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I'm starting to see a lot of videos and hearing a lot of chatter about sardine fasting. Is this just some fad or would it be worth doing it for 3-7 days?
 
I'm starting to see a lot of videos and hearing a lot of chatter about sardine fasting. Is this just some fad or would it be worth doing it for 3-7 days?
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I mean as a fasting diet, does it hold water or are people just blowing smoke?
I actually tried carnivore for about 10 days and I lost 10 pounds, so I know that one is legit. I just really don't want to eat nothing but sardines for a week and a half unless I know I'm going to see some weight loss.
Also, I am back into clothes that I gave up on during covid because my drinking made my waist and belly too big for them. I'm getting back to pre covid weight and I'm excited!
 
I'm starting to see a lot of videos and hearing a lot of chatter about sardine fasting. Is this just some fad or would it be worth doing it for 3-7 days?
3 wouldn't hurt. It's basically an extreme take on a keto diet. 7 might be rough.

Basically just 3 days from your first bite of Sardines, only cans of Sardines in water or olive oil. Carb free sauces (hot sauce) are fine, as is black coffee. Probably something like Coke Zero would probably be acceptable too.

Eat when you're hungry as much as you want, but only Sardines. Quick search suggests most people on a 3 day do 2 to 6 cans a day (so 5-20 cans stockpiled) but apparently if you're doing more (7 days) it goes up to closer to 8-10 a day.

Hearing a combination of things like it not being as filling, but also being really filling (cause it's basically just fish + brine), but also really boring, but the boringness causes people not to overeat, etc etc.
 
I haven't posted in here before but I was hoping for some advice.

I've gone from 299.8 lbs to 265 lbs over the last 10 months, give or take. I've kind of plateaued at 265 for a few months, however.

Last month I started going to the gym, and using the treadmill for about 30 minutes or so, every day.

I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for diet, what to cook (preferably all at once, during meal prep) to help me lose more weight? Something low calorie but filling. I'd like to lose an additional 20 pounds at minimum, although my goal is to get to 200.
 
I haven't posted in here before but I was hoping for some advice.

I've gone from 299.8 lbs to 265 lbs over the last 10 months, give or take. I've kind of plateaued at 265 for a few months, however.

Last month I started going to the gym, and using the treadmill for about 30 minutes or so, every day.

I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for diet, what to cook (preferably all at once, during meal prep) to help me lose more weight? Something low calorie but filling. I'd like to lose an additional 20 pounds at minimum, although my goal is to get to 200.
Dumb question, but have you adjusted your total calories for the day when dropping from 299-265?
 
I'm starting to see a lot of videos and hearing a lot of chatter about sardine fasting. Is this just some fad or would it be worth doing it for 3-7 days?
It's just a high protein, no carb diet. I'd do it myself if I could eat sardines.

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This showed up in my push notifications literally while I was typing the above sentence.
 
I've been losing slowly still - which is fine by me. It took a while to get heavier. But I also realize what's working for me won't work for everyone because it's just the way my life has gone.

First off obviously is the water. I'm drinking a lot more than I used to. But once I found out about taking a few sips when I'm hungry I don't really eat "just because" or because I think I'm hungry.

On top of that I've been going a little back in time, I guess you could say. I'm not out living on a farm or anything, we do have a garden and just going out every day and watering really helped me last year - not so much the weight, but just being outside and not tied to the internet. I sleep old people's hours - in bed by 8pm, up by 4 am. And because we're just getting out of winter and everything has been darker, I only eat during daylight. (And not literally either if it's raining that day I still eat. But the sun has to be up.) I'm also just avoiding the ultra processed foods we have now. The most processed things I eat are a light rye bread because it's the best for you but I live in a place where it an be baked locally and not mass-produced. I guess molasses as well. But if it's got so many dyes and chemicals in it that if you read them out loud you might summon some sort of demonic entity if you mis-pronounce one.

It's actually pretty easy when you see a video about what's in McDonalds fries, or how they specially made flaming hot Cheetos to be addictive. They are perfect for a reason.

Also my grandfather lived until he was 85, and my grandmother 83 so I figure they must be on to something.

That and just staying reasonably active.
 
I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for diet, what to cook (preferably all at once, during meal prep) to help me lose more weight?
I’ve been meal prepping for the better part of the last 5 months: keep it simple.

