Weight loss support thread

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in a phase right now where I'm drinking way too much caffeine (have you guys tried Alani? it's addictive) to get shit done and then bada bing bada boom I'm up till 4am, or pulling an all nighter. The lack of consistent sleep is really fucking me up don't be like me lmao. get your sleep guys. it's crazy I don't know if it's all in my head but I feel like the weight is just clinging on and never has the chance to be flushed out since I stay up. tummy hurts. Aiming to get to a normal schedule by the end of the week, should have a lot of this bullshit behind me then
 
in a phase right now where I'm drinking way too much caffeine (have you guys tried Alani? it's addictive) to get shit done and then bada bing bada boom I'm up till 4am, or pulling an all nighter. The lack of consistent sleep is really fucking me up don't be like me lmao. get your sleep guys. it's crazy I don't know if it's all in my head but I feel like the weight is just clinging on and never has the chance to be flushed out since I stay up. tummy hurts. Aiming to get to a normal schedule by the end of the week, should have a lot of this bullshit behind me then
Alani is good. And you are correct about the sleep schedule. Though my main problem is that my work schedule is wack (2am-12pm for three days, then closing shift on the last two). It feels like I can never catch up
 
in a phase right now where I'm drinking way too much caffeine (have you guys tried Alani? it's addictive) to get shit done and then bada bing bada boom I'm up till 4am, or pulling an all nighter. The lack of consistent sleep is really fucking me up don't be like me lmao. get your sleep guys. it's crazy I don't know if it's all in my head but I feel like the weight is just clinging on and never has the chance to be flushed out since I stay up. tummy hurts. Aiming to get to a normal schedule by the end of the week, should have a lot of this bullshit behind me then
Alani is too sweet, I tried the cherry slush one and I felt like I was drinking straight slushie concentrate.

Yes, get your sleep, waking up tired fucking sucks.
 
Anyone can be certified as a nutritionist, you'll want a dietitian, they went to actual college and have a degree. Good luck!
Dieticians are heavily influenced by the corporate food industry (as well as pharma).
They are involved in the curriculum and many are funded/employed by them.
 
I have done a radical lifestyle change from Near Years Day (New Year, New Me cliche).

Just celebrating that I am now 16lbs down and am comfortably in the healthy BMI catergory!

I genuinely feel so much better in myself, I have even signed up to a 10k run in 6 weeks time…. Been over 9 years since I last ran. I know its not a lot of time to prepare but recently the weight loss has really slowed and I literally cannot correct or reduce my eating anymore (I am short as fuck, I am already eating 1000-1200 kcals a day and refuse to go any lower).

So signing up to a run is my attempt to stop the weight loss from hitting a complete stall. I can walk 10k no issue so it’s not like I will fail this charity run but I would still rather try to actually run it.

One thing that I have noticed is how, yeah it’s taking me 2 weeks to lose a pound now rather than losing 2 a week but recently every pound I lose seems to make a visible difference to how I look so I guess it all evens out.

Good luck to all the other kiwis on their own health journeys. <3
 
I genuinely feel so much better in myself, I have even signed up to a 10k run in 6 weeks time…. Been over 9 years since I last ran. I know its not a lot of time to prepare but recently the weight loss has really slowed and I literally cannot correct or reduce my eating anymore (I am short as fuck, I am already eating 1000-1200 kcals a day and refuse to go any lower).

So signing up to a run is my attempt to stop the weight loss from hitting a complete stall. I can walk 10k no issue so it’s not like I will fail this charity run but I would still rather try to actually run it.
Best advice I can give is download the 10k app from Zenlabs. Similar to Couch 2 5K but it extends past it. Pick where you think you are capable of running now and stick to it three days a week and you should be gold.

I started from absolute scratch on the 5k program in October, 8 weeks later of it I was able to run 5ks and now I'm not far off being able to do a 10k, it really works.
 
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in a phase right now where I'm drinking way too much caffeine (have you guys tried Alani? it's addictive) to get shit done and then bada bing bada boom I'm up till 4am, or pulling an all nighter. The lack of consistent sleep is really fucking me up don't be like me lmao. get your sleep guys. it's crazy I don't know if it's all in my head but I feel like the weight is just clinging on and never has the chance to be flushed out since I stay up. tummy hurts. Aiming to get to a normal schedule by the end of the week, should have a lot of this bullshit behind me then
I take magnesium glycinate about 30 mins to an hour before bed if I'm feeling unusually awake or need to get to bed at a certain time. Has other health benefits too, as magnesium is an essential electrolyte. $10 bottle at Costco has lasted me months and I'm maybe half way through it. Never fails to make me tired, but stimulants too close to bed time can definitely extend that 30 mins to closer to 2 hrs sometimes.

