🐱 We need the queerness of 'Sailor Moon’ now more than ever

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A few months back, something compelled me to start rewatching Sailor Moon in its entirety for the first time ever. But inexplicably, I found the light-hearted, fun, optimistic anime from my '90s childhood was constantly bringing me to near tears. I couldn't understand why.

Then, as I witnessed some of the most violently regressive anti-LGBTQ bills (often targeting children) get passed into law again and again and again over these past couple weeks, it hit me.

Watching Sailor Moon right now feels like chicken soup for the queer soul. In a moment when hateful forces of evil seem to once again threaten to shroud our world in darkness, Sailor Moon shines as a beam of moonlight — an unbeatable beacon of hope fighting for love and justice, no matter how impossible the odds seem.

Watching Sailor Moon right now feels like chicken soup for the queer soul.
To those in the know, the revolutionary queerness of Sailor Moon was never much of a secret. And I'm not talking about characters merely coded as queer, or LGBTQ fans with popular queer head canon, or even the inherent gayness of an astrologically-obsessed group of girls who collect crystals to ward off bad vibes together.

This decades-old anime show was eons ahead of modern-day Disney (which only just recently started regretting its corporate funding of the legislators behind Florida's so-called Don't Say Gay bill after immense public pressure to do so). Disney's laughably underwhelming "exclusively gay moments" or first gay Pixar charactersstrategically kept in the background pale in comparison to Sailor Moon's illustrious history of LGBTQ representation.

The queerness of the anime's original 1992 Japanese release was extremely explicit, with outright gay, lesbian, genderfluid/non-binary, and non-cis characters and relationships with majorly significant plots. But it's not your fault if you can't remember any of those pioneering queer animated stories from the version of Sailor Moon you watched as a kid. Because America, being America, ensured that all of the gay was censored out of the English dub.

But let's recap just some of the LGBTQ representation from the show's original Japanese run that young, queer, North American millennial children were robbed of thanks to their country's blatant queer-phobia.

Most famously, Sailor Uranus (Haruka) and Sailor Neptune (Michiru) went from being romantic partners to being very disturbingly intimate cousins who shower together and kiss on the mouth, since normalizing incest to children is apparently far better than the evil of [checks notes] lesbians. But there were also the same-sex gay lovers who were main villains in Season 1, Kunzite and Zoisite — the latter of whom the American dub gave female pronouns instead.

Fish Eye, a central baddie of Season 4, presents with a gender-fluidity befitting their original fish form, mostly identifying by masculine pronouns yet also very often in femme-presenting clothes. A whopping 34 episodes of Season 5 were never even released in English, altogether erasing the Sailor Starlights, who are characters that present as male while in their regular human forms yet are then revealed to be biologically female during magical transformations (oh, and one of them is hot for Sailor Moon).

Thankfully, when Hulu became Sailor Moon's streaming home in 2014, it released all 200 episodes uncut and uncensored, even working with Viz Media on re-dubs that reinstated many of the LGBTQ plot lines erased from the initial North American release.

But honestly, there's pretty strong canonical evidence indicating that all the Sailor Scouts probably land somewhere on the not-so-straight side of the Kinsey Scale.

In the manga at least, Sailor Mars (Rei) and Venus (Minako) openly flirt with the idea of giving up boys for each other. In my experience of the show, there's heaps of teasingly non-platonic intimacy exchanged between all the Scouts, full of moments where the girls who get it can clearly pick up on something very LGBTQ happening. Many (like myself) will also gladly die on the hill that even main protagonist Usagi is actually a bi-con for the ages — despite that pesky character flaw of having eternal heterosexual love for Tuxedo Mask.

Of course, in many of these cases, it's hard to definitively declare exactly which Pride flag the characters themselves would identify with. Aside from the fact that neither the creators nor characters use any of the contemporary LGBTQ labels or language used in America, all their queerness is complicated by the decades-old sex and gender politics of two different cultures and a variety of entertainment mediums dominated by men.