Simple source of protein, simple source of carbs and little bit of greens has been my rule of thumb. Generally this equates to some form of lean ground beef, rice and spinach. You can really do whatever for your protein source and your carb source. And sometimes I don’t do any greens and opt for a high fiber option. This week I did lean ground beef, rice, corn and fat free cheddar cheese. For macros, I aim for about 1:1 protein to carbs favoring protein over carbs and about as little fat as possible. I’ve found that anywhere from 490-650 calories is a good portion size for lunch. This week’s macros were 53 grams of protein, 51 grams of carbs and 16 grams of fat in 570 calories.

As your dieting, you’ll find a macro split you like. I believe prioritizing protein intake over everything is a good way to start. If you’re lifting frequently, its good to hit the Mentzer split which is pretty standard about 65/30/5 Carbs/Protein/Fat.

For strictly fat loss I’ve been trying my best to stick to 45/50/5 Carbs/Protein/Fat. You can manipulate your carb intake to feel lighter on any given day, but I’ve found my carb intake is pretty directly tied to how I perform in the gym. This doesn’t apply to cardio though. Fasted cardio is always a good idea for fat loss.

EDIT: forgot to add to this: the “best foods” for dieting and fat loss are going to be whatever you enjoy eating and whatever you can make a habit of eating. So for example, if you get bent out of shape about eating spinach and you start having thoughts like “fuck man I really want to lose this weight but I just hate eating spinach” then just don’t eat spinach. Same thing with cottage cheese or Greek yogurt or whatever else you hear are good options for fat loss. If you don’t like doing it, over a long enough period of time, you’ll stop doing it. With certain things, you will have to learn to love it, but dieting is hard enough as is. If eating ground beef and rice with no veggies is something you can stomach and like doing, just spam that until you get tired of it. The only real wrong way to go about this is going over on your allotted calories in my opinion.
 
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The pharmacy:
*Doesn't automatically refill my zepbound prescription on Friday or Saturday*
*Closed on Sunday*
*Has to ORDER my zepbound today because they don't keep it in stock there*
*It won't be ready until at least tomorrow*
They know for a fact that I'm going to pick it up there and that I have two refills. They know that my injection day is Sunday morning. Why does everything with the pharmacy have to be a fucking fiasco? It's always a complicated project.
The amount of money my insurance pays for 4 little needles every month, you'd think they'd bring it to my house on a golden platter.
 
200~210 pounds lately, fat as fuck. Lowest I've been as an adult was about 180 after a year of keto, but it was expensive and miserable (even if it did take years to put that weight back on). I have to lose some of this, but I'm kind of at an impasse since I don't want to do a miserable crash diet like that again and my other half and I like to hit the bakeries. I'm not a soda drinker or serial snacker (chips and such), so I seem to just hover beteeen 200 and 210 when I'm not doing anything in particular.

Is it still possible to start dropping, even slowly, while having a weekend treat? I do love things like canned, smoked fish, veggies like spinnach, seared lean chicken etc etc but have no clue what to actually do. My only frame of reference for 'healthy' eating is keto, but it was so brutally plain and minimal that I wanted to just die.

Skinny kiwis, what's a fat fuck like me to do?
 
The only way I found that works, and works reliably, for me is to simply count all of the calories I eat. Then just be a few (2-3 for me) hundred calories on average (so, I don't think this procludes the occasional treat, you just have to stay below maintenance overall) below what you need to keep the same weight. Just find a level where you're loosing weight but still have energy (being hungry is to be expected, but it shouldn't be crippling). I also went to the gym 3x a week, but that was more for fun, I don't think it burns too many calories.

Unfortunately, counting all the calories takes a lot of time, so I stopped when I went to uni, and without that control I've slowly gained it back again. Having a sedentary job now, together with going to a part-time school, certainly doesn't help either. I should just force myself to find the time and start with the caloric counting again...
 
200~210 pounds lately, fat as fuck. Lowest I've been as an adult was about 180 after a year of keto, but it was expensive and miserable (even if it did take years to put that weight back on). I have to lose some of this, but I'm kind of at an impasse since I don't want to do a miserable crash diet like that again and my other half and I like to hit the bakeries. I'm not a soda drinker or serial snacker (chips and such), so I seem to just hover beteeen 200 and 210 when I'm not doing anything in particular.

