Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[beardium]

Oh there have been a number of them. They are hard to spot because they get insta banned and unpersoned on places like PULL and RetardErA.

I for once thank them for banning all who don't take their side. Dumb cunts like Marzgurl get too cocky and end up spilling all the BEANS to further proof civil conspiracy.

 

[SinglePlayerCarl]

Oh there have been a number of them. They are hard to spot because they get insta banned and unpersoned on places like PULL and RetardErA.

Remember the silent majority?

That's them.

The people who show up to the livestreams and carry the gospel back to the masses.

 

[TheLastJoestar]

Oh there have been a number of them. They are hard to spot because they get insta banned and unpersoned on places like PULL and RetardErA.

When your echo chamber stops solid advice from getting to you, and continues to blow rainbow smoke up your ass, then you act suprised when a million dollar lawsuit hits your ass. To the people trying to tell them to shut up, it's deeply appreciated even if we disagree.

But now, with this level of corrupted damage control? It's over for her. It's been a year coming, Marz but #ChangeTheChannel

 

[Captain Manning]

Lord Beard was wise in not filing the TROs.

He would have to wait until the case is filed to do the TRO shit. It was just filed.

Last I heard, he's still on the fence about doing it.

Obviously, I think the overwhelming opinion of KF is that he shouldn't (because we document lulzy people who say stupid shit in public). @AnOminous speculated very early on that he could, and might, but I dunno if he's arguing that he should.

 

[AnOminous]

Yea and its not like Ty would concede keeping all the names redacted from any public records, just doesn't seem to be his style.

All of the devastation to Vic's career has been public. Some star chamber proceeding where the accusations are not fully and publicly aired and subject to cross examination is not what he's going to want and not what will repair his reputation.

They could crucify the man in public, so they'll have to explain themselves in public too.

He would have to wait until the case is filed to do the TRO shit. It was just filed.

He could have filed with the complaint and sought a TRO ex parte before the parties were served. Also the opening petition doesn't request injunctive relief in general, for whatever reason, quite possibly because it would be pointless at this stage in terms of preventing further damages.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

He would have to wait until the case is filed to do the TRO shit. It was just filed.

Last I heard, he's still on the fence about doing it.

Obviously, I think the overwhelming opinion of KF is that he shouldn't (because we document lulzy people who say stupid shit in public). @AnOminous speculated very early on that he could, and might, but I dunno if he's arguing that he should.

I was of the Pro-TRO mindset, but the spergout by the main players since the suit was filed convinces me that 'let'em riot' is a good thing.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Vic isn't being sued. At least not yet and maybe not at all.

If they can't produce any evidence to support their allegations, they're completely fucked, so obviously they're going to try to produce something.

Is the "pulling of the hair and whispering in the ear" actual corroboration? Can they even use that? They can't even remember what was whispered to them, other than it being sexual, which is weird that they would remember that but not a semblance of what was said to them. I think one of them mentioned "silence is not consent", but that sounds like actual fanfiction and no one else, from my knowledge, seemed to corroborate that.

 

[VermilionFluttershy]

Okay, once more... with feeling... and please pay attention.

Vic doesn't have a cause of action for being FIRED. Funimation and/or Sony would be legally within their right to do that, providing it agrees with the terms of his contract (which is probably written in a way that chiefly benefits the employer). This is one of the rare things KickVic is right about (although they massively misunderstand the case... read on).

They could have privately gone up to Vic and said "Vic, we don't want to work with you anymore, Bye." He'd have no recourse as long as his contract allowed for that.

He has a cause of action against Funimation because they sent out a Tweet saying that he was fired as a result of a an investigation, with an implication that that investigation uncovered criminal malfeasance and/or other really bad shit that is career damaging.

This is NOT a wrongful termination case. This is a defamation and TI case.

He can't sue just for being canned. At most, that's all Sony did. And we're not even 100% sure on who had final say. The mere fact he was terminated DOESN'T MATTER. The fuckup was on how Funimation and the inmates in their mental asylum publicly handled this.

Get it?

Just a thought, but maybe we could get a google doc or something going that has all of this info in it?

Thing is, every time we get mentioned, more new people show up. Ty nor Nick has really shared the extent of our findings. When these people see just how much we have posted, they're likely to have some questions. Having all of this in one place not only gets the newbies caught up (without them having to scroll through over 1000 pages) but also keeps those of us more knowledgeable about this from having to repeatedly answer the same questions over and over again.

Again, just an idea that I thought might be helpful.

 

[AnOminous]

And thank you, that’s kind of what I thought. Those opening demands for discovery of all of Soy Boy’s hundreds of victims pretty much prevents any attempt at pulling in some surprise costhot at trial the way these morons think is

One sanction for failure to disclose responses to interrogatories at this stage is if you subsequently try to bring in shit you should have disclosed then, you can be prohibited from doing so. In extreme cases, it can even result in you simply automatically losing your case.

 

[Nobleberry]

Vic hired a lawyer and stfu. What about that is childish?

This. If there was one takeaway an objective observer should find relevant it's this.

It was news to me, too. Note that a lot of the things that people have claimed are "errors" in the complaint are actually entirely true, and that BHBH did their homework and has better and more accurate information than anyone else did, including us, and did in-depth research into the legal implications of that information.

If I could caress a comment. The dunce-hats that are denigrating the lawsuit are so woefully out of their depth it's breathtaking. The thing reads like pronouncement from Azrael. To a layman mind you. It scares me like a gun in the hand of a wronged southern father and I'm not even the trespasser, just an onlooker.