The Sailor Moon universe — in all its original forms — has never been one where binary cis heteronormativity was assumed.
What is undeniable, though, is that the Sailor Moon universe — in all its original forms — has never been one where binary cis heteronormativity was assumed. I mean, we're talking about characters who are often intergalactic, non-human, cross-dimensional beings. The expansiveness of their identities transcends all of time, space, and the strict boxes people insist on putting each other into. And isn't that a true queer ideal? To simply live in peace, secure in the vast complexities of your own individual identity that you never need to explain or interrogate or justify as having a right to exist to other people?

There's something unspeakably powerful about a kids' show that presents a world where same-sex love and non-binary gender identity doesn't need to be championed with special fanfare because it's just the norm. Most of the time, it almost feels like we're the weird ones as viewers for wanting to ascribe labels to them with language that only really exists to help make queerness more digestible to the dominant heteronormative culture.

Maybe masculine-presenting Sailor Uranus doesn't fully identify as a cis woman — but there's no need for her to even address that possibility, since what really matters are the acts of love she shares with Sailor Neptune. Whether Fish Eye is a trans woman or more aligned with gender-fluidity is pretty besides the point, too, since there are so many other, more defining and central aspects of the character's magically inter-species experience to focus on.

As a lonely and confused little girl who grew up in America, the powers-that-be decided I wasn't allowed to know that Sailor Moon was queer. Yet despite their best efforts, the show didn't need to explicitly "say gay" for me to pick up on how it made me feel uniquely seen and accepted, helping me love a part of myself I'd only learn the words to describe decades later after coming out as bi.

That's the thing about bigoted attempts to censor such intrinsic parts of the universal human experience out of existence. You can try to outlaw or forbid it as much as you want — but queerness always finds a way.
 
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Imma be real for you chief, it wouldn't take much more than a spot on an ATGM team for me to sign up. CIA/DIA will hand them out like candy to literal Nazis and terrorists, but I'd have to pay $200 for a stamp for a model rocket so the glowies don't kill my dog. Do you know how much energetic material you can make with $200 worth of inputs? It's a lot. Basically the only chance I have to realize my flying/exploding dreams is to get far enough into interesting enough research before they shut me down. Then you wind up with something like a DARPA contract instead of a whole mess of felonies. Like I said I am really ambivalent about who I work for, I just want to make things explode and/or fly very fast? Is that really too much to ask for?
I mean, I wouldn't say no to a Javelin. I'm just wondering if there's some dark web web site somewhere I could claim to be a Ukie so I could get my free anti-tank weapon.
 
I mean, I wouldn't say no to a Javelin. I'm just wondering if there's some dark web web site somewhere I could claim to be a Ukie so I could get my free anti-tank weapon.
I guess this is the kind of comment that necessitates a quick stop and wave to my NSA agent, Hi Glowie! Now we have learned some harsh lessons about things like ATGMs or MANPADs and that the enemies of our enemies aren't necessarily our friends. What this means is that the government keeps a tight fucking leash on these devices today. You basically need to be in-theater, part of a group with established glowie ties, and they will trickle them out and require proof-of-use. If they think you have stolen one or are stockpiling them somewhere that's a good way to wind up with a hit squad after you. It's legitimately a more valid and safer alternative to develop your own devices. My plans are to market it for export to Israel first. (((They))) only really take umbrage to people helping their enemies, exports get all kind of fun exceptions, and if the State Department decides to restrict it that's a good argument to push them into a dev contract. (Which again NSA agent, I'm kind of a "free agent" on this and Uncle Sam's checks are the easiest to cash.)
 
