We Should Get To Destroy Shrines In Assassin's Creed Shadows, Actually - The people speaking out about historical accuracy and respect of cultures now are acting in bad faith, and studios are giving them legitimacy.

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Ubisoft has patched out the ability for players to destroy shrines and temples in Assassin’s Creed Shadows. The day one patch was released after a Japanese politician raised concerns that people might hypothetically try to reenact clips of shrines being defiled, and the Prime Minister of Japan said that these acts wouldn’t be tolerated.

I’ve already explained the Prime Minister’s reaction and how the entire conversation was largely in the context of an existing problem of tourists disrespecting sacred sites – just this week, a site featured in Ghost of Tsushima was closed for the same reason, despite that game not allowing you to destroy them anyway. I was very annoyed at the fact that this was framed as an issue of gamers potentially wanting to intentionally deface these monuments. As we all know, the vast majority of people are able to understand that you’re not supposed to slash up shrines with a katana, and that doing something in a video game isn’t actually going to instigate that in reality.

It’s All Manufactured Outrage​

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But what annoyed me more is that this hypothetical was essentially prompted by Assassin’s Creed detractors (which is perhaps too kind a word) who wanted to have a legitimate reason to heap backlash on Shadows. A lot of the noise thus far has been based around Yasuke, one of its protagonists, ‘not really being a samurai’, which is disrespectful to the Japanese people who wanted to be properly represented.

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Never mind that Yasuke is the only protagonist of an Assassin’s Creed game who actually has any basis in historical reality at all. Also, forget that Naoe, a Japanese woman, is a playable protagonist too.

Since that angle has failed to take – it doesn’t look great when your entire movement is based around ‘I don’t like the Black protagonist’ – the same bad actors are now once again trying to manufacture outrage on behalf of an entire nation by claiming that the destruction of shrines in a video game is disrespectful. Both angles are similar in that they claim it’s about respect for the Japanese people.

When Has Assassin’s Creed Ever Respected Anything?​

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It’s truly ridiculous to ask that from a series like Assassin’s Creed, a game that simply does not respect anything. This is the series that portrayed Cardinal Rodrigo Borgia, who became Pope and therefore the most deified man in the world’s biggest religion, as a Grand Master of the Templar Order. It gave us a game where we beat the snot out of the Pope. Assassin’s Creed Valhalla made an entire mechanic out of burning down monasteries, pillaging them, and using the stolen materials to upgrade your own settlement. If we’re talking about respecting religion, where’s the backlash to that?

Why does Japanese culture get special treatment? Is it not absurd to assume that the Japanese people are so sensitive that they can’t deal with a couple virtual broken tables in imaginary shrines in a series long known for letting you stab historical figures and parkour all over sacred places? Every religion is sacred to someone. If Ubisoft didn’t care then, then it shouldn’t care now.

To patch this out is, put simply, self-censorship. Worse, it has been triggered not by a government that actually cares about historical accuracy and respect for the sacred in video games, but by those who wanted a reason to force Ubisoft to capitulate. And capitulate it has.

It’s a small and probably unnoticeable change. I personally don’t care to destroy shrines in games or kill random bystanders, and I was never going to, because you control the buttons you press. Shadows doesn’t even incentivise the destruction of these shrines like in Valhalla; it’s an entirely incidental thing you can do if you’re mucking around. It doesn’t tell you that you should, and not even that you can – in fact it previously asked players to show respect before patching it out entirely – it’s just an application of video game physics that spans the whole game.

In Assassin’s Creed, we’ve scrambled up historical monuments. We’ve murdered historical figures in cold blood. We’ve allowed the series to present alternate histories and ourselves perpetuated them again and again. The people speaking out about historical accuracy and respect of cultures now are acting in bad faith, and studios are giving them legitimacy.

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I see no ideological hypocrisy here. All the other religions have fake gods and fake beliefs, so let their followers be protective of them. If someone wants to desecrate churches in a video game or whatever, that judgement, if any, will befall them come Apocalypse. This is the real reason, in my opinion, Christians don't get too uppity about the mockery of their religion. They have nothing to prove.
 
Never mind that Yasuke is the only protagonist of an Assassin’s Creed game who actually has any basis in historical reality at all.
Because they wanted to have a black lead so badly they thought that using using an actual historical figure as a base would shield them from the backlash.

It’s truly ridiculous to ask that from a series like Assassin’s Creed, a game that simply does not respect anything.
They went out of their way to respect the natives in assassin's creed 3. Going as far as to give Conner a unique native name because names are sacred to them and they didn't want to offend them by using a real one. They also game over you if you needlessly kill too many animals because it was against their culture.

And given that their offices in France weren't shot up I'm going to take a guess they were very respectful of Islam in mirage too.

This is the series that portrayed Cardinal Rodrigo Borgia, who became Pope and therefore the most deified man in the world’s biggest religion, as a Grand Master of the Templar Order.
And it was a pretty cool moment and had fun with it. Fist fighting the illuminati pope is a thousand times more respectful than having a black guy fuck the ancestor of the (still living) Japanese royal family who was known as being a super loyal and loving wife.
 
This is the biggest reason. The Johnny Somalis of the world will go to Japan and seek to emulate the destruction in the game for TikTok views. You can't fault the Japanese for wanting to make sure that doesn't happen.
I agree with your point, but disagree with how you're positioning it. I don't want to be that person that believes that video games are a root cause for anti-social behavior themselves. An outlet (as you described), sure. But not the main cause, people should be responsible for their own actions.

