Web Hosts 2022 - "Offensive" Content

sonichewbacca

sonichewbacca

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Anyone have recommendations for affordable and able webhosts. I really need a provider that values the right to freedom of speech will not abandon you upon a single complaint from some whiny autist. Thanks!

Other plus's are...
- DNS registration / hosting
- support for latest version of PHP, MySQL, etc.
- limited logging
- Can pay via crypto
- Integrated CDN propagation
 
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Probably an optimistic request.

You're going to have to define affordable, but generally speaking privacy is likely to cost more.

Null used to run a hosting service but it wasn't at bargain bin prices, for example. (I think he stopped because the farms getting DDOSed was affecting his clients).
 
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Perhaps there is a specific country I should be seeking hosting out?
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You should read through null's threads, he's been through this before. The US is the only option for countries, in any other country you will run into legal issues. The only problem with the US is faggot companies.
 
Afforadable no.

Orange website or Njalla are proabably your only options.
Njalla is a Commie cuck who will own your domain.
 
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Njalla probably a good first stop for domain registration. They take Monero.

They do hosting too but why make it easy for enemies? If you aren't hosting illegal stuff or obviously DMCA-able material, then there's a good chance that if you put it behind Cloudflare and disable shit like outgoing SMTP for registration emails (or find a emailing solution that hides your server IP) that CF won't rat your actual server host out to complainers. If they can't find who to complain to, then you're inherently better off. I think Frantech/BuyVM will take crypto, or you could go with the Cockbox guy.
 
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Frantech is one that fits almost all of the topics there, you can pay it with crypto and the storage is cheap but your server is bound to the local laws, so don't host pirated content on their EU servers. The owner is extremely shill and ignore all letters and requests that aren't sent by the police or judge.

edit: A service that uses frantech is bitchute
 
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Affordable: Host your own shit.

Free Speech: Host on Tor, I2P, or both.

Affordable + Free Speech: Host your own shit on Tor, I2P, or both.
 
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Godaddy faggot big pharma doesn't care about your stolen neopet nfts
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At a minimum copyright faggotry has become draconian on the western web, so that is reason enough if you're dealing with anything, even stuff that should be considered transformative. It's essentially radioactive at this point.
 
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Njalla is a Commie cuck who will own your domain.
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Yeah the founder is the biggest faggot and there's no real AUP but when I asked the guy on the fediverse about permitted content, his view was "nothing illegal" and he'd give people the chance to move if there was an issue.

The benefit of Njalla is not getting doxed à la epik. KF uses Cloudflare as its domain registrar so clearly they're resilient to whining, you just gotta manage the risk of your info being potentially leaked.
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Godaddy faggot big pharma doesn't care about your stolen neopet nfts
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Except if OP does anything worth a damn, they'll get fucked by Godaddy's shitty security practices, for instance: https://www.pcworld.com/article/443...le-in-twitter-account-hijacking-incident.html
sonichewbacca said:
Perhaps there is a specific country I should be seeking hosting out?
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US is fine if it's simply "offensive content".
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Learn to not be a nigger on the web and run your own virtual machine (at the very least) so you aren't relying on other people to run that stuff for you.
 
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If you want to host such content in $CURRENT_YEAR, go with an ISP that ignores abuse complaints, invest in server hardware and host yourself. Put domains behind cloudflare for good DNS and SSL management + IP masking
 
Regardless of which host you use, the most important thing is that your public server shouldn't be the actual host of the controversial material.

The server that users access should be a reverse proxy to the actual server, this makes switching hosts in the event of being shut down quicker, and it also ensures no data loss in such event (though you should have backups anyway).

In terms of finding a good host, (for the public-facing server), I'd suggest looking for "bulletproof" hosting providers. These providers... basically just ignore abuse complaints, which is the main way people will try to get controversial sites taken down.
 
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Xia Dynasty said:
In terms of finding a good host, (for the public-facing server), I'd suggest looking for "bulletproof" hosting providers. These providers... basically just ignore abuse complaints, which is the main way people will try to get controversial sites taken down.
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This is basically what I used to believe but I'm not sure how true it actually is for the 'reverse proxy' situation, if you factor the DDoS risk into things.

Yes, you can pay a guy in 'certain countries' three times the going rate for a VPS to completely ignore even the odd legitimate threats from the FBI because he's never going to holiday anywhere the US could extradite him because the krokodil isn't as good in Estonia or Poland as it is back home.... BUT... if your free speech website is attracting attacks that could affect his 0nl1n3 v1@gR@ st0r3, or stop him and his clients from being able to access services like Cloudflare for their own businesses, that calculus is going to change.
 
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Yes, you can pay a guy in 'certain countries' three times the going rate for a VPS to completely ignore even the odd legitimate threats from the FBI because he's never going to holiday anywhere the US could extradite him because the krokodil isn't as good in Estonia or Poland as it is back home.... BUT... if your free speech website is attracting attacks that could affect his 0nl1n3 v1@gR@ st0r3, or stop him and his clients from being able to access services like Cloudflare for their own businesses, that calculus is going to change.
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I think you're right about that, I guess a good alternative would be VanwaTech's hosting plans (onion link) It's possible that Vanwa's DDoS protection services don't forward abuse complaints/give the name of your actual host, so that would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

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This is basically what I used to believe but I'm not sure how true it actually is for the 'reverse proxy' situation, if you factor the DDoS risk into things.
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I still think that running a reverse proxy is a good idea, no matter which host you end up with. Being able to switch in 2 hours rather than 2 days is extremely valuable, I see very little reason not to do so.
 
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I think you're right about that, I guess a good alternative would be VanwaTech's hosting plans (onion link) It's possible that Vanwa's DDoS protection services don't forward abuse complaints/give the name of your actual host, so that would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.


I still think that running a reverse proxy is a good idea, no matter which host you end up with. Being able to switch in 2 hours rather than 2 days is extremely valuable, I see very little reason not to do so.
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Yeah, if you are genuinely targeted but not at quite the same level as KF, reverse proxies are a godsend. If I was in that situation I would be basically just be cycling through domain names and random VPS providers that take crypto, and setting up a new Cloudflare account every time because it hides the actual reverse proxy location for a while and also fuck that faggot Matthew Prince.

The problem is that that's very bad as far as maintaining a consistent clearnet brand... you want users to just be able to go to kiwifarms.net. Sites that aren't actually being targeted but pretend to be like Daily Stormer don't do this... they stick around on the same domain for a long time, because it would be bad for the brand to change URLs too frequently.
 
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