"We are all one"

[A-tistic]

We are all one!
"We are all one" is not some hot-air hippie philosophy. *** It is a very simple fact of reality and does in fact stand in opposite to many religions.

Consider these facts:
* There is no atom of you now that was with you when you were born.
* Any form of life will, per our definition of what life is, experience itself as the center of all being, just like you do (even if you are a solipsist this is true in theory).

What conclusions can we draw?
Existence, when shaped in a certain way, starts to experience itself. Think of the Boltzmann brain which is the concept of a sentient being randomly created out of chaos. In the case of our existence, assuming we're not actually a brain-in-a-vat, random events (big bang) has created an environment that becomes self-aware from many different perspectives. That's what we are!

Another analogy:
Think of a stream of water with a lot of whirlpools in it. Every whirlpool is a sentient shape of existence. A whirlpool is something that happens even though it might also be perceived as an object. The whirlpool is a life form like you or me. Whirlpools appears and disappears but the current remains. There is no "death" simply because death is a non-event. There is only a change in the shape of life.

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Or... is it? I haven't really presented any new facts or anything else that is not simple every day observation. Yet, this philosophy does not seem to be accepted or fully embraced by most people. We still suffer from fear of death and feel "separated" from the world.

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[ZeCommissar]

I believe that the Big Bang happened, and the whole star dust theory where all the minerals we have are from dying stars.

Blah blah science blah blah

Basically I believe that all matter came from the singularity of the big bang, I believe all matter in the universe is connected in some way, whether we want to be or not.

I personally identify as a Pantheist, which means the universe is god, but to me it's god because it is everything that exists, the universe is infinitely powerful because it is all the power within itself. All of the power we can ever know, the laws of science is said power.

However it is not a thinking god. Well unless it the universe itself can think, which if we are part of it and can think then technically it can. I kinda mean that you are not judged for your deeds which will give you some special afterlife.

 

[Raziel]

I believe that the Big Bang happened, and the whole star dust theory where all the minerals we have are from dying stars.

Blah blah science blah blah

Basically I believe that all matter came from the singularity of the big bang, I believe all matter in the universe is connected in some way, whether we want to be or not.

I personally identify as a Pantheist, which means the universe is god, but to me it's god because it is everything that exists, the universe is infinitely powerful because it is all the power within itself. All of the power we can ever know, the laws of science is said power.

However it is not a thinking god. Well unless it the universe itself can think, which if we are part of it and can think then technically it can. I kinda mean that you are not judged for your deeds which will give you some special afterlife.

True, which also creates a sea of question, like if the big bang happened, does that mean that the "Black Hole" converts everything back to it's original singular state, by absorbing everything?obviously we have very primitive understanding of all this and it's almost nay impossible to conclude anything, but i myself believe that "all is one and one is all", everything co-exists in service of the environment it resides in.(

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Also The Law of Conservation of Mass.
https://www.boundless.com/chemistry...-32/the-law-of-conservation-of-mass-194-3698/

One thing though can anyone tell me how to post a link to a source and have it be in green, but with a different name

 

[Todesfurcht]

I really hope I'm half Chris-Chan and half David Brockie.

 

[Bassomatic]

The people who take this mind set turn to total chimp outs when you point out they are also just like Hitler, Trump, or boogey man of the weak.

While there could be some scientific debate about all of us sharing some qualities, we are so evolved and advanced to compare us as the same all around or just person to person is laughable at best and frankly insulting. I'm not a pedophile, I'm not an axe murderer, I'm not dumping chemical waste or what have you. It's how the lower people look up to those who are more and do more and pat them selves on the ass instead of a the concept of a ruling or "better" class.

I'm no Jonas Salk, I'm not even in that field or probably ever 1/100th of that caliber to human's growth and betterment. I don't give my self the ass pat just because we both walk upright I'm just like him. He's a hero. I'm a pro shit poster and all around pretty normal hard working person. If I start considering myself just like Alexander the great I'd be mocked, and rightfully so. But if I word it in some loose science new age horse shit I sound all enlightened and what not to the normal idiot who just wants to feel good and bite down to a real simple attempt at self ass patting.

While the OP mentioned the whirl pools changing currents, I've heard that theory and debate applied to crowds. Pictures a baseball game 50,000 people all cheering for one event, one person, one ball thrown to take a curve. Something like "the wave" group think and human minds working together and opposed because not everyone is going to root for the home team or do the wave. Now we all walk out of the game, no one dies (hopefully) but the crowd is over. The parking lot crowd may be the same size but no longer is the spirt the same, are we still one because the population hasn't changed but the event has?

