Wendigoon Thread

[ReasonablyRetarded]

I genuinely think Wendigoon and Hunter would be quicker to pick up themes and incongruities if they didn’t stop after every paragraph to commentate or goof around, but that’s part of the fun of a podcast I suppose.
Like, if you just want to listen to a story you get an audiobook, if you want something fun to put on you pick a podcast.

Naturally.
I'm not overly critical of them for that exact reason, it just struck me as odd that they were so slow on it while their thing is reading & digesting stories.

 

[Meth Dick]

I just read this

I think it would be a neat little thing for Creepcast because I don't think they've ever done a comic series. The story is good too it a little cliche at some points maybe, but it's serviceable. And the artwork reminds me of a Berenstein Bears or a Little Critters children book.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

I just read this
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I think it would be a neat little thing for Creepcast because I don't think they've ever done a comic series. The story is good too it a little cliche at some points maybe, but it's serviceable. And the artwork reminds me of a Berenstein Bears or a Little Critters children book.

I've heard that comic is really good.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

I just read this
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I think it would be a neat little thing for Creepcast because I don't think they've ever done a comic series. The story is good too it a little cliche at some points maybe, but it's serviceable. And the artwork reminds me of a Berenstein Bears or a Little Critters children book.

I don't like horror designed to heavily resemble kids media as a rule because you could (and probably do) end up exposing kids who aren't ready to be exposed to that kind of thing.

When I was use to wander the Video Rental store aisles I'd see horror movie covers and my brain would immediately tell me "nope, doesn't matter how curious you are to find out what that is, that's a scary looking butterfly skull, better not touch it" and given that peeking around the corner to watch my family watch Jurassic Park gave me Velociraptor nightmares around the same time, childhood me was right.

 

[Meth Dick]

I've heard that comic is really good.

It is. I found a free read read of it online with the entire seriies, it's takes about a half hour-45 min to read if you're fast.
There's a sequel coming this summer too.

I don't like horror designed to heavily resemble kids media as a rule because you could (and probably do) end up exposing kids who aren't ready to be exposed to that kind of thing.

When I was use to wander the Video Rental store aisles I'd see horror movie covers and my brain would immediately tell me "nope, doesn't matter how curious you are to find out what that is, that's a scary looking butterfly skull, better not touch it" and given that peeking around the corner to watch my family watch Jurassic Park gave me Velociraptor nightmares around the same time, childhood me was right.

I mean the cover of the first issue has a bear dragging a bloody sack, and the other covers also have violent scenes depicted. Most cases of that shit are parents that couldn't be fucked to look into what they allow their kids to play/watch/read. I remember the people feigning outrage over Happy Tree Friends back in the day, and it could have been all avoided if parents actually paid attention. Things have age ratings for a reason.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

I just read this
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I think it would be a neat little thing for Creepcast because I don't think they've ever done a comic series. The story is good too it a little cliche at some points maybe, but it's serviceable. And the artwork reminds me of a Berenstein Bears or a Little Critters children book.

dexter but in the style of something like those franklin the turtle or berenstain bear books i used to read as a kid was not something i'd expect to like but for as short as it is, that was a fun read to go through

 

[Godchu]

double upload week

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I genuinely think Wendigoon and Hunter would be quicker to pick up themes and incongruities if they didn’t stop after every paragraph to commentate or goof around, but that’s part of the fun of a podcast I suppose.
Like, if you just want to listen to a story you get an audiobook, if you want something fun to put on you pick a podcast.

What also doesn't help as Wendi even mentioned they didn't read right through this, they divided it up between like 3 separate recording sessions as well and then edited them together.

I liked The Spire except for the ending part with the therapist, it just felt so weird and out of place. It made me remember that this was originally published online most likely is pieces as it feels like a reaction to Redditors leaving comments about addressing what happened to Alina. Cut that out and it'd be great. I'd see Reddit being upset cause if the main character is anything he's a critique of male feminists, he even starts the story whining about misogynistic undertones in ghost stories and than rapes a chick. I'm really curious about the dad cause he seems cool with his 15 year old son getting laid but after the lake he immediately moves to help help Kerry's mother and our narrator is convinced he's just trying to protect the family legally and isn't concerned about Kerry's mother but the our narrator isn't remotely reliable so was the father just trying to be a good person and the narrator just couldn't grasp that? we don't get much info about either parent but nothing supports the dad being the "shark" the narrator calls him.

At the very least I'd say it does the monster as metaphor schtick better than Tommy Taffy.