We need old school Dragon Ball Z where roided out dudes tore each others' limbs off and died to protect Earth and shit.
Tbh I wish we could just classify DBZ as separate from anime but at the same time it's the best argument in defense of it. It doesn't pretend to be something it's not and it doesn't have a political message, it's literally just "work hard, get strong, fight, get your ass kicked, work harder, get stronger, repeat". There are a few wholesome bits about family etc but the meat and taters of the show really is just about working hard to overcome some obstacle, usually by fighting.
 
A few months back, something compelled me to start rewatching Sailor Moon in its entirety for the first time ever.
I was going to say "That's the HRT and it's a sign that you should stop transitioning" but behold my surprise that the person writing the article is actually one of those 'assigned at birth' variants of woman.
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That's humbling. I thought this would be just as easy as Guess The Race but I think I'm not ready to go pro with this shit just yet.
 
how is this “inherently gay”? I knew lots of girls in high school who were into crystals and astrology. many were Wikkan, which is its own stupidity. But most were definitely straight.
Remember when gay also meant like, lame, instead of literal pound me in the ass homosexual?

I've mentioned it before, but I've noticed this almost Pavlovian hostility to anime, joking or not.

It's almost as if it were "socially engineered"...

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There's even an... It might not be a hostility to Japanese media, but there's a minimizing of it within spaces dedicated to it. Imagine a lesbian dating app full of troons.

There was a period where in addition to the word manga, there was manhua and manhwa floating around and I was frustrated as fuck because I couldn't remember if there was a difference between the latter two, but w/e it's all been translated to English or doesn't matter anyways.

Now the aggregators have been flooded with Chinese and Korean comics enough for me to identify cultural trends and have preferences, but I can't just filter out the shit tier content because that would be wayciss or something. Or if filtering is possible it's behind a log in wall which may as well be inaccessible considering how Manga sites aren't the most secure or reliable or best things to register for.

Sometimes I just want to pick some new Manga to start but it's getting harder and harder to not accidentally land on a webtoon instead...

Why the fuck does it have to be defined as "Chinese Anime"? There are two definitions of Anime
  1. Animations (Japanese definition)
  2. Cartoons from Japan (American definition)
If you're going by the first definition, The Simpsons is already anime. Anime is not bound to any country. No need to use a new word just because it's Chinese.

If you're going by the second definition, uhm? So it's a cartoon from Japan from China? Why not just call it a cartoon from China?

Oh, some wikis alternate between calling the animated version of a series a dongua and an anime. It's like they can't decide between China having its own unique category of cartoons and akshually CHINA #1 FUCK JAPTOONS.

Yeah discovering these is cancer too. There used to be a few decent quality translated works to choose from. Now there's lots of options, and like the manga situation there are cultural tropes that some stories harder to read than others even before applying the MTL cancer.

As far as I know there's just one indexer of releases, and while you can tag them by COO you still can't filter them. At least I don't think of the site as being dedicated to any country in particular, so it's just an annoyance rather than an invasion...

Site is run by moralizing retards though. They censor things like s*x s*ave r*pe but not yaoi

It could just be that I'm turning too boomer and don't know where the proper Japanese only anime and manga and web/light novel hubs are anymore, but it's so hard to actually consume weebshit nowadays if you're not just going for whatever the biggest fad is.
 
proper Japanese only anime and manga
I think the concept of "cultural appropriation" is BS, so I think it's possible for people from anywhere to make Japanese-style manga and anime*. However such are usually made in Japan AFAIK. The American and Chinese equivalents are often if not usually noticeably different, from what I've seen. Like that Avatar show or the typical manhua.

*(if it's originally in another language it can be as if it were translated from Japanese)
 
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I think the concept of "cultural appropriation" is BS, so I think it's possible for people from anywhere to make Japanese-style manga and anime*. However such are usually made in Japan AFAIK. The American and Chinese equivalents are often if not usually noticeably different, from what I've seen. Like that Avatar show or the typical manhua.

*(if it's originally in another language it can be as if it were translated from Japanese)
I wouldn't mind as much if I legit couldn't tell that they're not from Japan, but if I'm just picking semi random things off a list of recent updates, I generally can...