Is it still possible to start dropping, even slowly, while having a weekend treat? I do love things like canned, smoked fish, veggies like spinnach, seared lean chicken etc etc but have no clue what to actually do. My only frame of reference for 'healthy' eating is keto, but it was so brutally plain and minimal that I wanted to just die.

Skinny kiwis, what's a fat fuck like me to do?
Whatever you do, do not stick to abrupt and hardcore diets. You WILL rebound and stuff your face with fat stuff. Make it gradual, calculate and write down your metabolic intake, there's calculators online for that. Than build your diet around of it, with 300 or so calorie deficit. Like most things, your body needs time to adapt to change

Then, make it a habit to read the nutritional facts of everything you're gonna consume. There's A LOT of stealthy culprits in mundane diets, the kind of food you don't know that are caloric as fuck. You can allow yourself a treat once a week so you don't get wild cravings

Apps like myfitnesspal and similar can really help you. Though i think the old fashioned excel sheet works better
 
Whatever you do, do not stick to abrupt and hardcore diets. You WILL rebound and stuff your face with fat stuff. Make it gradual, calculate and write down your metabolic intake, there's calculators online for that. Than build your diet around of it, with 300 or so calorie deficit. Like most things, your body needs time to adapt to change

Then, make it a habit to read the nutritional facts of everything you're gonna consume. There's A LOT of stealthy culprits in mundane diets, the kind of food you don't know that are caloric as fuck. You can allow yourself a treat once a week so you don't get wild cravings

Apps like myfitnesspal and similar can really help you. Though i think the old fashioned excel sheet works better
Funnily enough those are things that did stick with me after a year of keto, though I suppose I don't really do the tracking anymore so maybe I ought to start again like you're saying.
 
Is it still possible to start dropping, even slowly, while having a weekend treat?
Yes. In fact (and I don’t like to view things as easy or hard) it is quite easy. Just start counting your calories. Just based off the limited information you gave, you could probably eat around 2300-2400 calories a day and be in a deficit, but that’s for you to figure out on your own. If you’re trying to lose weight it’s obviously beneficial to stay in a deficit 7/7 days of the week, but if you go 6/7 that’s still good and better than what you were doing before. You can also pretty easily plan around having a treat. So if you know you’re hitting the bakery later, maybe just a protein shake for breakfast, lighter lunch, etc.. It’s most certainly doable.
 
Yes. In fact (and I don’t like to view things as easy or hard) it is quite easy. Just start counting your calories. Just based off the limited information you gave, you could probably eat around 2300-2400 calories a day and be in a deficit, but that’s for you to figure out on your own. If you’re trying to lose weight it’s obviously beneficial to stay in a deficit 7/7 days of the week, but if you go 6/7 that’s still good and better than what you were doing before. You can also pretty easily plan around having a treat. So if you know you’re hitting the bakery later, maybe just a protein shake for breakfast, lighter lunch, etc.. It’s most certainly doable.
I'll give it a go then, thanks. Today's work meal is a good-sized chicken breast fillet by Ms. Dick, seasoned up and seared real good (spoiling myself with a spoonful of gravy I did from the drippings), side of plain rice, and a tin of sardines.

Something else I'm wondering is how you all fill in your meals with that good stuff that's easily missed. Vitamins and stuff like that. It's easy enough to count calories and check carbs, but the last time I dieted I think I did that at the expense of a bunch of shit I needed and wasn't getting.
 
When I try to fit into a caloric limit, I just naturally end up eating more fruit and vegetables, as they are less calorically dense than a lot of other food, and I do want to feel full, just on less calories. What can be a problem is fat though, be careful not to just cut it out in order to keep the calories low, healthy fats are really important. Some of the apps can keep track of the micro-nutrients as well, but just eating a diverse diet works well enough in my experience.
 
I'm starting to see a lot of videos and hearing a lot of chatter about sardine fasting. Is this just some fad or would it be worth doing it for 3-7 days?
It's a fad, just like the Cabbage Soup Diet, the Lettuce and Water Diet, the Keto Diet, the South Beach Diet, the Atkins Diet, he Paleo Diet, and Bulletproof Coffee.

Can you lose weight on it? Yes, if you stick to it. Is it sustainable over the long term? Absolutely not.

I'm a Personal Trainer and Fitness Instructor. I'm 65 years old and and I wear the same size jeans as I did in high school (size 34 waist).

