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DickMain said:
Something else I'm wondering is how you all fill in your meals with that good stuff that's easily missed. Vitamins and stuff like that. It's easy enough to count calories and check carbs, but the last time I dieted I think I did that at the expense of a bunch of shit I needed and wasn't getting.
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That’s a good question. I feel if you’re getting all your food from whole foods (unprocessed or minimally processed beef, chicken, fish, bread, fruits, vegetables, etc.) that should cover most of the micronutrients your body needs. Sometimes I imagine how people lived thousands of years ago; if they were following a similar diet (in fact, whole foods were all they had access to) and were able to make it, I feel like we should be able to make it too off of that.

That being said, I have a pretty solid vitamin/supplement regime I follow daily. It encompasses a lot (and if anyone is curious I can post the full breakdown) but the essentials: one multivitamin, D3, Zinc, Vitamin C, Apple Cider Vinegar and Vitamin E. I supplement this with a cocktail in the morning consisting of lemon juice, beet juice, pineapple juice and creatine. I feel like Superman after downing that.

EDIT: I also can understand if all this information can seem overwhelming and difficult to navigate as there will be slight discrepancies over what has worked for each of us individually. @Jean ValJean above I believe has most succinctly worded how to lose weight and get fit.
 
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I am singling out this thread because you weight loss niggas are more likely to know the answer.

Could whatever amount of crystallised cellulose they put into a tiny capsule to hold whatever active thing is in there, affect my gut?
Because I am having two completely unrelated pills give me completely numb gut, I barely feel hunger pangs and it hurts if I eat ANYTHING.
And that cellulose, which Jewgle says is used to stuff gut and achieve weight loss, is the only constant between them (first was pain med, second an iron supplement).
 
UnsufficentBoobage said:
I am singling out this thread because you weight loss niggas are more likely to know the answer.

Could whatever amount of crystallised cellulose they put into a tiny capsule to hold whatever active thing is in there, affect my gut?
Because I am having two completely unrelated pills give me completely numb gut, I barely feel hunger pangs and it hurts if I eat ANYTHING.
And that cellulose, which Jewgle says is used to stuff gut and achieve weight loss, is the only constant between them (first was pain med, second an iron supplement).
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It’s possible. Unlikely , but possible. The human body is weird in an infinite number of ways.

It sounds like you’re having Gastroparesis. I’m not a doctor, but I would suggest basic process of elimination. Stop taking both pills, wait a few days. If not having pain, take one pill for a few days. No pain, take the other.

If at step one you’re still having pain, see a doctor. A GI doctor if possible.

You can also try a laxative, get things moving and see if that helps. Specifically while you’re not taking either pills, at least. I suggest something like MiraLAX (that’s the brand name here in the US) that doesn’t rely on contractions of the stomach and bowels.

Good luck fren!

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I’ve officially lost 25 pounds since December. Go me!
 
Which is better cutting between bacon and bread?
Bacon is usually considered a very unhealthy food, but bread has a lot of calories for loaf.
Keto shit kinda confuses me on this matter now.
 
Wujime said:
Which is better cutting between bacon and bread?
Bacon is usually considered a very unhealthy food, but bread has a lot of calories for loaf.
Keto shit kinda confuses me on this matter now.
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Bacon is considered bad because it's heavily processed and can increase your cholesterol. It's not going to make you super fat, though, because in the end, it's meat. Don't eat it all the time if you're worried, but in the end, bacon isn't going to kill you, and it's one of the better things to eat if you're on a Keto diet.

Bread is generally bad because it has a bunch of carbs in it, which is what Keto diets tell you to avoid. If you aren't avoiding carbs, you want to make sure to eat nutrient-dense/high fiber carbs, which would be in whole grain breads, legumes, fruits and veggies. Avoid simple/refined carbs.

TLDR: it depends entirely on the quantity, how often, and for the bread, what kind of bread you're eating.
 
