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Ozempic will not fix your relationship with food, you will probably need therapy and have you thought about doing Overeaters Anonymous? Use it as a short term fix while you get right with food.
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You are lucky though I guess you could say, at your weight once you start restricting calories that you intake you will see results immediately, because you need far more calories to maintain your size then what a person needs to consume to survive.
Seriously though water will help you. I know I keep going on about it. But you are a fleshy sack of mostly water. If you just take a sip three of water whenever you're hungry it will help. Sometimes when your body is telling you you're hungry you're actually dehydrated. So if you're getting hunger pains take a couple of mouthfuls of water and if you're still hungry after then you might be hungry.
Water will also help you flush out all the sugars and fats and everything that's in modern food. I'm guessing you're eating a lot of ultra processed foods right now, and not whole foods. Lightly processed is okay. But you really need to stay away from ultra processed foods. Ultra prostate food is stuff that you cannot recognize as food if you look at it. Think about it Cheetos are not food. Hot Fleming Cheetos are specifically designed to be the perfect snack they make you want more they melt in your mouth they have made it so that if you have one you want to have more.
My best advice see if you can get into a diabetic clinic whether you're pre-diabetic or actually diabetic if you're lucky and you aren't at all start eating as if you're a diabetic. Get one of their food plates look at the different things what you can eat what you can eat what has a natural sugars. If you eat like a diabetic like you have to like you're going to die if you don't change your life, you will drop weight.
I urge you not to go on Ozempic to start. Once you're on it you got to stay on it for life. That's an expense that you might not be ready for. But I also feel like it's a shortcut. The thing about weight loss aside from getting all those nasty chemicals they put in that make you want to eat food you have to want to do it and Ozempic is a shortcut. If you don't want to do it you're not going to do it. It's like quitting smoking or anything else you have to want it. But as was posted above you have to change your habits with food before you can really lose weight.
Harsh reality you're not going to lose weight fast. Actually you might at the start if you just limit your calories just because of your size, sorry. But it's not going to stay that way and it's going to take you a while to do it. You didn't just wake up one day and you were 400 lb. It may have felt like that to you but that took a long time to add on. You've got to change your habits your way of thinking with food before you'll really be able to lose weight. Otherwise you'll just be up and down and up and down and up and down.
TL;DR water is great take a drink whenever you want to eat something you might not be hungry. That'll help with food a lot. Get rid of the ultra process junk. A little processed is fine like a can of corn for example is processed food right it's taken off the corn and it's been put into water they've done some processing with it ultra processing it doesn't look like food it isn't food just stay away from it I know it's tldr but yeah.
If you feel you absolutely have to eat instead of grabbing a chocolate bar grab a carrot.
But
for the first little bit anyway if you just look at the portion size and try to stick to that say you get two big Macs when you go out only order one that sort of thing good luck! (stay off Ozempic though, really it's just a cheat sheet. At least don't start with it.)
Seriously though water will help you. I know I keep going on about it. But you are a fleshy sack of mostly water. If you just take a sip three of water whenever you're hungry it will help. Sometimes when your body is telling you you're hungry you're actually dehydrated. So if you're getting hunger pains take a couple of mouthfuls of water and if you're still hungry after then you might be hungry.
Water will also help you flush out all the sugars and fats and everything that's in modern food. I'm guessing you're eating a lot of ultra processed foods right now, and not whole foods. Lightly processed is okay. But you really need to stay away from ultra processed foods. Ultra prostate food is stuff that you cannot recognize as food if you look at it. Think about it Cheetos are not food. Hot Fleming Cheetos are specifically designed to be the perfect snack they make you want more they melt in your mouth they have made it so that if you have one you want to have more.
My best advice see if you can get into a diabetic clinic whether you're pre-diabetic or actually diabetic if you're lucky and you aren't at all start eating as if you're a diabetic. Get one of their food plates look at the different things what you can eat what you can eat what has a natural sugars. If you eat like a diabetic like you have to like you're going to die if you don't change your life, you will drop weight.