Ubisoft prides themselves with historical accuracy and multicultural collaboration with their Assassin's Creed series. What they've proven with Assassin's Creed: Shadows is that they could bastardize Japanese culture by rewriting their history and desecrating actual tragedies from their history as mere marketing for a product and accept it.

I'm fine with the Japanese government putting their foot down as it's blatantly disrespectful TO their culture, especially with Johnny Somali being the breaking point of how foreigners perceive their culture and conduct themselves in their country.
 
If I couldn’t torch the Jewish Temple in The Last Of Us Part 2, but I could make the statue of Virgin Mary in the Christian Church in that same video game into swiss cheese via bullets, I’d say there’s some favoritism going on there…
it's the most obvious shit in existence
these don't believe in anything; they just hate you and are willing to cooperate if it means subverting/humiliating someone else they hate
 
This is the part of the Shadows "outrage" that makes no sense at all. I don't give a fuck if you can do pretend things to a pretend place in a pretend game. And the only reason anyone cares about this is because Shadows is a game that everyone already hates for other good reasons.
 
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This is the series that portrayed Cardinal Rodrigo Borgia, who became Pope and therefore the most deified man in the world’s biggest religion, as a Grand Master of the Templar Order. It gave us a game where we beat the snot out of the Pope
I absolutely hate it when journalists attempt to compare a negative depiction of Pope Alexander VI (who is considered one of the most blatantly corrupt popes in history with very few defenders even within the church) to the frankly insulting decision to have a borderline-fictional black man run around Japan killing natives and vandalizing landmarks. The series has always been a bit loose with historical accuracy in the name of good storytelling, but there's a world of difference between having a notoriously corrupt Renaissance figure as your main villain and basically creating a Johnny Somali simulator.
 
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The series has always been a bit loose with historical accuracy in the name of good storytelling, but there's a world of difference between having a notoriously corrupt Renaissance figure as your main villain and basically creating a Johnny Somali simulator.
This is like saying GTA is a serial killer simulator because you can kill prostitutes.

Shadows is an offensive piece of shit. But that's not because the player can imitate Johnny Somali (who needs to be beaten until he's permanently maimed). I am not going to argue for limiting deductible environments because of "cultural sensitivity." Fuck that faggy shit.

Games journalists are scum. This one is accidentally right, like a broken clock.
 
I absolutely hate it when journalists attempt to compare a negative depiction of the Alexander VI (who is considered one of the most blatantly corrupt popes in history with very few defenders even within the church) to the frankly insulting decision to have a borderline-fictional black man run around Japan killing natives and vandalizing landmarks. The series has always been a bit loose with historical accuracy in the name of good storytelling, but there's a world of difference between having a notoriously corrupt Renaissance figure as your main villain and basically creating a Johnny Somali simulator.
Don't forget he was also the temporal sovereign of the Papal States, so in a sense beating the shit out of him is no different from beating the shit out of any king from that time period.

And well, the man deserved a hell of a lot worse than just getting his face caved in by Ezio.
 
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I absolutely hate it when journalists attempt to compare a negative depiction of the Alexander VI (who is considered one of the most blatantly corrupt popes in history with very few defenders even within the church) to the frankly insulting decision to have a borderline-fictional black man run around Japan killing natives and vandalizing landmarks. The series has always been a bit loose with historical accuracy in the name of good storytelling, but there's a world of difference between having a notoriously corrupt Renaissance figure as your main villain and basically creating a Johnny Somali simulator.
If they just absolutely had to have a black guy for financing reasons, they could have chosen an irreverent tone like GTA or Postal, and they could have leaned into the kill-natives-to-hiphop-beats aspect; it might have legitimately been funny. Gotten a different reception even. Almost like a Wu-Tang Shaolin type flavor.

Instead they insist on how "respectful" they are. And they make it a vewwy sewious story with lots of gravitas. Meanwhile still doing the Wu Tang.

Just stepped on their own feet, really.
 
Remember how a fan made patch to just remove them from a Spider Man game was decried as literal terrorism?
And they were merely replaced by American flags, you know, the only flags that would've existed flying at the time Spider-Man was created.
 
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I don't give a fuck; one more tool of humiliation designed specifically to weaken the fabric of coherent, non-infested ( for the time being ) societies until they can be bulldozed into economic zones fails. I -want- the subversives to be subverted, I want them to feel impotent and powerless and spend time on their corpo-owned rags and sloptube channels screaming into a void. Appeals to my sense of empathy and fair play are long exhausted; your knees will be broken by the will of the market under whatever justification can be made to do so or because we hate you. Fuck you and suffer.
 
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Why does Japanese culture get special treatment?

Because progressive retards like yourself have spent a decade and a half demonizing European culture while espousing the virtues of 'respecting' "other" cultures.

You're the idiots who are playing by the rules you set. You can't Uno Reverse this shit when people point out how hypocritical it is.
 
Funny the timing of the media's new found restraint and logic over this issue. If it was an arab or asian muslim shrine, indian (American or the country) or african.. Would they be this calm and reasonable? The "look what the series has done to the catholic church" rings so fucking hollow. (south park explained this best almost two decades ago) Christianity hasn't just been fair game but a favorite target for these elite fucktards! But only and exclusively so.


We should be able to destroy the shrines because it's a game and none of it is real. Ubisoft may be shit, but we don't need to limit freedom in a game.

This.. it's all so retarded.


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