On the manga side, I think Re:Birth is a great example of good Manga made by a non-Japanese creator. Re:Birth The Lunatic Taker was great. It had a certain style to it, but I think it's just that the artist is really good at drawing sexy ladies. Then the sequel was a webtoon. Ok, I never realized this was made by Koreans, but nbd that's acceptable if the story is good. Admittedly it's a little sad because I can never decide the story is good enough to get a physical edition of, but that doesn't apply to most stories anyways. It's a minor inconvenience in some cases.

The thing is, the tropes. Maybe it's because I have shit luck picking things based on titles but it's hard to not notice that Korean stories are all too often about grinding like you want to die in a web cafe. They're about doing things over and over again and finding the perfect secret passage to an OP happy ending. And Chinese stories spend too much time eating tiger dicks heavenly treasures and having heaven blessed bodies and shitting on people for not realizing how big ML's PP is not believing in ML before he unlocks his powers. I can handle a few stories like this but when it's basically every story I just want to filter them out.

And yes, I know Japanese stories have repeated tropes too. They're way too into isekai, underestimated OP powers, and rules lawyering. The thing is, reading about the 100th isekai'd Saintess is less grindy than reading about the 100th regressed grinder grinding their way to the top of the tower. Some tropes are more compatible with saturation than others.

Note that most places on this wiki, they use the term Donghua, so they don't get the benefit of the doubt that they're using anime in the sense that The Simpsons is anime.

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Look, I do enjoy me a little crafting murderhobo - it's like alchemy and a change of pace from auhauhau I'm so smart bringing modern technology to medieval times crafting stories.

But fuck it that isn't anime that's a clickbait empire mobile game ad. Don't call that anime.
 
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What's that?
Usually means jewing. It's just setting limits and ground rules only to make those limits meaningless. The limits are used to make it seem like the protagonist will have some kind of challenge to overcome, but actually that challenge is erased in the first 3 chapters and yet the story goes on...

For example, in Death Mage, the asshole God curses the protagonist to be unable to gain known jobs or experience when killing mobs. The protagonist then gains exp by letting everyone else do the killing for him, and he makes the job God create new jobs by introducing new concepts to the world. Lots of jobs are just the same concept in different cultures. Some jobs he automatically gets at max level as soon as he acquires them because he's over qualified.

In some story I can't remember the name of anymore, protagonist acts Korean and keeps redoing dungeons... By using his very Japanese underestimated shit tier short distance teleportation cheat skill. The skill description loses the restriction that he can only initiate it from inside a dungeon, so he bypasses dungeon access limits.

I shall survive with potions! is a little different in that there isn't a perceived limitation, (beyong only getting one cheat power), but the protagonist exploits the fuck out of the fine print anyways. She protagonist asks for the power to create any potion she wants in any vessel she wants, because depending on the world she gets sent to and the situation, a standard container might make her stick out like a sore thumb.

She then creates potions in bottles shaped like the planet (globes don't exist yet), jewelry, and swords. IIRC she even made the sword like an Evangelion progressive knife - it was really sharp and vibrated and a legit relic tier "potion" sword.
 
I've mentioned it before, but I've noticed this almost Pavlovian hostility to anime, joking or not.

It's almost as if it were "socially engineered"...

:thinking:
A lot of the hostility came from anime fans being really annoying online. Like MLP, you could not escape anime on the internet. Seeing something too much and overexposure to the obnoxious parts of a fanbase tends to breed contempt. Would Steven Universe have gotten the reputation it has if the fanbase wasn't known for being psychotic? Probably not.
 
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For example, in Death Mage, the asshole God curses the protagonist to be unable to gain known jobs or experience when killing mobs. The protagonist then gains exp by letting everyone else do the killing for him, and he makes the job God create new jobs by introducing new concepts to the world.
Sounds like a bootleg Lleu Llaw Gyffes.
 
