Weeb Wars - aka The TL;DR Thread & Other Announcements

What was the main purpose of separating it from Community Watch?

At this point I genuinely can't tell if you're being disingenuous or are just plain stupid, so let me try the nicer of the two options.

The original thread was updating at a speed that made it both difficult to find information on specific individuals and time-consuming to catch up on, because believe it or not, some Kiwis aren't literal basement dwellers and have jobs and families that take priority over autistic internet drama about chinese cartoons.

Further, the content in said thread had reached a point where what were previously individuals of contextual interest only have since proven to be full-blown lolcows, and thus making specific threads about them to gather and clarify useful information logically followed.

TL;DR: null is trying to make this shit easier to follow and keep track of in light of it's increasing entertainment value because this is a website for laughing at stupid people.

That make sense or shall I rewrite it using words no longer than five letters?
 
The thread has ballooned like a whale to almost 1000 pages and now weebgate has an entire board.

I'm glad I don't keep up with the drama.

It could easily become like Gamergate but this "cause" has a leader that has been able to keep things in order.
How widespread is weebgate now?
 
How widespread is weebgate now?

Hard to know since most anime communities are run by sjws that ban what they deem to be controversial topics.

Most gaming communities like Resetera and Facepunch are #ListenandBelieve while sites like 4Chan and 8Chan largely don't give a shit due to their hostility to "e-celeb nonsense" and their apathy to dubs. Alot of the Gamergate communities like KotakuInAction also don't give a shit because they view Vic as an evil religious fundamentalist.

It seems entirely focused on Twitter, Youtube and Kiwifarms. The MGTOW and Black Twitter communities have latched onto Vic and the anime Youtubers and anime news websites are near universally anti-vic.
 
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So weebgate is still pretty much just an American thing?

It is since it’s about the American English dub of dragonball.

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Are there any good pro-Vic lolcows? It seems fairly lopsided. I’ve read some cringe from random nobodies on Twitter and YouTube comments but are there any significant pro-Vic lolcows?
 
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That's funny considering i was reprimanded for not reading 700+ pages. I feel like activity will be reduced after the move, but what do I know?

Anyways, my prediction still stands.
I disagree. As long as the cows involved here keep sperging out and acting like complete retards, the forum will have some activity. I don't know if you've noticed, but these people are pretty fucking hilarious.

Generally I'd say that the more lawsuit info there is, the more overall activity there will be when it comes to general discussion, but the thing to keep in mind is that these lawsuits could take years. That's a lot of time for lots of different stuff to happen.

And it might feel like things are slower (now that things are more neatly divided) but I'd say the post count will remain about the same. Despite the fact that I think this will be a "slow-burn" subforum, when there was info, the old thread moved quick. I don't see why that would change now.
 
DBZ should have ended with the conclusion of the Cell Sega and 99% of dubs are shit. This is just good drama with lots of retarded people to laugh at.

So weebgate is still pretty much just an American thing?

Weebgate is a black people, MGTOW and people with a personal connection to Vic thing (there is alot of them apparently).

There is also the laugh at retarded people crowd.

It is since it’s about the American English dub of dragonball.

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Are there any good pro-Vic lolcows? It seems fairly lopsided. I’ve read some cringe from random nobodies on Twitter and YouTube comments but are there any significant pro-Vic lolcows?

The MGTOW weeb crowd. Raging Golden Eagle, Turd Flinging Monkey, etc.

Digibro is probably the closest medium sized youtuber to being pro-Vic in the sense that he suspects Vic but is also aware of the retarded Sjws that manufacture evidence. Pretty much every weeb youtube personality is either full on anti-vic or apathetic because it related to the Dragonball dub.

The black twitter aspect of this has been largely ignored but its worth checking up on every once and a while.
 
It is since it’s about the American English dub of dragonball.

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Are there any good pro-Vic lolcows? It seems fairly lopsided. I’ve read some cringe from random nobodies on Twitter and YouTube comments but are there any significant pro-Vic lolcows?