GemstoneEddie88 said:
The bespoke option is cutting neither and enjoying them in smaller quantities.
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I did cut breads out myself, personally, as my body likes to do weird blood sugar spikes when eating bread. When out at a restaurant to avoid the weird fainty feeling I eat veggies first, then meat. Then carbs.

A few different sources say eating greens first lets your glucose rise slowly, even if you end up eating carbs
 
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I read some bs article from the daily fail about the timing of glp-1 drugs. However I have noticed in the past few weeks that there is a rhythm to my appetite that seems to correspond to the timing of my tirzepatide shots, I inject on Wednesdays and have found that by Friday I have about zero appetite for anything, albeit with no feelings of nausea or food aversion like I had early in the course of using tirzepatide. By Mondays I have what I would consider a normal appetite for food but Tuesdays-Wednesdays I feel the brakes release. My rational brain is inhibiting wild, eat anything impulses though thank Christ.

I'm holding steady at 121-123 lbs, on 7.5 mg compounded tirzepatide. I have had too many Kirkland Special ice creams bars with granny but have also declined many as well. I have still a fat gut so I look like a pea pod with one pea. It's early days to burn off a flabby belly isn't it guys?

Getting multi 60 min cardio sesh per week but lagging on weight training. Life gets busy.
 
Lying in bed recovering from a mastoidectomy and staring at the weight listed on my post-op paperwork. Sometimes it feels like the second you take your mind off of weight loss when you have PCOS it really sneaks up on you. And of course when I'm saying "okay I really want to do something about this" I'm stuck in bed for at least a week or two.
 
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I read some bs article from the daily fail about the timing of glp-1 drugs. However I have noticed in the past few weeks that there is a rhythm to my appetite that seems to correspond to the timing of my tirzepatide shots, I inject on Wednesdays and have found that by Friday I have about zero appetite for anything, albeit with no feelings of nausea or food aversion like I had early in the course of using tirzepatide. By Mondays I have what I would consider a normal appetite for food but Tuesdays-Wednesdays I feel the brakes release. My rational brain is inhibiting wild, eat anything impulses though thank Christ.

I'm holding steady at 121-123 lbs, on 7.5 mg compounded tirzepatide. I have had too many Kirkland Special ice creams bars with granny but have also declined many as well. I have still a fat gut so I look like a pea pod with one pea. It's early days to burn off a flabby belly isn't it guys?

Getting multi 60 min cardio sesh per week but lagging on weight training. Life gets busy.
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I'm going to ask to be raised because I'm currently on 5mg of Zepbound. I inject on Sunday morning and I'm good to go until about Thursday and by then I'm eating like a fucking FIEND.
Although I am eating less overall, so that's good.
 
GemstoneEddie88 said:
I would imagine you can pin just 2.5mg twice weekly. This is NOT medical advice but might be worth a shot.
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I looked it up and you can't take more than one injection per week, however this is apparently normal when you're on a lower dose. My doctor is slowly moving me up to either 7.5 or 10mg so I imagine when I get to that point it will work better.
 