I urge you not to go on Ozempic to start. Once you're on it you got to stay on it for life. That's an expense that you might not be ready for. But I also feel like it's a shortcut. The thing about weight loss aside from getting all those nasty chemicals they put in that make you want to eat food you have to want to do it and Ozempic is a shortcut. If you don't want to do it you're not going to do it. It's like quitting smoking or anything else you have to want it. But as was posted above you have to change your habits with food before you can really lose weight.
Harsh reality you're not going to lose weight fast. Actually you might at the start if you just limit your calories just because of your size, sorry. But it's not going to stay that way and it's going to take you a while to do it. You didn't just wake up one day and you were 400 lb. It may have felt like that to you but that took a long time to add on. You've got to change your habits your way of thinking with food before you'll really be able to lose weight. Otherwise you'll just be up and down and up and down and up and down.
TL;DR water is great take a drink whenever you want to eat something you might not be hungry. That'll help with food a lot. Get rid of the ultra process junk. A little processed is fine like a can of corn for example is processed food right it's taken off the corn and it's been put into water they've done some processing with it ultra processing it doesn't look like food it isn't food just stay away from it I know it's tldr but yeah.
If you feel you absolutely have to eat instead of grabbing a chocolate bar grab a carrot.
But
for the first little bit anyway if you just look at the portion size and try to stick to that say you get two big Macs when you go out only order one that sort of thing good luck! (stay off Ozempic though, really it's just a cheat sheet. At least don't start with it.)
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Good/not as bad news on the doctor front of things, I'm not diabetic, just prediabetic. My A1C was a 5.9, 5.6 is normal, and 6.5 is diabetic. I am severely vitamin D deficient, so I am getting a supplement to get me up to normal on that. My cholesterol was a little high, so I'm cutting back on red meat to manage that and carbs for the weight side of things.
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Pregnancy confirmed, ultrasound scheduled. Woohoo
Super hungry, but I find I can only eat smaller portions, just more frequently. This is fine though. Changing tastes have me feeling quite picky too unfortunately. The bulk Costco meat sticks seem soooo unappetizing unfortunately. But sugary granola bars with chocolate and juice is wonderful. I was also suggested body armor drinks, due to their electrolytes, which I will be picking up.
Weight loss related: Re: Ozempic
My qualms with ozempic have only intensified. My mtg friend took it for quite a few months, dropped down to be quite skinny. He wasn't obese when he started, but slightly over weight he says. He looked fine to me, I didn't even notice a gut frankly.
Well, flash forward to now. He has cancer in several places. It doesn't look good. He stopped taking ozempic, kept losing weight and found cancer. Just a few weeks after stopping. Its for this reason, coincidence or not, I will now not ever take nor recommend ozempic, especially for those who are not severely obese.
Super hungry, but I find I can only eat smaller portions, just more frequently. This is fine though. Changing tastes have me feeling quite picky too unfortunately. The bulk Costco meat sticks seem soooo unappetizing unfortunately. But sugary granola bars with chocolate and juice is wonderful. I was also suggested body armor drinks, due to their electrolytes, which I will be picking up.
Weight loss related: Re: Ozempic
My qualms with ozempic have only intensified. My mtg friend took it for quite a few months, dropped down to be quite skinny. He wasn't obese when he started, but slightly over weight he says. He looked fine to me, I didn't even notice a gut frankly.
Well, flash forward to now. He has cancer in several places. It doesn't look good. He stopped taking ozempic, kept losing weight and found cancer. Just a few weeks after stopping. Its for this reason, coincidence or not, I will now not ever take nor recommend ozempic, especially for those who are not severely obese.
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It's worth it, if you have the money, to get one of those stick on glucose monitors. They last a couple of weeks and will display a minute by minute record of your blood sugar (technically it's a proxy measurement but close enough). I bought one with my own money to see my body's responses to things I ate and when I ate. And whilst much was something you'd guess at it also provided additional insights such as the effect of eating the same thing at different times of day (much higher levels in the morning). Plus it gives you a constant measurable goal of trying to keep it low which helps with portion sizes. They're too expensive to use routinely but good for trying to right the ship if you've gone off course a bit. Even just doing it one time offers a lot of insights.
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Unfortunately, here the only way to get them is through a prescription. My knowledge in anecdotal; had an older relative land in the hospital with a diagnosis for diabetes (not what they went into the hospital and they're fine now.) But I did need to cook for them for a month or so while they were in recovery. Boy did it makes a difference. I could feel it, and I just couldn't go back, you know?