Depends on what you mean by good. If you are talking about decent people who happened to be lolcows, then it's subjective.
If you are talking about straight-up lolcows, try this guy:

There is YouTube personality called Perfection aka TheSuperItachi. The dude is a leech who picks up the crumbs that Nick Rekieta and others leave behind. He also has a hate boner for Geekdom101.
There is a 6 Hour stream where he was exposed as the lolcow that he is:
 
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Are there any good pro-Vic lolcows? It seems fairly lopsided. I’ve read some cringe from random nobodies on Twitter and YouTube comments but are there any significant pro-Vic lolcows?
Depends on what you mean by good. If you are talking about decent people who happened to be lolcows, then it's subjective.
If you are talking about straight-up lolcows, try this guy:

There is YouTube personality called Perfection aka TheSuperItachi. The dude is a leech who picks up the crumbs that Nick Rekieta and others leave behind. He also has a hate boner for Geekdom101.
There is a 6 Hour stream where he was exposed as the lolcow that he is:
Perfection is such a fuck up, he single handedly makes the other side look competent. I was told Geekdom was a sperg to watch out for and mistakenly watched Perfection’s video on him.

I came in primed and ready to see how much of a lolcow Geekdom was, Perfection was such a mess of impotent click baiting autism that even if he “reports” water is wet I would have to doubt it.
 
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Perfection is such a fuck up, he single handedly makes the other side look competent. I was told Geekdom was a sperg to watch out for and mistakenly watched Perfection’s video on him.

I came in primed and ready to see how much of a lolcow Geekdom was, Perfection was such a mess of impotent click baiting autism that even if he “reports” water is wet I would have to doubt it.

ShaggyDawg did a play by play for anyone who wants to see the contents without comitting 7 hours to watchign it on 1x speed.


Alright, so it took me nearly all day but I finally managed to get time stamps on things in that whole 6 hour stream exposing Perfection @SinglePlayerCarl @Thales_of_Miletus @Captain Manning and anyone else interested in that whole beef, here you go. I'll highlight good lol's or interesting points. Also warning: Long ass post incoming.

Here's the vid link again:


03:30 Stream Starts/MBA on the backstory to why he’s streaming now and the whole Perfection Drama

07:29 Story time into the Gay Ops MBA and the league ran on Perfection. (Effectively this is debunking all his response to videos calling him out)
  • 10:46 Deleted User=Perfection Alt Account
    • 53:25 Geekdom says Perfection claims the account is fake
    • 13:14 Proving Perfection had the pedo discord
    • 16:12 Totally SpiesTM (16:53 “All I had to do to get his trust was to post hentai”)
    • 1:02:13-1:03:00 Discord Name Colours Changing
  • Pedofection & Hentai Girls
    • 29:09
    • 12:19 HE TRIED TO FUCK A 17 YO BOY!!!
    • 1:04:42-1:05:40 “Lemme suck ya dick Big Dick Rodney”
    • 47:31 – 49:10
    • 49:33-50:00
    • 50:21-53:25
    • 55:02
    • 59:41-1:00:30
    • 1:01:00-1:02:10
    • 1:03:05-1:04:06
    • 1:04:23-1:04:40
    • 1:06:56-1:08:00
    • 1:11:42-1:13:36
    • 1:36:52 He ain’t family friendly
  • 34:03 Debunking Perfection’s Geekdom Vids
    • 35:35 He doxed Terez and BulmaBunny
    • 35:46/1:15:35-1:15:55/1:27:40-1:29:00 He hardly gets stream views without some controversy (eg. Geekdom Exposed/Vic situation)
    • 39:07 Perfection starts trying to defend himself on his own stream
    • 39:51 Keyblades chosen vs Geekdom beef
  • 44:10 Doxxing Perfection
    • 44:27/1:13:40-1:14:55 FUCKING PRICELESS FUSION DANCE!!!
    • 45:59/1:08:18 Gofundme because he and his sister were apparently homeless
    • 1:10:12-1:11:40/1:44:14 Pics
    • 1:21:55-1:26:31 “Get Out that woman House”
    • 1:29:26 He has a criminal record, MBA threatens to expose it
    • 1:30:17 Perfection is apparently 28
Perfection tries defending himself (before joining the discord)
  • 57:30-59:40 Perfection tries to invite MBA on a google hangout-MBAs declines and explains why
  • 1:04:07-01:04:20 Perfection calls MBA a coward on his stream
  • 1:05:40-1:05:50 “Fake Accounts/Fake Pictures”
  • 1:15:59-1:20:30 Takes his stream down and starts another stream to ignore MBA
  • 1:39:30 – 1:40:28/1:41:49 – 1:44:10/1:46:42 – 1: MBA: “I’ll bring his ass on my stream right now”
  • 1:49:06/1:50:43 – 1:51:53 Perfection tries to get MBA join his discord
  • 1:49:50 “He gonna put you in your place MBA”
  • 1:50:09 Perfection agrees to join the discord
  • 1:52:11 – 2:00:20 Perfection asks for an invite to MBA’s discord (idiots in the chat mess up one time use link, link doesn’t work because he has a banned account on MBAs server + other technical difficulties)
1:00:30 Kals Kingdom joins in the stream chat
1:26:40 Oppai Senpai Joins
  • 1:30:37 Drops $50, MBA says he’s going to use it to buy Perfection’s criminal record
1:30:45 – 1:36:50 MBA Rant on Perfection (happens throughout the whole stream tbh, can’t be arsed to actually notarise all of it)