Also in weight loss world I gained a few back after the holidays and stopping supplements/working out for a bit. Felt those clothes fitting tight again so decided to switch it up. I got recommended the rice diet which is very hardcore but it's also pretty nice. I'd describe it like a pseudo fast, as you can only have rice variants and fruit. No veggies, no seasoning (no salt is a big one), all carbs and fruit. It debloated me and I lost a few pounds quick. I unfortunately hit my period right after I started, and am going to pick it back up shortly. I think I'll try to do several days of just rice/fruit, and then maybe one meal or 2 meals of just rice/fruit, with a normal meal.

I really like it, not just for weight loss but also food addiction. It's very hard core and I wouldn't do it for an extended period. But it does compare heavily to a fast, and feels like a nice detox. There are other benefits like lowering blood pressure and being very easy on the kidneys. I'd recommend trying it for a few days minimum to anyone wanting a flavor reset and to break the grip food might have on you. It's called the kempner rice diet, and the book I read can be found online which is called the rice diet report

Edit: also the rice diet is very cheap and easy to do. No need to cook up fancy diet meals. No need to buy 50 different no sugar sauces or diet foods. Just eat rice and fruit. Very easy to understand and do. I felt like a monk :P
 
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Got a few pairs of pants, discovered they don't fit despite being the same size I currently have... and that the pairs I have are "comfort stretch." I.e., they have like 2-4 inches of elastic so you think you're wearing X when you're really wearing X+2 or X+4. So got a few new pairs coming.

I moved to a higher dose of Semaglutide a few weeks back and it's working again. Completely killed any urges to eat, and I've gotten a bit ill a few times after my single meal each day. It's also completely stopped my digestion system, I'm occasionally shitting a small rectangle of clay masonry every 4-6 days. Supposedly I need fiber to offset this.
 
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Thanks for the hopefuel, everyone. Weight loss has been slow since I don't have a ton to lose (already in healthy BMI range, but I wanted to reduce belly and face fat). Down ~5lbs from starting a few weeks ago, which is slower than I'd like, but I'm only wanting to lose maybe 15lbs at most so I guess its alright. So far there's been 3 things I've done that seem to have helped a lot; reduced my average calorie intake by probably ~500, started drinking apple cider vinegar 2-3x a day (I started taking it for digestive issues, but it also helps with weight loss and as well insulin and blood glucose stabilization), and increased my fiber intake to an average of 25g (low end 20g, high end 35g) per day.

The hardest part of making diet changes has been not snacking. I already do intermittent fasting for 12 to 16 hrs a day unintentionally, but between meals I had a tendency to eat a lot of carbs since I started to get hungry (read: mostly bored). I've stopped snacking and started eating my meals 3 to 4 hours apart, which I think helps a lot with keeping my calorie count in range.

In a funny way, it's helped with my hygiene a lot as well, since I now brush my teeth after every meal and don't have the excuse of "well, I might eat soon". I've been drinking more water and taking better care of my body since it helps distract me from the boredom and hunger, and I look and feel better than I have in... probably forever, I dont think I've ever felt this healthy and happy with myself. Now I just need to keep it up so I can finally hit my goal weight.
 
>Down 20.6 pounds in about 5 weeks.
>GG better habits (fasting, upped protein intake, regular lifting regimen, etc).
>Gym day.
>Shower and get dressed for work at gym after lift.
>Belt conspicuously missing from bag.
>Pants will fall completely off my ass without it.
>Home too far away to be convenient.
>Discretely shuffle into my office while clinging to said pants.
>Create belt from ethernet cable.


Nailed it.

I didn't set out to explicitly lose weight. It has been a nice side effect, though I figured you may appreciate that little tale all the same. Glad you're all making positive changes in your lives! Keep it up, frens!
 
For anyone really desperate you can do a liquid diet safely for a few months to lower your weight. I had another plateau last month and was getting close to 200 again (highest weight was 230 last year). I have done a liquid diet for the last two weeks and am now to 192. I'm juicing right now and taking vitamins. I'm going back on solid foods in a month but this is just a temporary boost. And it does work. Meal replacement bars can also be suitable. This isn't anything you should do for more than three months though.

It's just for people in a really bad situation with stubborn fat (not losing weight despite exercising and dieting). The weight-loss from the liquid diet will lower your insulin so it's easier to lose weight when you return to solid foods.
 