 

[Ser Prize]

I'm really torn on this one. Because on one hand it is well written in a prose stand point. But on the other hand it is, as far as I can discern, a story built around using a cool haunted bell tower to tell a story about hashtag believe all women and patriarchy and how men abuse women.

It is very, very preachy about it and while some people ITT attribute the muhsoggyknees sperging at the start as being a parody of a male feminist I really think that's an optimistic take. The whole story seems to be designed to be a take down of 'duh patriarchy' with both the protagonist and Adolf, with no nuance or consideration given in that pursuit.

The old clockmaker snaps and exacts revenge on the wife for cuckolding him? It's because he's an impotent old man who married a 'literal child' and was just mad he had his power stripped or something. Nothing to do with his fucking wife not only cheating on him but mocking him about it.

With the protagonist it's a bit more grey, but the story doesn't really acknowledge that Alina kept going to the creepy guy because she wanted something from him, even after he's made clear his intentions. In a better story this could be a nuanced take on how failure on all sides leads to something horrible happening, but instead he's just a rapist who didn't know that hashtag silence is not consent and needs to get heckin educated on consent.

 

[PrettySneakyCis]

I know the source of most of these is Reddit, but it’s starting to wear on me that 1/4 to 1/3 of the stories they pick are obsessed with rape. I can somehow manage to watch years worth of horror movies and not find one that involves a heckin’ MRA type Chud SAing his way through high school or the physical embodiment of a sex demon preying on 13-year-olds; it would be nice to go through three CreepCasts without the same.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

double upload week

It's pretty retarded subject, but makes for a pretty informative video, so I can't really complain. Literally the "it's better to be thrown out the windshield in a crash" for planes.

I know the source of most of these is Reddit, but it’s starting to wear on me that 1/4 to 1/3 of the stories they pick are obsessed with rape. I can somehow manage to watch years worth of horror movies and not find one that involves a heckin’ MRA type Chud SAing his way through high school or the physical embodiment of a sex demon preying on 13-year-olds; it would be nice to go through three CreepCasts without the same.

Rape is the last remaining social taboo left and thus the only one seen as worth being scared for. You can have films for 13 year old with flayed people or dead children, but putting penis in non willing vagina is a step too far.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

It's pretty retarded subject, but makes for a pretty informative video, so I can't really complain. Literally the "it's better to be thrown out the windshield in a crash" for planes.

Rape is the last remaining social taboo left and thus the only one seen as worth being scared for. You can have films for 13 year old with flayed people or dead children, but putting penis in non willing vagina is a step too far.

I mean when you're a lefty on reddit what else is there?

 

[rapeseed]

Finally finished the Spire episode, it had some interesting ideas but definitely wanted to crowbar in that rape message and as such ruined it. Isaiah noted two things about halfway through that would have infinitely improved the story, if it was actually interested in being a good story; he commented that it seemed like a coming of age story, and that the sex scene ruins the protagonist's character and his growth. In another story, Scary Kerry being put into a coma would be the wake-up call to not be a retarded irresponsible kid and the "rape" scene wouldn't have even happened because the protagonist would've realized Alina didn't like him that way; but a normal horny guy who does something risky for stupid reasons, nearly gets a friend killed and grows from the experience wasn't the story the author wanted to tell.

Spoiler: redditor garbage

Instead, the author wanted to tell a story where a young boy raised on "a lifetime of coming-of-age movies and pop culture" had "internalized the idea that (rape) was what guys were supposed to do" and that good girls would be "less eager" hence the crying and flagrant disregard of her boundaries. Except, what even were Alina's boundaries? The therapist at the end suggested that Alina let the protagonist fuck her because she was worried he'd kill himself if she didn't, with Rob's suicide weighing on her mind, but when the protagonist first kissed her (starting their "relationship") he hadn't yet seen the insanity-causing bells and he still hadn't by the time she stopped by after Christmas. On that: she had dinner with his family, agreed to watch a movie in his room (just the two of them, door closed), and she didn't express these boundaries as he kissed her or took her bra off, and she even nodded that she liked him after he stopped because she was crying. I didn't really understand why Isaiah thought she was using the protagonist, but in hindsight I get it; if she wasn't using him, why the fuck would she go to his house and meet his family for dinner? Why would she bother with this simulacrum of a relationship, if not because she liked the protagonist or he had something to offer her? It's irritating because I feel there's something decent here, Alina establishes right before their first kiss that their classmates blame her for Rob's suicide and think she's a rich shallow bitch, and the protagonist entirely ignores her perspective to make a move. He's obviously selfish and self-centered, too caught up in his own wants to see how his actions affect others; except this is where Scary Kerry almost dying would come in, especially as she liked our protagonist and wouldn't have been in that situation without him (and perhaps, her feelings for him). Isaiah and Hunter even mention this, how there was surely going to be some conflict where Kerry learns the protagonist is doing it to cozy up to Alina and they'd fight and she'd be put in danger as a result, but that didn't happen; Kerry is almost entirely sidelined, and so is Fletcher, because the story is about our protagonist not understanding consent and chimping out on her boyfriend thanks to magic rape bells, and then some timey-wimey bullshit followed by witnessing the ghost(?) wife of a misogynistic clockmaker named Adolf who killed her and stuffed her body in an automaton that's beaten and raped by automaton niggers. Because apparently, naming him "Adolf" wasn't enough of a hint that he's a real jerk.