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Usually means jewing. It's just setting limits and ground rules only to make those limits meaningless. The limits are used to make it seem like the protagonist will have some kind of challenge to overcome, but actually that challenge is erased in the first 3 chapters and yet the story goes on...

For example, in Death Mage, the asshole God curses the protagonist to be unable to gain known jobs or experience when killing mobs. The protagonist then gains exp by letting everyone else do the killing for him, and he makes the job God create new jobs by introducing new concepts to the world. Lots of jobs are just the same concept in different cultures. Some jobs he automatically gets at max level as soon as he acquires them because he's over qualified.

In some story I can't remember the name of anymore, protagonist acts Korean and keeps redoing dungeons... By using his very Japanese underestimated shit tier short distance teleportation cheat skill. The skill description loses the restriction that he can only initiate it from inside a dungeon, so he bypasses dungeon access limits.

I shall survive with potions! is a little different in that there isn't a perceived limitation, (beyong only getting one cheat power), but the protagonist exploits the fuck out of the fine print anyways. She protagonist asks for the power to create any potion she wants in any vessel she wants, because depending on the world she gets sent to and the situation, a standard container might make her stick out like a sore thumb.

She then creates potions in bottles shaped like the planet (globes don't exist yet), jewelry, and swords. IIRC she even made the sword like an Evangelion progressive knife - it was really sharp and vibrated and a legit relic tier "potion" sword.
I've found that Japenese isekai and jewery in general hand in hand, more so compared to Korean and their nonhuman bugman need to grow stronger and even the usual chinese goal of dabbing on bitches.
 
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Sounds like a bootleg Lleu Llaw Gyffes.
TO WIKIPEDIA!

I'm going to say in general, yes I see the parallels, but I would like to share this one specifically
a third tynged on him: that he shall never have a human wife.

So as to counteract Arianrhod's curse, Math and Gwydion:

[take] the flowers of the oak, and the flowers of the broom, and the flowers of the meadowsweet, and from those they conjured up the fairest and most beautiful maiden anyone had ever seen. And they baptized her in the way that they did at that time, and named her Blodeuedd.
In Death Mage, asshole God tried to curse protagonist to die as a baby before a wife could be an issue. Here's how that went:
The Goddess of Love and Life manages to redirect protagonist's soul and give him to a mother who would love him. Sadly, the mother still died when he was a baby.

Protagonist uses his death magic - which he obtained by being subjected to torture and used in human experimentation in his previous life - and binds his mother's soul to one of her bones.

He later resurrects his mother, and the Goddess intervenes and turns mother into Goddess' mortal incarnation.

Supposedly, according to spoilers, eventually protagonist and mother are convinced to marry because she technically was given a new body when she was resurrected, their bodies aren't really related biologically anymore, it's not incest. And soul wise? Honestly soul incest probably happens all the times because people reincarnate so much.

The Goddess of Love and Life is known for Lovin' lots of species and evil gods, and giving Life to new species, if you know what I mean. Monogamy isn't exactly a big thing in that setting. Protagonist has many non-incest wives as well.

Oh, and one of the males the Goddess fucked was one of Protagonist's previous reincarnation (no memories). That union created vampires, protagonist is a dhampir.

No idea how I would even chart a family tree there.
Tldr JAPAN.

I've found that Japenese isekai and jewery in general hand in hand, more so compared to Korean and their nonhuman bugman need to grow stronger and even the usual chinese goal of dabbing on bitches.
I'd guess Koreans avoid rules lawyering because their schtik is perfect unlocks. There's no need to bend the rules when you have regressed and know exactly how to get the hidden piece that is justifiably OP because nobody was supposed to find it.

And Chinese... Idk. Too much cultivation, I'm guessing if anyone tried to jew them they'd just murderhobo more. Jewing doesn't work as well when everyone's fists are certifiable registered weapons.
 
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