I know I mentioned further up getting off the ultra-processed foods. Even if people switch to whole or processed foods they will feel so much better. BTW processed just means something done to it. A can of corn is processed corn as it's not on the ear. Ultra processed is like Pringles - they use potatoes but they are so mashed together and re-formed and have other things added so much so they can't call them potato chips any more.
Our bodies evolved to have a calorie deficient.. That's just the way things were. It was not easy to eat. Being fat used to be a sign of being rich because you could have so much food to get fat. But now we have chemicals and processes and they make "Food" for us to eat. I keep bringing up Flaming Hot Cheetos because I know they are engineered so that you want to eat more; they taste so good, they melt in your mouth! But the thing is we're not modifying something that already exists. We are creating "Food". We've been modifying food and out environment for millennia - Carrots were orange, blue, white, and purple before we mad them orange. Why did we make them orange? Demark. The royal family colors are orange, so they only grew the orange ones. You can still find the other ones, but everyone now thinks carrots = orange. You see a blue carrot and it's just weird. Bananas - ever notice how banana candies don't taste like the bananas we have now. Because the candy emulates a flavor of banana that no longer exists. They also had huge seeds in them, once upon a time. Corn is not what it once was either. My point is we've been changing food so it's more palatable to humans. But now we are creating "food" and we've never been able to before.
@Redoniblueoni Congrats! Not to freak you out more, because I know you have a lot to think about right now, but I think this is something you might want to see:
Might want to put a blender or food processor on your shower registry.
I actually found this video a little scary because I'm getting videos about how kids are acting all the time, the teachers are leaving, etc. But kids going into schools now don't even know their names and how to respond to their names because Covid parents are saying things like "It's time to sleep my sweet precious." and not Jane, it's bedtime. And now you add in the whole baby food thing.
Anyway, conspiracy theories belong in another thread. Remember no matter where you are on your weight/health journey stay hydrated you fleshy bags of mostly water!
Edit to add for my kiwi-sisters:
I know I mentioned further up getting off the ultra-processed foods. Even if people switch to whole or processed foods they will feel so much better. BTW processed just means something done to it. A can of corn is processed corn as it's not on the ear. Ultra processed is like Pringles - they use potatoes but they are so mashed together and re-formed and have other things added so much so they can't call them potato chips any more.
Our bodies evolved to have a calorie deficient.. That's just the way things were. It was not easy to eat. Being fat used to be a sign of being rich because you could have so much food to get fat. But now we have chemicals and processes and they make "Food" for us to eat. I keep bringing up Flaming Hot Cheetos because I know they are engineered so that you want to eat more; they taste so good, they melt in your mouth! But the thing is we're not modifying something that already exists. We are creating "Food". We've been modifying food and out environment for millennia - Carrots were orange, blue, white, and purple before we mad them orange. Why did we make them orange? Demark. The royal family colors are orange, so they only grew the orange ones. You can still find the other ones, but everyone now thinks carrots = orange. You see a blue carrot and it's just weird. Bananas - ever notice how banana candies don't taste like the bananas we have now. Because the candy emulates a flavor of banana that no longer exists. They also had huge seeds in them, once upon a time. Corn is not what it once was either. My point is we've been changing food so it's more palatable to humans. But now we are creating "food" and we've never been able to before.
@Redoniblueoni Congrats! Not to freak you out more, because I know you have a lot to think about right now, but I think this is something you might want to see:
I actually found this video a little scary because I'm getting videos about how kids are acting all the time, the teachers are leaving, etc. But kids going into schools now don't even know their names and how to respond to their names because Covid parents are saying things like "It's time to sleep my sweet precious." and not Jane, it's bedtime. And now you add in the whole baby food thing.
Anyway, conspiracy theories belong in another thread. Remember no matter where you are on your weight/health journey stay hydrated you fleshy bags of mostly water!
Edit to add for my kiwi-sisters:
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Down to 311 from 313. Admittedly ballooned during November & December. Part of that was a random depressive spell during that period, plus getting lazy with shopping.
Looking to get back into doing some meal prepping, but a lot of the recipes I'm looking at are ones that I'd do once and never again. I was wondering if any fellow kiwis had any recipes they use for meal prep?
