🐱 'We have co-workers instead': Hinge dating profiles spark discussion about how men don’t have friends

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A series of viral TikToks sparked discussion about toxic masculinity and how men’s dating profiles indicate they don’t have healthy friendships with other men.
The saga started with a video posted on April 14 by Jordan (@off_jawaggon), who commented on the low standards for men on dating apps like Hinge and Tinder.
“Basically all I have to do is not ask for nudes or make lewd sexual comments in the first few conversations, and you would have thought I was a knight in shining armor riding in on a white horse,” the TikToker said in the video.
In response, Jazz (@ringsofvail) noted the type of men’s dating profiles that she finds annoying or funny, and she calls out men for lying in their bios.
“I just want to take your attention to the height because I’m taller than this man and I’m 5’5,” Jazz sad. “I know he’s fucking lying.” Jazz also shared a man’s Tinder profile in which he said he was “heartbroken” and “looking for a girl to hold me.”
“Do men not have friends?” Jazz said.
Some users in the comments seconded the question—while others posited that men really do have a hard time finding friends or other outlets to vent.
“Sad reality is, most men don’t have that outlet and never will,” one user wrote. “As someone who is deeply emotional, it’s difficult finding someone to put up with it.”
“This ain’t the movies, having friends is a part of the male fantasy,” another commenter said. “It’s not reality for many men. We have co-workers instead.”
Jordan told the Daily Dot that she has asked guys she’s dating about their friends’ ages and they had no idea but that she knows many personal details about her best friend.
In another TikTok, Jordan said that Jazz’s response was what he was hoping for and analyzed the reason that men lack friends.
Jordan said that men do have friends but, unlike women, lack safe spaces to be vulnerable about their emotions. He also said that men statistically have fewer friends than women, and if they do form emotional bonds with other men, it’s because of experience (e.g., playing on a team together or working together).
Jordan also cited statistics that men are twice as likely to commit suicide have high rates of substance abuse. “We binge more often, and we die younger,” Jordan said.
He said these issues partly stem from societal pressures and gender roles and noted that younger boys report not wanting to share their feelings, which makes it harder for them to form connections with other boys.
Jordan said that a man forms a relationship with a woman, they will turn to her with their problems and emotions.
Jordan also said he is very comfortable with his sexuality even though society pressures men not to cry or talk about their feelings. Jordan said even though he has friends in his life to talk to, he still feels stress and anxiety when trying to express emotions to another man.
“It’s a lot easier and way more natural and comfortable for me and I think most guys just talk to a woman about these things, if we’re gonna talk about it at all,” the TikToker said.
He said guys tend to bottle things up or self-medicate, which eventually turns into an emotional dumping on women. Overall, Jordan said, not dealing with emotions can manifest in unhealthy ways such as violence and suicide.
“Guys usually have a lot more going on that we don’t even know how to talk about,” Jordan said.
 
Bitch are you for real? writting an article because you are to stupid to understand the cheapest and oldest trick in the book of picking up chicks?
let me explain this on a level tiktokers can understand....

Ohhh no me so sad, my dog got run over by a aircraft carrier, lets talk about my sad for 5 minutes and than go bang because you think me have hole in heart and you can fill it.


Actually, I suppose I could. You niggas could come over and move my shit when I move. That would be nice.
do you have beer and freshly grilled meat? if yes, yeah i will be there fren.
 
Sadly at my age, most of my real friends have passed. Three in the past couple of years to heart attacks.
Boy,💉I💉wonder💉why...
Also, I know that feel bro. One of my best friends died on my birthday of a grand mal seizure, another in a motorcycle crash, and a third to Fauci's prick.
 
As a guy you make your irl friends when you are in your teens and early 20s and the rest are acquaintances/coworkers/family friends.
Online you FORGE destinies together with other wolves....
Joking aside, online pals you can keep up with them better and longer because you are annoying them less and can just send a meme after 3 months and get back into it.
No idea what the fuck the point of this article is and the reddit boys on tiktok commenting on some stacy's profile
 
"we don't have friends we have coworkers"
it's called the single life.

it's a common way of life for sluts and shit heads.
no friends and hook ups every other day.
 
sounds like projection
Bingo
Jordan said that men do have friends but, unlike women, lack safe spaces to be vulnerable about their emotions.
Jordan is rarted and doesn't realize it's women's toxicity that makes it so men learn to never let them see that shit. No matter what lies they tell you, looking weak will immediately make them lose respect for you as a person.
 
Why would I need to know how old my friend is? He's old enough to go to the bar to hang out with, that's all I really need to know.
 
I have found I can often fully fill my free time with a rotation of 3 to 5 women. The main problem is their friendship is highly conditional on us banging. Once that ends I rarely hear from them again. At this time I am still unsure if this is due to the sexual relationships with the women or just women being flaky in general. I am slowly coming around to the fact that I need to put at least half that energy into male friendships.
 
