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Protein from animal sources is very important and satiating
Yeah I struggled with this past summer. I lost a significant amount of muscle by not eating enough protein. It sucked going from being able to easily lift a 3 cu. minifridge to struggling with a large microwave.
Very sad to not be stronk at work anymore :,<
 
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milk+coffee which was my go to beverage like five times a day.
Were you having sugar in your coffee?

I don't think it is even possible to eat 190g of protein a day on accident. It is 1.5 pounds of chicken breast.
It's not that hard. I typically have half a roast chicken for my lunch and then a 200/250gm steak for dinner, plus a couple of protein shakes.

Your theory about keto diet followers feeling better because they eat more protein has some merit - many people, especially women, do not eat enough red meat. Keto also acts as an Elimination Diet, so a lot of people feel better simply because they've stopped eating vast quantities of processed garbage.

Keep in mind that the training and dietary advice given on bodybuilding forums must be read with the subtext of "if you are using steroids". If you aren't juicing, about 50% is irrelevant or simply will not give results.
 
Instead of keto this time, I'm just eating more protein. I did some research and saw that people were generally recommending at least 100g of protein and as much as 190g a day. That seems a like a lot, and I don't think I was ever eating that. I don't think it is even possible to eat 190g of protein a day on accident. It is 1.5 pounds of chicken breast. Indeed, since deliberately trying to get as much protein as possible in a day, I don't think I've eaten 190g in one day yet.
Reading that reminded me of something, my boss at an old job got gastric bypass surgery, lost ~100 pounds, and kept it off by sticking to his doctor-recommended diet. He told me most if not all the details of that diet, it was very restrictive and one of the things that stood out to me was he had to go out of his way to get a ton of protein. Multiple protein shakes a day and at least one protein bar too, probably two or more, as well as meals that were generally high in protein relative to their small size. As an example, a common lunch for him at work, because he was restricted to 4 ounces of food per meal, was just a 4oz hamburger patty with fat-free cheese on top.

The protein intake was one of the most important parts of the diet that my boss would always stress to me whenever we talked about his diet, and I always wondered why so much protein as he wasn't lifting weights or anything, but reading your post I get it now.
 
, I like noodles and doughy shit and potatoes
Who doesn't? But those are the things that will make it hard for you to lose weight/keep it off. All carbs convert to glucose. All.
I know using a calorie counting method works to a point for some people, but it seems like they always end up putting the weight right back on after they stop calorie counting. So....maybe calorie counting is not the optimal long term strategy for a lot of people? Myself, I don't count calories at all. I simply have a very low carb diet.
 
As an example, a common lunch for him at work, because he was restricted to 4 ounces of food per meal, was just a 4oz hamburger patty with fat-free cheese on top.
First, that seems crazy, but second, that meal is also definitely keto friendly. What I'm wondering: would it be ok if he put a slightly smaller patty on a bun, or even just put ketchup on top? Because if not, it sounds like it's just keto with an emphasis on protein.
 
wow really????????????? really???? did i write a 10 paragraph post about protein just today? no I must be a fucking retard! thanks!
I'm actually reiterating the point for others who are reading this thread. Calm down.

Now, on the topic of protein: is a quality, low carb protein available where you are living? If you have difficulty eating a lot of protein, can you drink it instead?
 
I like noodles
Look into shirataki noodles. It's a zero calorie jelly noodle. It's made from konjac root (konnyaku) and is used in other dishes and shapes as well, but it's harder to find konjac cakes than the noodles.

You could order konjac powder, make your cakes and slice your own noodles or any other shape you like. It's commonly used in dishes like oden and unohana
 
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I’ve recently been falling down a rabbit hole about how our fruits/vegetables/grains are wayyy less nutritious (in terms of vitamins and minerals) than they used to be. The theory is that this lack of nutrients is why we are getting fatter: in order to get the same nutrients, we simply need to eat more food than we did in the past.

The nutrient depletion has been well documented since the 1980s. Here’s an article from 2006

https://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/health/article/fruits-vegetables-not-as-nutritious-as-50-years-1197106.php
Unfortunately, multivitamin tablets are kind of a scam. The vitamins compete with each other and some, like b12, need to be in your mouth for a while to get absorbed. I’ve been trying to eat more organ meats, grow some of my own veggies, and take some vitamins like magnesium.

Unsure what else to do :(
That's all you can do.
 
I am struggling with keeping to any dietary/lifestyle changes I try to make. Any suggestions on helping make them stick? I just want to be back down to a healthy weight again, but it’s so frustrating.
 
It's hard to give advice on zero information.

- what are you changing from & to?

- do you need to lose a lot or a little to be a healthy bmi?

- what does your daily food intake look like? Do you cook? General macro split? What have you been trying to change?

- what does your movement/exercise look like currently? Sedentary job? Gym membership? Walk anywhere? What have you tried changing?

- what have been the stumbling blocks when it comes to sticking to your changes? (tiredness, time, variety, binge eating, injury, budgeting?)
 
(This is just observations, I'm not seeking advice.)

Now, I am pretty sure the reason why I see a lot of people swear by keto and the carnivore diet is simply that they're inadvertently eating a lot more protein. They're doing these diets to enter ketosis, but they're just eating a high amount of protein to do so, which is why they feel better.
Not advice, just sharing information.
I also find increasing protein helps, the mechanism from what I've researched boils down to protein increasing glucagon secretion, which tells your body to get energy, as opposed to insulin telling your body to store it.
 