1:38:18 – 1:39:29/1:40:30 – 1:41:47 They read some of the comments on Perfections current stream
1:48:20 Prince Vegeta joins the chat
1:49:34 Stream link starts getting spammed throughout twitter
2:00:21 Perfection joins the chat

Meat & Potatoes

2:01:47 – 2:03:20 Perfection explains why he brought up MBAs wife and kids in the video he put up that day + MBAs response

2:03:21 – 2:04:20 Perfections live streams and subs

2:04:20 – 2:04:52 Pedofection

2:04:54 – 2:05:40 Debate on Codesly, Kal’s Kingdom etc. (basically perfection thinks it’s a coincidence everyone who’s watching the stream dissing him is a person who hates him)

2:05:46 – 2:06:12/2:07:43 – 2:10:45 Debate on Geekdom cheating on his wife and Perfection’s videos on the topic

2:06:17 – 2:06:50 “Respect the guest on your stream”

2:06:42 – 2:07:32 Tommy Sotomayor and MBA Squashed beef a year ago

2:07:33 – 2:07:42 “I showed proof against your daddy Geekdom”

2:10:46 – 2:11:48 UnrealEntGaming, Subs and Views

2:11:49 – 2:13:32 Perfection is working and debunking the house dox + MBAs response

2:13:33 – 2:71:29 MBA and Perfection debating on why MBA has a problem with Perfection and debunking his “evidence” against Geekdom

2:17:30 Oppai Senpai Joins

2:17:47 – 2:18:35 Debating the Dox on BulmaBunny and Terez

2:18:37 – 2:21:28/3:01:19 – 3:03:00/3:03:56 – 3:05:36 Oppai talks to Perfection on his videos, research and ethics

2:21:30 – 2:22:02 Next Level joins, says he has evidence of perfection lying and leaves

2:22:02 – 2:25:24 Perfection and MBA’s relationship/conflict (+ the #MeToo Movement and outrage culture)

2:25:24 – 2:29:57/2:45:12 – 2:50:45/2:58:28 – 2:59:40 Debate on Perfections multiple discords + accounts and pedo msgs

2:29:59 - 2:31:06 Perfection taking shots at MBA for dropping out of college, MBAs savage responses (2:30:49 - 2:31:01 OOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!)