Alright guys this is the weight loss support thread so I ask your support into not fucking things up again in re-planning my weight loss.
First of all the basics: I am doing c25k (currently on week 3) and only going to the next week slowly as I have some ankle problems and have to be careful about how much stress they can handle, so I try to increase distance only when I lost enough weight I feel they won't get overly stressed the 4 days I don't run I take walks, light enough to not feel tired as to be able to handle the run days. I am currently 86 kgs. and wanted to go down to 70 by April of next year (or hopefully a little sooner. That seems a conservative enough goal to follow which is about 0,35 kgs a week. I think that's taking it slow enough is it?
Then, for calorie intake, I can't control my own dinner but I reckon it goes from a minimum of 400 calories up to 1000 some days. Probably an avaerage closer to 600. Not including the dinner, how much do you reckon I should eat on breakfast, lunch etc.? You think 1500 cals are enough? Somedays 1000 seem plenty but sometimes I feel hungry as fuck even after 1500.
Which brings me to the next topic: macros. I mostly ignored them but I guess they are what determine hunger so here we are. The problem is I can't really say proteins make me necessarily fuller and carbs give me hunger, but there seems to be some combinations more effective. For example, today I tried Salmon for lunch, which I almost never did, and it did nothing for me: I felt hungry af. Eating Milk and biscuits for the same theoretical calorie amount does more to suppress my hunger, same for pasta. But chicken also fills me more. Eggs are inconsistent, it seems if I eat like 2 eggs with 3 slices of bacon and a bread loaf then it is plenty, but if I half the amount then it's almost like I ate nothing at all, and feel hungry the whole day. So I guess there has to be a macro balance there to be fulfilled at very specific times, which should I go for? 50 grams of protein enough? How low should I go with carbs?

Yeah some questions are very stupid and I should know the answer or google them already, but please give me feedback on all this, as today on diets everything and the opposite of everything is said so I just want to know anecdotal opinons, unironically more valid than the crash diet-pills/FDA scams online
 
Wujime said:
but please give me feedback on all this
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Just my opinion and what I experienced but, usually at the start of a diet you will always feel hungry, but its moreso like a withdrawal from instinctive overeating and being bored, so I try and procrastinate my urge to snack when hungry after a meal, like, "ill have some snacks just not right now" which works well for me.
My ultimate tip is to ditch all carbs and go on a fat and protein diet, but its hard at first. You wont really need to count calories and macros if you eat nutrient rich foods like meat and organs.
 
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Overall @Wujime I think your initial approach and leanings are solid. You have a definitive goal in mind (along with a timetable) and you know what habits and lifestyle choices are going to be conducive to reaching those goals in time. I have a few anecdotes to share concerning things that have helped me to stay on track with losing weight and improving my overall health.

Wujime said:
I am doing c25k
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I only did some surface level research on this, but it seems like a good program. There are better, less intensive options for strictly fat burning cardio, but your goals might not be entirely fat loss so I can’t recommend any changes. Truly, a calorie deficit is all you need to strictly lose weight, any programs like this are just cherries on top.

Wujime said:
I am currently 86 kgs. and wanted to go down to 70 by April of next year (or hopefully a little sooner. That seems a conservative enough goal to follow which is about 0,35 kgs a week. I think that's taking it slow enough is it?
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I don’t like to think about things in terms of being easy or hard, but this is a very achievable goal. I recommend being in a calorie deficit for anywhere from 8 to 12 weeks at a time, then eating in a caloric maintenance or slight surplus for a minimum of 2 weeks before dieting again. This has been most beneficial for me as I feel your body will adjust to being in a constant deficit over too long of a period. I recommend checking out a TDEE calculator online to get definitive numbers, but aiming for about a pound a week or just under for those dieting phases with small breaks every 8 to 12 weeks will get you to your goal weight as you have outlined.


Wujime said:
Not including the dinner, how much do you reckon I should eat on breakfast, lunch etc.?
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Planning to consume most of your calories around when you’re most active is what has worked best for me. It is important to note though I am approaching this from more of a weightlifting/bodybuilding perspective. On days where I lift, I try to get in 50 grams of both carbs and protein before my lift, and then most of my remaining protein post lift. On days where I only do cardio, I try to do my cardio fasted and then have only one bigger meal after.

Wujime said:
macros
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I’m slightly pressed for time so I can’t go into my full spill, but experiment with a variety of splits and see what works best for you. For me, roughly 50/50 carbs to protein (slightly favoring protein) with as little fat as possible has been best. The keto people swear by high protein low carbs, and that seems to work for them. More old school approaches favor a balanced diet. It’s hard to say that any one approach is best as everyone has had success with varied approaches. One thing remains consistent though: calories are king.
 
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