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I lost 7 pounds after one week of counting. Not a full week later I've lost another 5. The only thing I am doing differently is counting calories and endeavoring to eat more protein.

Now, I am pretty sure the reason why I see a lot of people swear by keto and the carnivore diet is simply that they're inadvertently eating a lot more protein. They're doing these diets to enter ketosis, but they're just eating a high amount of protein to do so, which is why they feel better.
That much weight loss that fast is almost certainly due to less water retention due to cutting carbs. Dropping carbs results in huge initial weight loss then slow normal weight loss like any other properly calorie consumption over time.

IMO reason why low/no carb diets are effective in general is because when you cut out carbs, youre eliminating 70-80% bullshit calories that do the most to make you overweight. Soda being the paradigm. Cookies? Donuts? Crackers? Chips? all carbs as well as very accessible.
 
It's hard to give advice on zero information.

- what are you changing from & to?

- do you need to lose a lot or a little to be a healthy bmi?

- what does your daily food intake look like? Do you cook? General macro split? What have you been trying to change?

- what does your movement/exercise look like currently? Sedentary job? Gym membership? Walk anywhere? What have you tried changing?

- what have been the stumbling blocks when it comes to sticking to your changes? (tiredness, time, variety, binge eating, injury, budgeting?)
- Typical shitty, over-processed American diet to a higher protein/fiber whilst keeping some carbs

- Highest weight was 252lbs—currently at roughly 220-225lbs; healthy weight range for my height is between 130-150lbs (5’7” Female)

- It varies—unfortunately I still intake more junk that I would like. Have been trying to cook more often. Not sure with macros, as I have never been good at tracking that kind of stuff. Trying to cut down on carbs—especially sugars, eating out less, trying to force myself to actually meal prep, etc.

- Could be a lot better. Sedentary job. I usually walk on a path during breaks but it has been too cold lately. At home I usually dance/pace to music in my room, which becomes decently high intensity—but I don’t do it as often as I used to. Bought a walking pad a bit ago and have used it a couple times. I have a gym membership, but never give myself time to go during the week.

- Tiredness, time, lack of motivation, difficulties with habit changing, binge eating
 
I was sadly too late to contribute to the poo conversation in the MATI thread recently but I didn’t see this mentioned: The digestive system has it’s own 'brain' called the enteric nervous system, it can work autonomously and it’s role is things like swallowing, digestion and nutrient handling. It is in close contact with your brain via a 2-way axis and can affect your moods.

Carbs raise serotonin levels and it is possible that eating a low carb diet may be detrimental to your ENS long-term, (unless you are epileptic) if this is you you may wish to do more research.. Provided they are complex/slow release, portion controlled and not a vehicle for calorie dense cheeses and cream sauces, you should be able to eat them and lose weight imo. I tried keto years ago and I hated it and felt that my performance while working out really suffered.

If you have found a diet that not only furthers your goals, but also makes you feel good then that is great, you should stick with it. It is possible that the blood-type diet theory has some basis to it where type O thrive on a ketogentic/ high meat diet and type A can more readily digest grains and legumes.

To help to optimize good health for everyone, aiming to eat at least 30 different plant materials a week is a good idea I have heard (this includes herbs and spices).
Look into shirataki noodles. It's a zero calorie jelly noodle. It's made from konjac root (konnyaku) and is used in other dishes and shapes as well, but it's harder to find konjac cakes than the noodles.
You can also get high protein noodles and pastas, usually made from chickpeas, beans or wheat and pea proteins.
 
IMO reason why low/no carb diets are effective in general is because when you cut out carbs, youre eliminating 70-80% bullshit calories that do the most to make you overweight. Soda being the paradigm. Cookies? Donuts? Crackers? Chips? all carbs as well as very accessible.
I agree it's partially the empty calorie reduction, yes, but from personal experience I would say it has more to do with the lowered insulin levels that result from the body not having to purge excess glucose. In terms of calories, I eat calorie dense, fatty meat (rib-eye, etc) and a lot of bacon and eggs fried in tallow, plus butter and cream, so my overall calorie intake is possibly higher than that of someone who has a high carb diet.
 
You can also get high protein noodles and pastas, usually made from chickpeas, beans or wheat and pea proteins.

Yes, I love making nut milks and you can pretty much make any legume into a "tofu". I love making noodles from peas. It's a common type of noodle used in many Chinese dishes. My favorite thing to do with chickpeas is still falafel (the Egyptian version uses red lentils). They are seriously tasty, they're notas tasty when you buy them from a restaurant or a supermarket.

Legumes, seeds and nuts are pretty dense in calories, so they aren't the best diet food when you are trying to cut weight. Which is why I suggested konnyaku noodles since they will help you feel full and not increase your calorie intake.

Also, really interesting info about keto. Thanks for sharing.
 
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I started to treat my weight loss like a video game difficulty slider
I start on Ultra Nightmare (24 hour fast) and if I find that's too difficult I lower it to Ultra Violence (16 hour fast)
The last time I was posting in this thread (summer 2024) I was dead set on Ultra Nightmare only and it burned me out fast.
 
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