I'm going to tell you something that you probably do not want to hear (few people do). Unless you change your lifestyle, you are not going to lose weight or get into shape. You can temporarily drop 10-15 lbs. on some fad diet (I have seen people do it), but unless you change your lifestyle, you will gain it all back and maybe a few pounds more.

You need to eat a balanced diet that includes Protein, Carbohydrates, and Fats. Most of your diet needs to be whole foods (meat, fish, poultry, eggs, fruits, vegetables, whole grains, whole milk, etc.) and very little or no processed foods.

You need to burn more calories than you consume in a day.

You need to exercise vigorously 3-5 times per week. This doesn't mean you need to go to the gym and kill yourself for 3 hours a day, or run 5 miles a day or anything like that, it means you need to move enough that it feels like an effort for 20-30 minutes.

I know it sounds incredibly boring, but it works. There is no ONE SECRET TRICK that is going to help you magically lose 20-30 pounds in a week. It take time and effort, but it's worth it if you really want to.
 
200~210 pounds lately, fat as fuck. Lowest I've been as an adult was about 180 after a year of keto, but it was expensive and miserable (even if it did take years to put that weight back on). I have to lose some of this, but I'm kind of at an impasse since I don't want to do a miserable crash diet like that again and my other half and I like to hit the bakeries. I'm not a soda drinker or serial snacker (chips and such), so I seem to just hover beteeen 200 and 210 when I'm not doing anything in particular.

Is it still possible to start dropping, even slowly, while having a weekend treat? I do love things like canned, smoked fish, veggies like spinnach, seared lean chicken etc etc but have no clue what to actually do. My only frame of reference for 'healthy' eating is keto, but it was so brutally plain and minimal that I wanted to just die.

Skinny kiwis, what's a fat fuck like me to do?
I went from 280 to 180 in a year. I got back up to 220 but I was slowbulking for two successive strength periods with just maintenance in between. I’m cutting now. I too can tell you exactly how to do a reasonable weight loss plan.

Buy a food scale. Weigh your portions. Eat 1800-2000 Calories a day. Track it with an app. Learn about the nutrition of what you eat. Don’t eat out much. Once a month or so. Once a week, maybe. Slower, once a week. But that’s it.

For micros, get a multivitamin. It will underdose magnesium and calcium and zinc. Get a combined supplement for those. Get psyllium husk powder for fiber. Mix it up with yogurt and frozen berries it’s delicious.

Use Cronometer or something like it to track your food. Weigh yourself daily. Get over scale anxiety. Weigh everything you eat every meal. Weigh obsessively. Weigh milk. Weigh your oils. Weigh dressing and marinade. Put the cold pan on and tare the scale then add oil. Weigh the meats, cooked or uncooked, pick one, do it that way all the time. Weigh starchy vegetables like potatoes and carrots and corn. Weigh your portions and log them. Log it all. Control what you eat. You do not have to be perfect in weighing but you must weigh stuff consistently to control it.

What’s measured can be managed. Learn about the nutrition of what you eat. Cheat once a week in a small way-a small dessert or a treat or a drink. Just one.

-500 Calories a day is super achievable. Use some bmr calculator like sailrabbit’s to get one, and go from there. But that deficit equals a pound a week. 2 kilograms a month. Aim for 35-35-30 protein-carbs-fat proportions.

When people talk about healthy fats, it ultimately means just get fat from your food, a small amount of cooking oil, and take like 5g of fish oil a day. No need to optimize for the most expensive and trendy cooking oil. Olive oil is for sauteeing veggies, dressing a salad, canola oil works fine for most high heat cooking like searing or stir frying. The fear of the sneed oils is overblown, the talk of what is and isn’t healthy fat is overblown. Don’t eat a lot of deep fried food. Don’t drown food in oil. Take some fish oil. Unless you’ve got problems with your gallbladder, you’re good to eat like 100g of fat a day as a man and can easily come in under most given calorie targets.

20 minutes at a moderate intensity in the exercise bike is 200 calories give or take. Low impact, can listen to music or zone out on the farms. Don’t log your exercise as calories burned. It’s not earning food you get to eat it’s earning extra weight you get to lose each week.

Your diet you mentioned sounds fine in composition. Just log stuff so you know how much you’re eating.
 
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