Looking to get back into doing some meal prepping, but a lot of the recipes I'm looking at are ones that I'd do once and never again. I was wondering if any fellow kiwis had any recipes they use for meal prep?
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Simple butter pasta is good and not too calorie dense, I assume you already know the basics of boiling pasta, do 85 grams (315 cal) of pasta, 10 grams of butter (75 cal) and up to 15 grams (60 cal) of grated grana or parmigiano (the cheese type is important).
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Um, I'm sorry but is this just pasta with butter and cheese? I hate to contradict and of course portion size is the most critical thing. But that's a lot of carbs for the calories. Very easy to overeat with carb-heavy meals.
@Squanto Airi I could possibly write some ones down but what I'd suggest is learn to make a few really good salads. Once you've made them several times it goes from "what am I doing" to ten minutes to just make a pile. And then you can eat salad as a prelude to anything else. A good bulk of leafy and other veg before anything else goes a long way to helping with weight loss.
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I finally hit the final dosage increase of Wegovy and I feel like a dog’s dinner. Based on previous dosage levels I’m thinking that the worst case scenario is 4 more weeks of feeling yucky until I’m finally habituated but more likely just another one or two, I can’t wait, because once I am reliably feeling better (right now I’m ok about 4 random days per week), I can focus on establishing healthy eating habits and daily exercise. Right now I do 2 dance classes a week, but I want to do more.
It is still worth it. The food noise that has tormented me for as long as I can remember is GONE, which is a huge quality of life improvement. I’ve also lost the desire to smoke, drink, and spend excessively. I don’t weigh myself, but every time I leave the house, someone is telling me how much I’ve slimmed down, and that’s a nice feeling. But just having that obsession gone after decades of failing to beat this eating disorder is incredible,
It is still worth it. The food noise that has tormented me for as long as I can remember is GONE, which is a huge quality of life improvement. I’ve also lost the desire to smoke, drink, and spend excessively. I don’t weigh myself, but every time I leave the house, someone is telling me how much I’ve slimmed down, and that’s a nice feeling. But just having that obsession gone after decades of failing to beat this eating disorder is incredible,
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I am back to dieting again but this time I have a personal accountability tool... It's actually helping me overcome failure (because you will eat more than you'd like on some days).
Casually dropping 2 pounds a week and it's been 2.5 weeks now.
Trying to accelerate the process with fasting....
Casually dropping 2 pounds a week and it's been 2.5 weeks now.
Trying to accelerate the process with fasting....
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I would start walking around the neighborhood.
Eat lean meat (chicken, turkey, fish) helps too.
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Be careful with this because a lot of people have developed binge eating disorder trying to drop weight fast.
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Yeah that's what we've started to do.
As for the GLP-1, they gave me Zepbound. Currently on the lowest dose and it's already helped me out a ton. I've been on it for a week and my blood sugar is already much better, I don't feel tired nearly as much, I'm not napping as much as I used to, and I have constant energy throughout the day.
I've adjusted my diet so far, lowered carbs and have been eating more protein. Pretty much cut fast food out entirely. Gonna do my first weigh in since I got on the meds on Thursday.
I was 425 before I took the meds so we'll see where I'm at Thursday
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So I am currently at 390 after almost 3 weeks on it, I feel a lot better too. A lot more energy
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Yup, the change in life from ~425 to 390 was surprising. Keep going, it's even more noticeable at 375 and 360. (Depending on your height and other numbers, of course.)
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I'm also finding it a lot easier to actually stick to my low carb diet. I'm not craving really anything and I'm not beating myself up if i decided "you know what fuck it i can have 4 chicken strips that'll just be my max carbs for the day"
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Yup, that's what GLP1s do, they both make you feel full and they slow your stomach down. Like when I first started on mine I didn't know and didn't change my fast food habits -- and it turns out a bunch of extremely dairy filled burritos or what have you make you pretty sick if they sit in your stomach too long.
One thing I'm interested is if you notice any change in your vision. I had to switch to bifocals after a year of Wegovy, but my eye doctor seemed to think that was less GLP1 and more "you're getting old now."
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I have glasses already but I haven't really gotten my eyes checked in two years.