2:31:07 – 2:32:06 Oppai tries to help Perfection make his channel better

2:32:08 – 2:38:23 They show Perfection’s link to his pedo discord + Perfection’s response

2:38:24 – 2:40:30/2:50:47 – 2:57:00 Oppai talks about a Perfection video being taken down by YT cos he threatened violence on someone else + Perfections denial

2:40:32 – 2:41:12/2:42:50 – 2:44:55 T-Rez and her copyright claims

2:41:13 – 2:42:48 Debate on why Perfection doesn’t just make vids on WeebWars/Vic situation + Perfection’s Response

2:57:01 – 2:58:10 Perfection’s hypocrisy

2:59:41 – 3:0118 Perfection Calls MBA a coward + MBAs response

3:03:02 – 3:03:55 MBA addresses Perfection’s obsession with Geekdom

3:05:38 – 3:06:30 Perfection & BulmaBunny

3:06:41 Geekdom Joins

Spergy Autism Begins

3:06:48 – 3:07:20 Perfection, Shut up and let Geekdom talk

3:07:22 – 3:08:12/3:10:22 – 3:11:34 Geekdom: “I’ve moved past drama and be at peace”
  • 3:11:07 – 3:11:20 Apparently Funimation don’t/can’t work with Geekdom because Toei is mad at him for spoiling the return of super (that has yet to be officially announced)
3:08:13 – 3:08:38 Perfection leaves, Coward

3:08:40 Perfection returns

3:09:14 – 3:10:20 ALEX JONES!!! Oppai on Ethics, research and bans on YT

3:11:35 – 3:12:12 Geekdom claims Perfection edited the audio where he says he hates db fans

3:12:14 – 3:17:10/3:17:51 – 3:18:16 Geekdom addresses Perfection on the multiple vids he made
  • 3:13:31 Forneverworld and Geekdom apparently squashed their beef. (Idk whether they’re still talking tho, given their opposing stances on the Vic situation and the way Fornever was targeted by people in Geekdom’s circle)
  • 3:13:54 Geekdom doesn’t work for Funi
  • 3:15:05 Apparently doesn’t want to get involved in Vic drama (but constantly likes comments or things around KickVic movement) and debunks the relationship bet. Himself and Vic
  • 3:15:20 That shit is totally going to court
  • 3:16:08 Perfection: “When are you about to be done?” (Everyone in the voice chat dog piles him)
  • 3:16:30 – 3:16:50 Kendamu Z
  • 3:17:03 Geekdom “I don’t doxx people”
3:17:10 – 3:17:50 MBA takes control of the chat again and addresses Perfections views if he doesn’t bring up drama

3:18:18 – 3:20:57 Perfection claims Geekdom started the beef over two years ago (then starts explaining it)
  • 3:19:47 – 3:20:57 Geekdom disputes Perfections claims that he steps on channels with smaller subs by claiming that he has done over 70 collaborations with channels smaller than him. MBA agrees.
  • 3:20:20 – 3:20:57 Perfection: “Cos he wanted you to stop roasting him” Geekdom: “He still does it”
3:21:04 – 3:23:52 Perfection challenges their logic on their evidence vs his evidence. MBA responds.
  • 3:22:38 – 3:23:11 Geekdom addresses the screenshot of him allegedly cheating on his wife
3:23:53 – 3:24:53 Geekdom addresses Perfection on bringing up his beefs from the past
  • 3:24:14 Prince Vegeta Joins the chat
3:24:53 – 3:29:27 Perfection finally reveals what Geekdom did to him personally (they were crap talking him behind his back on a discord server, while he was in the server with Codesly). Geekdom responds
  • 3:26:09 J-Cloud Joins the chat
  • 3:28:30 – 3:29:27 MBA adds Keyblades Chosen, Geekdom talks about Keyblade as well, saying they squashed their beef, Keyblade says he’s disappointed in Perfection because he slandered Geekdom
3:29:28 – 3:30:25 Geekdom on Perfection’s personal life issues
  • 3:30:20 Resident King rejoins the Chat
  • 3:30:23 Matt the story teller rejoins the chat
3:30:25 – 3:31:40 Addressing Perfection bringing up old beefs