Here's my question: What is it gonna take for these idiots to finally realize that A) This is really happening and WILL have real consequences and B) them commenting like they have been will only make things worse?

Waiting by the river Styx recounting the days of their living breath.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Hmmm? Interesting. A few of the “non nerd” political/social/cultural commentators are starting to pick up on the lawsuit.

I can only assume that the left wing yellow press will soon begin a “burn the white male” campaign of life ending defamation as usual?

 

[LobotomizedFerret]

Just a thought, but maybe we could get a google doc or something going that has all of this info in it?

Thing is, every time we get mentioned, more new people show up. Ty nor Nick has really shared the extent of our findings. When these people see just how much we have posted, they're likely to have some questions. Having all of this in one place not only gets the newbies caught up (without them having to scroll through over 1000 pages) but also keeps those of us more knowledgeable about this from having to repeatedly answer the same questions over and over again.

Again, just an idea that I thought might be helpful.

Someone already has that covered. @SinglePlayerCarl, I believe.

 

[Nobunaga]

Here's my question: What is it gonna take for these idiots to finally realize that A) This is really happening and WILL have real consequences and B) them commenting like they have been will only make things worse?

Not even after losing everything will these idiots learn

 

[Captain Manning]

Just a thought, but maybe we could get a google doc or something going that has all of this info in it?

What info? You mean a FAQ like Tora-San was writing for the KickVic side?

From my point of view, the best document that explains who is being sued, and why, is written by BHBH. There's a thread for discussing it here.

Now, granted, in the case of the termination red harring KickVic likes to throw up, it's an issue of omission, but "wrongful termination" isn't one of the causes of action. That's what people need to get through their thick skulls. The causes of action are literally enumerated (as you do in a lawsuit).

Thing is, every time we get mentioned, more new people show up. Ty nor Nick has really shared the extent of our findings.

I think they've done pretty decent. See above. For questions about WHY he's suing, under what causes of action, it should be answerable by reading that 27 page legal filing. Hell, even the first couple of pages would suffice.

I get that on some of the the more nuanced and evidence-related stuff, this can get confusing, and an argument can be made for some better summarizing. OTOH, I notice there's a lot of people that can't be arsed to read the summaries already available. I'm not inclined to help the people that fall into the later group. It's annoying.

But I'm just riding shotgun over the OP of the actual lawsuit thread ATM. If somebody wants to write such a FAQ, be my guest.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Obviously, I think the overwhelming opinion of KF is that he shouldn't (because we document lulzy people who say stupid shit in public).

Honestly a bit of me disagrees. Nothing these chucklefucks have shown so far suggests they're capable of shutting up about the case. Filing a TRO could very well lead to us getting the glorious lulz of them continuing to sperg out, compounded by watching Ty and the judge tear them a new one for breaching it.

 

[OldAmishRenegade]

Sooooo... a thought I had at the very beggining of Nick's stream tonight:

"Oh, God. They're gonna start going after Haberkorn hardcore now!"

Probably. That was pretty good confirmation that Todd is on Vic's side not only for necessity. The kickvic VAs hate Nick more than they hate Vic, so for him to willingly do a cutesy opening for Nick's show says a lot about where he stands on all of this.

His distaste for heterosexual males being touchy/feely seems pretty selective.

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I wonder if Jamie and his husband got EXPLICIT CONSENT from Joe?

That's his husband? Jesus, I thought that was his twin. Where on the narcissism spectrum does fucking a clone of yourself fall?

 

[quickthrowaway]

One of Geekdom's toadies and panel absentee, MozillaVulpix, is crying on Kanzenshuu that Ty Beard is bullying the defendants. Completely missing the irony as to what has happened to Vic. It's too bad these guys won't get caught by any lawsuit.

Also the Captain Awesome guy who continues to clutch his pearls about Beard's behaviour claims to be a lawyer earlier in the thread. I haven't brought it up cause I think they are full of shit. If not, I'd hate to get this beta faggot as my lawyer.

 

[repentance]

Man, people at Funi just don't know when to shut the fuck up, do they?

They appear to be operating under the misapprehension that "they can't sue all of us".

 

[RodgerDodger]

He could have filed with the complaint and sought a TRO ex parte before the parties were served. Also the opening petition doesn't request injunctive relief in general, for whatever reason, quite possibly because it would be pointless at this stage in terms of preventing further damages.

I honestly think Ty has figured out that doing anything to shut these complete morons up at this point would be against his and his clients best interests. The damage was already done reputation wise. But they keep generating more and more evidence and causes of action every fucking day. The defendants are doing much of his discovery for him, just by being complete dipshits on twitter. Ron is openly trying to win his case in the court of twitter opinion, and feeding so much useful information, why the fuck would you want to stop it? Part of Ty’s case will just be handing a binder of Ron’s Twitter feed to the judge and jury and watching them recoil in horror from the soul laid bare within that twat storm. Why TRO when you can make him pay for each Tweet come the end?

 

[AnOminous]

When your echo chamber stops solid advice from getting to you, and continues to blow rainbow smoke up your ass, then you act suprised when a million dollar lawsuit hits your ass.

Echo chambers get you what you deserved. You can block some guy on the Internet but when comes knocking at the door you're fucked and you deserve it for being a cowardly idiot who thinks facts can just be magicked away with some soywords.