There's a good deal of serious thought about string theory being real. Is Bassomatic like warlord Bassomatic or baby Bassomatic in other universes? Who's the real one? Are we all since we "front/exist" in this one? If you were some being whom could see all the strings, who's the real one and why?

We all share some trains genes and genetic code but that's it, any body who's read about some of people we follow here probably at times feels it's too much as is!

 

[A-tistic]

The people who take this mind set turn to total chimp outs when you point out they are also just like Hitler, Trump, or boogey man of the weak.

While there could be some scientific debate about all of us sharing some qualities, we are so evolved and advanced to compare us as the same all around or just person to person is laughable at best and frankly insulting. I'm not a pedophile, I'm not an axe murderer, I'm not dumping chemical waste or what have you. It's how the lower people look up to those who are more and do more and pat them selves on the ass instead of a the concept of a ruling or "better" class.

I'm no Jonas Salk, I'm not even in that field or probably ever 1/100th of that caliber to human's growth and betterment. I don't give my self the ass pat just because we both walk upright I'm just like him. He's a hero. I'm a pro shit poster and all around pretty normal hard working person. If I start considering myself just like Alexander the great I'd be mocked, and rightfully so. But if I word it in some loose science new age horse shit I sound all enlightened and what not to the normal idiot who just wants to feel good and bite down to a real simple attempt at self ass patting.

While the OP mentioned the whirl pools changing currents, I've heard that theory and debate applied to crowds. Pictures a baseball game 50,000 people all cheering for one event, one person, one ball thrown to take a curve. Something like "the wave" group think and human minds working together and opposed because not everyone is going to root for the home team or do the wave. Now we all walk out of the game, no one dies (hopefully) but the crowd is over. The parking lot crowd may be the same size but no longer is the spirt the same, are we still one because the population hasn't changed but the event has?

There's a good deal of serious thought about string theory being real. Is Bassomatic like warlord Bassomatic or baby Bassomatic in other universes? Who's the real one? Are we all since we "front/exist" in this one? If you were some being whom could see all the strings, who's the real one and why?

We all share some trains genes and genetic code but that's it, any body who's read about some of people we follow here probably at times feels it's too much as is!

I believe we might be talking about different things. When I said "'we are all one' is not a hot-air hippie philosophy" this is the misconception I was pointing to. It's not denying the reality of our everyday life, believing in telepathy and posting on facebook that "u r all beautiful inside <3333".

The fact that everything exists by contrast is true. I.e. you wouldn't be not-Chris if there was no Chris, you wouldn't be good if there was no one evil, etc. Does this mean we should rejoice that evil, ignorance and dirty crapped briefs exists? No, the very definition, nature, of evil is that it affects us negatively and that it should be fought. The principle of contrasts simply means that evil (or anything else we can put a label on) will always exist as a potential, even if there are currently no manifestations of it.

I believe if this concept of thought was implemented and we would become truly selfless it would work in favor of abortion, euthanasia and eugenics. Simply because death would become non-controversial and it would be considered a shame to let life take a form which would cause suffering to itself or surrounding entities. We would work by strictly utilitarian ethics.

The only thing everything shares, from Einstein to an ebola virus, is the most fundamental of all. The sensation of being the center of existence, a subject. Reincarnation is true, it's just that all information becomes lost.

What you said about the baseball game is an interesting play of thought. It reminded me of this:

 

[Bassomatic]

Hah, sorry I didn't meant to imply you were meaning that... I guess I rambled on a bit.

I think your idea of those ethics aside people's spiritual thoughts would also battle far too many basic emotions. Let's say someone is crippled, he's able to live for many years and dare say happy but never again work or regain movement. The math says pull the plug there, what if he's ok being crippled? Does welfare still exisit, do we still have to kill him off if people are willing to take "the burden". Heck, would there even be a wheelchair for him to buy ? If someone finds out they just aren't going to make the cut at a dream career should we celebrate or support their death?

Then we also start opening a very slippery slope about ok we can abort this downs baby, but this one's going to be short... what next? What if eugenics says "well the Korean's just aren't as good as other people" do we start rounding up? It gets very scary very fast. I think the slippery slope because we've seen it in history and people being very emotional knee jerkers in modern times keeps much of this progress back.