3:31:40 – 3:35:54 Geekdom addressing his own arrogance, ego and racism etc. Perfection response
  • 3:34:38 Apparently Geekdom’s father was part black
3:35:45 – 3:38:09 Back on the Geekdom Cheating allegations
  • 3:56:39 ORGY!!!
3:38:09 – 3:39:20 Perfection’s Claims that Geekdom sold out Vic for a role at Funi
  • 3:38:40 – 3:38:47 Geekdom confirms the voice acting role he bragged about on Twitter was for MasakoX not Funi
3:39:34 – 3:40:48 Prince Vegeta talks about BulmaBunny and him dating
  • 3:40:05 – 3:40:21 BulmaBunny had sex with someone, Not Geekdom, but Geekdom knows who it was (someone in the call)
3:41:00 - 3:46:50 Debate again on Perfection making videos on Geekdom and how to address and resolve beefs (DMs exist)
  • 3:43:00 – 3:43:30 Perfection makes the point that he never said any of the beefs he brought up were present beefs, he only wanted to make it known what Geekdom has done in the past
  • 3:44:05 – 3:46:10 Geekdom explains what happened with Team infinite (VoiceOfMalzar Twitter = Mark Malzar)
3:46:53 – 3:48:39 Perfection explains that he doesn’t clout chase (brings up going after Rhymestyle in the past, and then dropping the beef when he realised that Rhymestyle was a decent person). MBA and Oppai replies

3:48:41 – 3:49:37 Perfection claims everyone is ganging up on him
  • 3:48:54 Geekdom agrees that they shouldn’t gang up on Perfection but wants the same respect Perfection gave to Rhymestyle when they were beefing
Things get fucking Repetitive (and I can’t be arsed if I missed something from here on forward)
3:49:40 – 3:57:42 Perfection, Oppai and Geekdom address his fake facts in Perfection vids

3:57:45 – 4:06:53 Perfection expose vids
  • 4:00:59 Emosh Joins the chat
  • 4:01:43 Geekdom shows how many collabs he’s done with smaller channels (basically jerking off himself off, Majority of the people on the list are in his circle/his friend’s)
  • 4:04:26 Geekdom on why ANBU Black Ops Vid was taken down
  • 4:05:55 – 4:06:46 Prince Vegeta turns the chat to Perfection’s comment on Prince Vegeta vs BulmaBunny and sexualising characters
  • 4:06:15 Geekdom asks for someone to bring in Chuck the cyber cuck (another of Geekdom’s friends) in the text chat
  • 4:06:35 Carthu Joins the chat
4:06:57 – 4:09:21 Forgiveness and Perfection’s Channel

4:09:21 – 4:14:25 Perfection comments on where Geekdom is getting his ‘false’ info from on him (Codesly) and why Geekdom doesn’t like him + Geekdom response
  • 4:10:17 Geekdom’s follow list (he never addresses why he follows Soye from more than a year back, but he is following Vic so Perfection lied)
4:14:30 – 4:17:10/4:18:00 – 4:20:05/4:20:55 Perfection views and subs

4:17:17 – 4:18:00 Geekdom: “Look at all the good stuff I’ve done”

4:20:08 – 4:20:54 Geekdom apologises and explains

4:21:03 – 4:30:30 Geekdom and Oppai offer to squash the beef. Perfection tries to weasel out of it (This could literally be the title of the rest of the stream)
  • 4:22:41 Oppai tells Perfection to get everything he has left to expose on everyone else out now and delete/private the vids made
  • 4:23:43 Prince Vegeta: “I don’t like your face Geekdom” Geekdom: “Yeah I look like uncle fester”
  • 4:24:00 MBA: “Geekdom I think you’re the fanboy king”
  • 4:24:56 – 4:26:56 Perfection: “Why do you dox people Geekdom?” Geekdom: “I don’t” (technically yes he does, it’s all public info)
  • 4:29:02 Perfection’s name is Carrian
4:30:32 – 4:32:10 Perfection: “I’m not doing this for me, I’m doing this for the community”

