We are D.I.N.Ks! We (insert amazing things D.I.N.Ks do) - Expose how amazing and happy you are for not having children.

In theory, no one should ever have children because we can't guarantee, no matter where we start out with, the children won't have massive suffering in their lives. But that doesn't damn children to repeat the mistakes of their parents.


Usually it does. Much of your wiring is genetically predisposed by your parental genetics and you developmentally learn nearly everything from your parents, their behaviors and social behavior with their family that you are usually socialized very early with.

Once you are old enough to be sent to school it's late in the game to change anything that would need changing without major intervention or profound consequences if those things happen to be overwhelmingly negative. No one in what has become the most lucrative and ineffective industry ever created likes to say it out loud, but the die is cast.

One camp talks about what a burden children are - the financial costs and opportunity costs. The fact that, you may very well find out you don't like your children some day and it wasn't just a bad day. Maybe you are a woman that genuinely doesn't like children because you were parentified etc.

Then I see the other camp, that does not talk about the realistic outcomes, the limitations of their own abilities and transference of intergenerational psychological issues. And they *never* talk in terms of the costs like the other. That's because well, their children are invaluable as some sort of cudgel against their parents. Or they are parentifying their own children and see them as an asset... or simply see their children as extensions of their own egos or disorders that will never individuate. No cost is too high because to a very wide variety of fucked up people, the value of having a defenseless human trapped into having to be related to them with zero autonomy cannot be quantified.

Or so I've heard.
 
Usually it does. Much of your wiring is genetically predisposed by your parental genetics and you developmentally learn nearly everything from your parents, their behaviors and social behavior with their family that you are usually socialized very early with.

Once you are old enough to be sent to school it's late in the game to change anything that would need changing without major intervention or profound consequences if those things happen to be overwhelmingly negative. No one in what has become the most lucrative and ineffective industry ever created likes to say it out loud, but the die is cast.

One camp talks about what a burden children are - the financial costs and opportunity costs. The fact that, you may very well find out you don't like your children some day and it wasn't just a bad day. Maybe you are a woman that genuinely doesn't like children because you were parentified etc.

Then I see the other camp, that does not talk about the realistic outcomes, the limitations of their own abilities and transference of intergenerational psychological issues. And they *never* talk in terms of the costs like the other. That's because well, their children are invaluable as some sort of cudgel against their parents. Or they are parentifying their own children and see them as an asset... or simply see their children as extensions of their own egos or disorders that will never individuate. No cost is too high because to a very wide variety of fucked up people, the value of having a defenseless human trapped into having to be related to them with zero autonomy cannot be quantified.

Or so I've heard.
This is spoken like a person who has never had a child.

Let me spit some facts. Your child is not a clone of you and never will be. It is a complete omelet of the best and worst parts of both parental lines. A child is its own autonomous person and will piss you off and impress you and many other things. You can't control it, it is what it is. If the child decides to be defeatist and say I can't be a better person because of fate (pains me to use that term in this sense here though), that is their choice.
 
We're DINKs! We stopped getting invited to events because those childbearers (slaves to kids) are jealous of how free we are! Now we have even more time to do everything we want!
Lol imagine being a slave to kids and not being able to post about your 4th trip to Japan this year. LOL! Those kid havers are so jealous of us and are just pretending to be happy and fulfilled.
 
I was a DINK (we were dinks?) 2014->2016. Was probably the worst part of my relationship with my wife. Everyone needs a purpose in life and a woman in her 20s is hardwired for that purpose to be making children and raising a family. No amount of birth control & antidepressants will fix that. Working aimlessly after being driven towards one goal after another your whole life in school sucks, and raising a family gives real context to that work.

I guess if you highly value binging on cheap easter chocolates bought the day after easter and spending entire evenings building gundam model kits when you aren't too tired from work and lazy then yeah time of your life.
 
Once you are old enough to be sent to school it's late in the game to change anything that would need changing without major intervention or profound consequences if those things happen to be overwhelmingly negative. No one in what has become the most lucrative and ineffective industry ever created likes to say it out loud, but the die is cast
Bro plenty of people have fuck up retard parents that impart horrible lifestyles, it sucks and can fuck the kids up too, but everyone in life has a choice and can decide to be better.
 
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True, but I dislike the defeatist attitude that exists in a lot of these R*dditor types. Lost before you ever started.
More like understanding what I am and am not capable of and what I want. I can barely take care of myself, nothing good would come from adding crotchfruit that I'm instinctively repulsed by. Especially since it would likely make me straight-up psychotic.

I think a lot of trad types REEEEEE about childfree people existing because they've drank a lot of stupid conspiracy kool-aid and are trying too hard to rebel against their slightly left of center parents. Plus gross tradcel dudes want to babytrap a fuckmommy. The problem is if those people do reproduce, they make godawful parents that always treat their kids like garbage. I harp a lot about fundies but they're a great example of what kind of parents those types make and what ultimately happens to those kids (i.e. a good chunk ending up no-contact with their parents).

Kids also don't guarentee you won't die alone, especially when you treat them like shit. Having kids just because you think it means free unpaid caregivers when you're old is also a terrible reason to have them. Kids are people, not your personal slaves.
 
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It's amazing how much both the pro and anti children side seethe at the other. Like both secretly wish they made the other choice or something. Who fucking cares. Have kids, or don't.

I did say that wasnt the point of the thread and to just make jokes of idiots that want attention but I guess people cant help themselves.
 
