids would've singled Chris out specifically because he's autistic and he isn't really one to fight back. When Chris isn't raging at someone, generally he seems to be very soft spoken and naive, but also very paranoid. I am autistic myself and some of my peers singled me out for many of the same reasons.


This.

While I don't know if Chris experienced as much bullshit as I had, I wouldn't be surprised if Chris was bullied far more than he's been letting on. Remember when we got the email from one of his old classmates only a few months ago? I think we've learned from the trolling that Chris was too easy a target because of the affore mentioned reasons...that and also because he frequently acts like an asshole. If Chris was an easy target online, then I bet he was one in real life as well. It just makes sense to me


I wouldn't be surprised if Chris has depression, some form of social anxiety, or both. Again, knowing my own experiences, couple those with the trolling, the bullying, and the autism, all those factors likely exacerbate his stress. I know sometimes it's easier to write off Chris's stress because most of us don't have very high expectations of him, but just hear me out. Chris probably takes all these bad experiences to heart, and while when he says things like "you've shattered my heart" or "you broke up the best relationship I ever had in this pitiful adult life" he may just be doing it to be dramatic. But even then, remember Chris picks up most of what he knows from television and video games, so he probably expresses things the way he does because it's the only way he knows how. Borb didn't really offer much of an independent perspective, Chris's autism impaired his social interactions, and when Chris saw what he perceived to be "normal" behavior on TV and in video games, he took it and rolled with it. I know that I have gone off on a tangent here, but do you kind of see where I'm going with this?
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Eh, I guess it's more not that people wouldn't have bullied him, because they did (a little), but it's that if they had, we would know about it. And I didn't say he's not a target, but there's more distinctive targets than him. Bullies would need to be pretty hard up on people to be dicks to, to fuck with Chris, and just coincidentally that that would be the one hardship in Chris' life that he didn't bitch about constantly.

He bitches more about the slow-in-the-mind kid who smacked him in the back of the head than bullies. He does bitch about bullies throwing pennies at him. And it's not just physical things he complains about, he complains about emotional taunting too. He complained Bob calling him a fag, for example.

Chris probably does have depression and social anxiety. And when Chris gets all dramatic, he's not doing it just to be dramatic. It's because he does, genuinely, feel such emotional pain and he gets dramatic because he does feel his pain warrants such drama. It's not one or the other, it's both.

The purpose of childhood (in my mind, anyway) is to slowly introduce little pieces of adult stress into the child's life, so that if they get dumped into the ocean of life, they're not completely lost. It's what it means to "grow up." Borb fucked this up. They made Chris into... y'know, Chris.

Autism did affect his social interactions, but I feel like it was far from a major cause. I think it's more that Chris was just permitted to take the easy way out. Personally, it seems to me that he experienced a little bullying once and immediately ran crying to Borb. Hell, maybe not even bullying, maybe just the joking around teenaged boys do with each other. Just being a little rough. And Borb got him the galpals, so he'd never have to experience discomfort ever again.
 
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He should probably start making videos and let off some steam. I'm really worried about him now. How depressed is he really?
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Heh, well, he's pretty weird.

Like, some days, I'm very worried about him, and then he'll go and post a wishlist on facebook. I don't know, he's a mystery. If I had to guess, he's probably feeling like shit most of the time and obsesses about legos to mask his pain, and is just bad at expressing himself.
 
Maybe it would have been helpful for Chris to really join The Lancers basketball team. Sounds more constructive anyone actually tried to do. Give him physical activity and let him interact with other boys his age who regardless of what films and tv shows tell him aren't out to get anyone who isn't super athletic or loses a match for them. In middle school I was actually pretty surprised with how many socially awkward people you found in sports clubs and how it helped others and myself handle stress outside it better.

Or if he wasn't athletic enough to make the team a chess or literature club could've helped him more than he could ever know. Or hell, even just actually interacting with people from his school on the internet instead of only occasionally meeting up with his gal pals.
 
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Maybe it would have been helpful for Chris to really join The Lancers basketball team. Sounds more constructive anyone actually tried to do. Give him physical activity and let him interact with other boys his age who regardless of what films and tv shows tell him aren't out to get anyone who isn't super athletic or loses a match for them. In middle school I was actually pretty surprised with how many socially awkward people you found in sports clubs and how it helped others and myself handle stress outside it better.

Or if he wasn't athletic enough to make the team a chess or literature club could've helped him more than he could ever know. Or hell, even just actually interacting with people from his school on the internet instead of chasing tail or occasionally meeting up with his gal pals.
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He should find out autistic people to hang out with. Like, someone he could play with legos with all day and draw stupid shit and share the same weird visions of love and what not. If no one told him that this new play mate was autistic he would never know and he wouldnt have any problems with it.
 
As with everything Chris related it's all a matter of perspective, or more specifically, his lack of it. With me and you, stress is putting in enough hours at work to pay the bills, or having to divide your time between looking after the kids, working, and taking care of the house. With Chris, stress is somebody calling him gay on the internet.
I remember a while back, a poster here compared Chris' reactions to the little speedbumps on the road of life to that of a small child dropping their ice cream cone, in that it's literally the worst thing that's ever happened to them at that point, and It's surprisingly apt.
One thing that's quite interesting to me is how surprisingly well he seemed to deal with him burning down his house, as I know plenty of people who would have completely fallen to pieces in that situation. I feel that in cases such as these, the opposite is in effect, where his belief that everybody is going to sort stuff out for him prevents the gravity of the situation really dawning on him.
 
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