Men tend to forge relationships out of necessity. Why waste effort towards something if you're getting nothing out of it or don't need it? Some people never drop out of friendship though, even if they haven't contacted each other in years. I know this for a fact because I saw an old friend I hadn't seen since grade school in college and it wasn't like a single thing had changed.

I should look him and my old friend group up sometime.

Growing up together is an experience you rarely share outside your family, so I guess I understand why that happens.
 
Lots of men either date or marry pyschos who control their entire social life and push out the guys actual friends and force them to only interact with their friends cuck husbands/boyfriends. When the relationship ends, the guy essentially has no ties to anyone that isn't connected to their former partner.
I got to watch this happen to my brother when his wife decided that she "didn't feel like herself any more" and broke it off.

Fuck that cunt.

Also fuck my phone for trying to correct "cunt" to "count" every damned time.
 
So many relationships wind up being completely transactional. You'll get X amount of time akd attention if you provide Y amount of emotional/financial support. This is why there are so many bitter broke dudes out there that absolutely loathe their exes.

This is an anecdotal example, but when My grandmother was on her deathbed she told my grandad that she only stayed with him "out of obligation". My grandad loved this woman more than life it self and she just hits him with a "you paid so I stayed". It broke him and he stopped taking care of himself after he retired. She ruined his finances and killed his will to live and he had no one to turn to for any kind of support because he still had to be strong for his kids and grandkids.
I have no words.
 
Christina Hoff Sommers wrote The War on Boys way back in (iirc) 2004 about how putting all of the forces and money used to help kids solely towards girls had completely fucked generations of men, and that had far reaching and very negative consequences for women.
Unironically, I trust the second wave feminist to describe how society royally screwed generations of young men.
 
Unironically, I trust the second wave feminist to describe how society royally screwed generations of young men.
The best thing is a few years after the original version of the book that pointed out the trends, she did an updated version showing that everything she said was going to start happening had started happening. It's still an interesting read.
 
This sounds like a modern woman unable to understand how men operate. We may work together, live near each other, be cordial with each other, and whatever; but we're not friends.
 
"men and women function differently, more news at 11"

Jesus, what a bunch of fucking retards lmao. The "bros hanging out forever!" thing really is an artifact of youth tbh and it's been that way for a long, long time. Men enjoy camaraderie and shit for fun and utility but men are already (supposed to be) less emotionally expressive than women. That's not a character fault, it just is - we don't need to confide our deepest darkest secrets in some friend or have someone to tell us we look pretty.

Most women I know who have an actual best friend, even if it's a male best friend, it's because that person has been emotionally nurturing or supportive on some level that resonated. Maybe they comforted them through a breakup, maybe they were besties in school and have memories, etc.

Most men I know who have what they'd consider a best friend, consider that person a best friend because that's someone they could count on for something tangible. For example I have quite a few friends, but maybe only 2-3 that I know I could call pretty much any time and they'd help me out. One of them has actually driven several hundred miles to help me out before. And yet I still rarely remember the correct day for his birthday. I couldn't tell you his favorite movie, nor could he say mine. But we both know that if we're in some shit, whether that shit is being wrecked on the side of the road or getting ditched in the middle of nowhere by some psycho bitch in another state and needing a ride, we could call each other and we'd do what we could to help.
 
One thing about male friendship is that for a lot of guys, it lasts so long as the two men are single and that when you marry and especially after you have kids, you are socially expected to severe all ties with the outside world and dedicate yourself entirely onto your kids and your wife but especially your kids.

It ties into the idea of the wife/kids as the endgame and that any "friends" a man is allowed to have must either be blood relatives (IE a brother or cousin) or in-laws.

Also, the "Crabs in a bucket" scenario is especially true with men, just like it is with women. It's why the incel meme was able to take off like it did and why the whole "Men Going their Own Way" thing sprung up as an alternative to the incel path; there is an inherent notion that a man's sole gig in life is to get married and make the marriage their whole world and the bitterness that happens when you are the odd man out with no wife or kid makes you a bitter freak with at best fair weather friends (incel) or cause you to become the insufferable "confirmed bachelor" single guy who won't marry because <insert marriage/divorce horror story or statistic here> and how you are more "happy" by yourself than risking <insert marriage/divorce horror story or statistic here> (MGTOW).

So you either rage at not being allowed access to the means of reproduction or go the MGTOW route, which is to cope with the idea that marriage/fatherhood is a shrill shrieking lie and surround yourself with horror stories from your friends who's marriages turned into nightmares that ended in divorce and poverty inducing alimony/child support payments with little to no access to their kids and divorce statistics that allow you to claim "you aren't playing the rigged game" and live the quiet discontented life of a bachelor with money but no one close to you to show for it.
 
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