What's important to know about these people is that they often want things like Social Security, Healthcare, etc. But they refuse to contribute to society. They just want to take. If they wanted to live alone in the woods with no kids, then I wouldn't hate them as much. But they want to not contribute to society but want us to fund their bad trips to Europe.
 
I did say that wasnt the point of the thread and to just make jokes of idiots that want attention but I guess people cant help themselves.
It’s a funny premise for a thread and I enjoy it. Aren’t most of us here to talk shit and be mean? My spouse and I were actually DINKs for about six years and it was pretty fun and we saved enough that we to not have to worry about anything financially now that we have kids.

I really don’t care if people have kids or not. They’re tough and it is a personal choice that doesn’t impact me.
 
What's important to know about these people is that they often want things like Social Security, Healthcare, etc. But they refuse to contribute to society. They just want to take. If they wanted to live alone in the woods with no kids, then I wouldn't hate them as much. But they want to not contribute to society but want us to fund their bad trips to Europe.
You can contribute to society in many ways other than having kids. Most people work or at least volunteer places, for example.

On the other hand I can't say people like Jill Rodrigues contribute much to society other than a child abuse horrorshow to gawk at.
 
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Kids also don't guarentee you won't die alone, especially when you treat them like shit. Having kids just because you think it means free unpaid caregivers when you're old is also a terrible reason to have them. Kids are people, not your personal slaves.
Life has no guarantees of anything. Maybe you have the perfect child and as an adult with the brightest future and intentions, he dies in a car crash by some criminal being chased by the police (this happened to one of the people who brought me into the Church). That is insanely tragic, but doesn't negate the fact you should at least try.

I had a shit life but I don't wish I was never born. I just deal with it as best as I can.

This is no argument for you specifically to have children, just something to chew on.
 
Life has no guarantees of anything. Maybe you have the perfect child and as an adult with the brightest future and intentions, he dies in a car crash by some criminal being chased by the police (this happened to one of the people who brought me into the Church). That is insanely tragic, but doesn't negate the fact you should at least try.

I had a shit life but I don't wish I was never born. I just deal with it as best as I can.

This is no argument for you specifically to have children, just something to chew on.
Yeah nah given that just hearing babies screech in the store makes me instinctively want to drop-kick them, I'll pass. Me being the sole caregiver of one of those things would never end well for it.

I think that not only should I have been aborted, but my mom should've as well. The world would be a better place if she and people like her never existed. Malignant narcissists are irredeemable.
 
You can contribute to society in many ways other than having kids. Most people work or at least volunteer places, for example.

On the other hand I can't say people like Jill Rodrigues contribute much to society other than a child abuse horrorshow to gawk at.
Volunteering doesn't fund social programs, the youth does. This is an issue that South korea and Japan are having due to no kids.
 
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"Being a DINK is great because it means you have more cash to spend on yourself instead of a bunch of snotty kids. Ugh, kids are soooo expensive." *drops 3 grand on kidney surgery for their diabetic cat*
Cats don't have to go to school. Humans have to eat 2000 calories a day, while cats need 330 calories at the HIGH end. The longest living cat lived only like 35 years and is an outlier, while most humans live to 60. Cats cost way less than kids.
 
Cats don't have to go to school. Humans have to eat 2000 calories a day, while cats need 330 calories at the HIGH end. The longest living cat lived only like 35 years and is an outlier, while most humans live to 60. Cats cost way less than kids.
A lot quieter and less messy/sticky too.
 
Oswald Spengler said:
And then, when being is sufficiently uprooted and waking-being sufficiently strained, there suddenly emerges into the bright light of history a phenomenon that has long been preparing itself underground and now steps forward to make an end of the drama—the sterility of civilized man. This is not something that can be grasped as a plain matter of causality (as modern science naturally enough has tried to grasp it); it is to be understood as an essentially metaphysical turn towards death. The last man of the world-city no longer wants to live—he may cling to life as an individual, but as a type, as an aggregate, no, for it is a characteristic of this collective existence that it eliminates the terror of death. That which strikes the true peasant with a deep and inexplicable fear, the notion that the family and the name may be extinguished, has now lost its meaning. The continuance of the blood-relation in the visible world is no longer a duty of the blood, and the destiny of being the last of the line is no longer felt as a doom. Children do not happen, not because children have become impossible, but principally because "intelligence" at the peak of intensity can no longer find any reason for their existence.
He also said:
When the ordinary thought of a highly cultivated people begins to regard "having children" as a question of pros and cons, the great turning-point has come. For Nature knows nothing of pro and con. Everywhere, wherever life is actual, reigns an inward organic logic, an "it", a drive, that is utterly independent of waking-being, with its causal linkages, and indeed not even observed by it. The abundant proliferation of primitive peoples is a natural phenomenon, which is not even thought about, still less judged as to its utility or the reverse. When reasons have to be put forward at all in a question of life, life itself has become questionable. At that point begins prudent limitation of the number of births. In the classical world the practice was deplored by Polybius as the ruin of Greece, and yet even at his date it had long been established in the great cities; in subsequent Roman times it became appallingly general. At first explained by the economic misery of the times, very soon it ceased to explain itself at all.
Bro called it in the 1920's. This shit isn't new. These types pop up whenever a civilization is about to die. Think of them less like people and more like the stink gas emitted from a rotting corpse.
 
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