4:32:10 – 4:52:50 Trying to squash the beef again. Perfection doesn’t want to (again)
  • 4:32:38 Youtuber’s in the chat
  • 4:33:25 A #Humblebrag by Geekdom on super
  • 4:34:11 Emosh joins on voice chat (for who knows what reason, they were getting nowhere with Perfection anyway, and Emosh literally just reiterates the same points the others made several times)
  • 4:35:15 Geekdom asks Emosh (who he’s had issues with previously but resolved, so “unbiased opinion”) to vouch for him that the community likes him
  • 4:37:44 Perfection on why his sources would probably be afraid to come forward to back up his claims
  • 4:39:31 Prince Vegeta: “If you’re about the community, why haven’t you made a vid on me yet?”
  • 4:44:12 MBA: “But who are you to decide who is hurting the community?”
  • 4:45:51 Wife/Mother/Grandmother Debate
  • 4:46:26 Geekdom: “What do you want from me to end this?” Perfection: “Undo the pain you’ve done to the community”
  • 4:47:13 J-Cloud: “Stop talking to him, He’s a brick wall”
  • 4:49:00 Geekdom apologises to anyone he’s wronged
  • 4:51:54 “Ya want him to suck your dick bruh, is that it?”
  • 4:52:10 Hitomi Tanaka
4:52:52 – 5:00:03 Perfection gives his demands for Geekdom and everyone’s response to it
  • 4:53:20 “Voice of the people”
  • 4:54:24 Geekdom reveals why he’s squashing all beefs (he’s working through some illnesses)
  • 4:56:08 Oppai extends an olive branch to Perfection for the future
  • 4:56:47 Inherited Beef
  • 5:59:22 You can’t reason with some people
  • 4:59:38 Perfection starts getting pissed off at the previous comment
  • 4:59:49 King calls Perfection a paedophile
  • 5:00:03 Perfection Leaves
Conclusion

5:00:03 – 5:00:45 Everyone (except J-cloud and MBA) gets pissed at King because they think they were close to resolving shit with Perfection

5:00:47 – 5:01:56 MBA gives the bottom line and defends King and J-Cloud
  • 5:01:58 Apparently Perfection is saying on his stream he wants to go to war with everyone involved in the chat
5:02:07 – 5:19:18 Guys try to explain the point to king and J-cloud. Everyone responds
  • 5:03:19 King again tries to defend his comment, Emosh explains why this would technically be a win for Perfection
  • 5:04:58 Perfection claims he was going to squash the beef on his stream
  • 5:04:16 Prince Vegeta says Perfection was just looking for a chance to leave and King gave it to him
  • 5:04:48 Emosh blurb (spam the stream if he gets out of line again)
  • 5:06:52 Geekdom: “Somebody needs to cut out the part where I said I was willing to move past all this” (oooo, naughty naughty Geekdom, thought you wanted to avoid drama)
  • 5:08:08 MBA: ”If you don’t like what he’s doing, Flag his shit or shut up”
  • 5:08:50/5:11:45 Oppai: “The offer for reconciliation still stands”
  • 5:10:08 Geekdom: “Bottom line, I addressed, debunked all his shit and tried to squash it”
  • 5:12:10 MBA: “Momma always told me…”
  • 5:13:30 Geekdom still doesn’t feel like he made any progress with Perfection
5:14:25 MBA encourages the bigger youtubers to destroy smaller tubers who cause problems
  • 5:17:37 – 5:19:00 Geekdom and Oppai cover their asses + MBA response to it
5:17:24 MBA: “Of course I’m giving you all blowjobs, that’s why yall here”

5:19:18 Perfection says he’s going to flag MBAs channel

5:20:45 – 5:21:30 Perfection rejoins with some BS that it’s now even more personal

5:21:48 – 6:01:10 Geekdom makes his offer again and he and Perfection come to an agreement
  • Some other shit as well dealing with disputes, like the videos and whether they’ll be deleted or privated and how they’re going to deal if people lie on Geekdom. I honestly can’t be arsed anymore this is all just repetitive
 
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