For anyone really desperate you can do a liquid diet safely for a few months to lower your weight. I had another plateau last month and was getting close to 200 again (highest weight was 230 last year). I have done a liquid diet for the last two weeks and am now to 192. I'm juicing right now and taking vitamins. I'm going back on solid foods in a month but this is just a temporary boost. And it does work. Meal replacement bars can also be suitable. This isn't anything you should do for more than three months though.

It's just for people in a really bad situation with stubborn fat (not losing weight despite exercising and dieting). The weight-loss from the liquid diet will lower your insulin so it's easier to lose weight when you return to solid foods.
So you're just cutting calories? You just gotta eat 500 calories less a day for 1 pound of weightloss a week. Calculate your TDEE (and also every so often when you see weightloss slow down). Learning to eat correctly in the first place instead of doing a short term diet will have you seeing more permanent results. Unless you like feeling like you're starving I guess.
 
For anyone really desperate you can do a liquid diet safely for a few months to lower your weight. I had another plateau last month and was getting close to 200 again (highest weight was 230 last year). I have done a liquid diet for the last two weeks and am now to 192. I'm juicing right now and taking vitamins. I'm going back on solid foods in a month but this is just a temporary boost. And it does work. Meal replacement bars can also be suitable. This isn't anything you should do for more than three months though.

It's just for people in a really bad situation with stubborn fat (not losing weight despite exercising and dieting). The weight-loss from the liquid diet will lower your insulin so it's easier to lose weight when you return to solid foods.
Liquids/juices are always going to digest faster than a solid meal with equivalent macronutrient composition. This means they lead to faster uptake of glucose, meaning higher glucose peaks, which require more insulin to control, meaning a greater degree of insulin resistance.

If you're at a deficit, especially a steep one, its not like you're going to induce diabetes by living off of meal replacement shakes. But if you're designing a diet with the specific goal of reducing insulin resistance, this is the exact opposite of what you want to do.

If you're trying to lose weight, its also generally a good idea to focus on foods that are very satiating, relative to the amount of calories. Again, this typically means slow digesting foods, the opposite of a liquid diet

Also, I keep seeing people talk about plateaus. I think there's this idea that you should diet indefinitely. Big surprise, if you try doing that for months on end, you start feeling like shit, you get lazy, and subconsciously reduce movement to conserve energy, because your body thinks you're in a famine. Just diet for 8-12 weeks, take 4-8 weeks at maintenance, and repeat as needed. For 90℅ of people, you'll end up leaner, with far less effort. Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder, its really difficult to think of a legitimate justification to diet for longer than 12 weeks
 
Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder, its really difficult to think of a legitimate justification to diet for longer than 12 weeks
An ongoing diet could mean just cutting out the harmful processed/sugar laden shit that got you obese in the first place.
 
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Also, I keep seeing people talk about plateaus. I think there's this idea that you should diet indefinitely. Big surprise, if you try doing that for months on end, you start feeling like shit, you get lazy, and subconsciously reduce movement to conserve energy, because your body thinks you're in a famine. Just diet for 8-12 weeks, take 4-8 weeks at maintenance, and repeat as needed. For 90℅ of people, you'll end up leaner, with far less effort. Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder, its really difficult to think of a legitimate justification to diet for longer than 12 weeks
This is a popular myth pushed by Health At Every Size advocates (who are mostly morbidly obese women). Starvation mode does not exist unless you are actually starving. Plateaus happen when your deficit becomes maintenence because you dropped weight, you need start eating even less to continue losing weight.

When losing weight, you need to make it a lifestyle change and not a diet, otherwise you will gain it back.
 
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This is a popular myth pushed by Health At Every Size advocates (who are mostly morbidly obese women). Starvation mode does not exist unless you are actually starving. Plateaus happen when your deficit becomes maintenence because you dropped weight, you need start eating even less to continue losing weight.

When losing weight, you need to make it a lifestyle change and not a diet, otherwise you will gain it back.
Can't tell if you're agreeing with me or shitting on me. "Starvation mode", where you magically start to defy the laws of thermodynamics isn't a thing. Subconscious reduction in NEAT (non exercise associated thermogenesis) in prolonged caloric deficit is a very real phenomena. You walk less, you stop tapping your foot along to music, you stand still, when you'd otherwise burn a few calories shifting your weight from foot to foot, rather than scanning the horizon, and swinging your head back and forth, you just stare off into the distance.

As you continue to hold caloric deficit for longer periods of time, the degree of psychological stress required to maintain the same deficit slowly increases. Cortisol levels creep up. Sleep quality starts to degrade. It begins to get more difficult to maintain muscle mass. And yes, as your weight decreases, so too do your maintenance calories. And the longer you're under this stress, the more likely it is that once your diet is over, you'll been binge eat, and undo a bunch of hard work. Especially if you're someone who already struggles with weight and controlling their diet.

Again, the laws of thermodynamics still apply. If you maintain the same deficit, you will lose weight at the same rate. Its just that really extended diets make it way more difficult than necessary. To use a metaphor, if you have an exam, yeah, I guess technically you could pull 4 all nighters in a row, and study for 80 hours straight... That doesn't mean its a good idea, especially if you already find the subject matter really complex, and difficult to understand.

Also, a fat loss diet is by definition unsustainable. If you can sustain the same deficit forever, guess what? Its maintenance, not a deficit. You should be able to sustain it without a huge amount of stress for around 8-12 weeks. The last 2-3 weeks might start getting difficult, but before that, it should generally feel pretty doable, assuming that you're generally focusing on satiating foods, aren't dropping fats way too low, and don't have your carbs in the weird middle ground, where you don't have enough to function, but have too many to be in ketosis.

Once your fat loss diet is up, bring your calories back up to maintenance. Some people find that if they slowly go up to maintenance, over a few weeks, then its easier to stick to maintenance, rather than binging. Keep in mind, even if you're at true maintenance, down to calorie, you'll still probably regain a little bit of weight, because you have more food/poop in your stomach, and more glycogen/water retention from bringing carbs back up. That doesn't necessarily mean you're getting fat. Even if you do regain some fat, let's say you diet for 12 weeks, lose 13℅ of your body mass, regain 1.5℅, then diet again, and lose another 8℅, on net, that's phenomenal progress.

After a month or two at maintenance, you'll have way lower stress, you'll be sleeping great, have tons of energy, be moving way more, and you'll be ready to go back on fat loss diet, and fucking kill it.

Periodization works. Regardless of what specific changes you're trying to make to your body (fat lose, muscle gain, strength gain, endurance, etc...) Following some kind of periodized approach is going to get you the most bang for your buck, the best results, with the least effort. You do something that is slightly more difficult than you can sustain (caloric deficit, weight training, interval training, etc...) for a roughly defined block of time, and make progress while accruing stress. Then, once that stress starts to make it more difficult to continue progressing, you back off, and let that fatigue and stress melt away, before stepping on the gas again, feeling refreshed an reinvigorated.

Maybe fatigue and stress build up faster than you think, maybe you were planning for 12 weeks, but at week 9, you'd be willing to blow your brains out, as long as you got to eat a cheeseburger first. That's fine, cut the diet early, focus on sticking to maintenance, and keeping that progress you made, rather than pushing too hard, and undoing your whole diet a month later.

All that said, if you had, like 1 day that you wanted to be as slim as possible for, and literally did not care whatsoever if you regained 30 lbs the very next day, yeah sure, you can go way harder, diet way longer, grit your teeth and just white knuckle it. But as long as your after long term changes in body composition and weight, then slightly unsustainable blocks of caloric deficit, punctuated by shorter blocks at maintenance is the best approach.

High protein is good because it helps maintain muscle, and burns a small amount of calories to digest. Don't bring fat super low, or most people will seriously fuck up their mood. Aside from that, all other diet methodologies (time restricted eating, food selection, etc...) Basically just boil down to whatever makes it easiest for you, personally to maintain that deficit. For some people, it might be small meals every 2-3 hours, others it might be one meal a day. Some people might do really well on a keto diet, others might find compliance much easier if they maintain moderate carbs. These choices might have impacts on specific aspects of health, but at least from a fat loss perspective, they're all basically the same, and any minor benefits one might have are small enough to be outweighed by the benefit of actually being able to comply with a deficit as well as possible, with the lowest possible amount of effort.

If I misunderstood, and you were agreeing with me, uhh, sorry dood, I'm autistic
 
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Can't hit reply, your post hit the word count limit. I mainly agree with you, I think there was some confusion with your last paragraph on your post I originally replied to. I thought you were saying starvation mode exists, so I was pointing out that the people who actually believe it are in the HAES movement.

The only part I really disagree with is only tracking calories for several weeks at a time, because until you completely relearn how to eat healthy/proper portions and change your mindset, taking a break I think would be detrimental to your progress. I have heard eating at maintenance for a little bit if you get tired of eating at a deficit though. And reiterating that this just my opinion, different things do work for different people.

When I initially lost weight, I never plateaued, every 20 lbs I lost, I would update in MFP and it would give me a new, lower calorie limit.
 
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