Stories like Spire are why they say sincerity is dead, because in a story not focused on any social messages it would've been half as long and had a decent ending instead of a consent PSA. Isaiah sort of mentions this in the end, that it's a coming of age story where nothing happens; Hunter then states that going to therapy was that resolution and growth, and the sad thing is I think he's right, or at least that was the intention. Right off the bat, calling a story where an angry husband kills his wife and the man she cheated with "misogynistic" was a bad sign; there were other little things too, such as Fletcher's father "implying his son was unmanly" after Rob's suicide or the protagonist using the term "gender identity" for Kerry in 2013, but tripling down on the rape angle ruined the story and I could only laugh at the end when the warm caring jewish therapist was speaking yiddish and telling the protagonist he was a rapist. Hell, Alina completely left the story after the "rape", abandoning her interest altogether in the bells and Spire; the story was obviously a mouthpiece for the author by the end, and honestly I wish they didn't even cover it.

I genuinely think Wendigoon and Hunter would be quicker to pick up themes and incongruities if they didn’t stop after every paragraph to commentate or goof around, but that’s part of the fun of a podcast I suppose.
Like, if you just want to listen to a story you get an audiobook, if you want something fun to put on you pick a podcast.

I agree with this but I almost feel that the format kind of hurts the experience, yes it can be fun but instead of anything thoughtful it's largely Isaiah calling things cool and banting with Hunter as they miss themes and concepts of the story. I'm sure Isaiah would've picked up on the objectionable parts of the romance if Hunter wasn't making silly voices and mooing right before that sequence, which is why they were cheering on the protagonist instead of considering the implications (or if they even agree with said implications); I guess that's just part of the podcast experience, but I'd be interested in their actual thoughts and analysis of the concepts at hand instead of just Dido karaoke. I'm actually quite curious as to what Isaiah and Hunter thought of Spire because they seemed to like Tommy Taffy well enough and they called the audience whining babies for crying about the child rape in it; I don't think they're the type to soy out just because a story has rape, but I also think that at least in this episode the second the narrative suggested the encounter with Alina was rape they instantly folded and agreed that's what it was, when I'd argue it was messier than that and the rape angle is heavily forced and doesn't fit the story. The story even had the protagonist lose his Christian faith and gave direct reasons, yet Isaiah barely addressed this; no thoughts? None?

And then their non-stop redpill shit and the gay little PSA at the end. Fuck me.

I know that Wendigoon isn't "based", if that word still means anything, but they've been casually shitting on "MGTOW red pill guys" recently (despite conflating it with looksmaxxing/incel types, so they don't even know what they're talking about) and I don't know what to make of Isaiah anymore. I think this is partially due to him becoming mainstream, I wouldn't exactly call the CreepCast audience "edgy" (you'll note that Hunter hesitated to say "retard" in this episode), and I think there's been a significant shift away from the conspiracy gun guys that used to make up the Wendigoon audience. I never thought of him as a chud or anything, at best he was implicitly right wing, but it's still sad to see; I've been watching for years now and I'll continue to do so, I just have a bad feeling going forward. I know the flirting with Hunter is a joke, I know the crossdressing was a joke, but I had a bad feeling when Isaiah was getting friendly with that faggot Turkey Tom (and by extension, Destiny) and that feeling is back. Going mainstream and doing shows with Hunter as well as Charlie on that Red Thread podcast (apparently he left, I never watched the thing) is going to have consequences, if it hasn't already, and part of me thinks VeggieTales was right about Hunter, as he suggests Christ "laid pipe" in the Bible and Isaiah just laughs it off.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I mean when you're a lefty on reddit what else is there?

Probably misgenedering someone but it won't make for an interesting horror story

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

I mean the cover of the first issue has a bear dragging a bloody sack, and the other covers also have violent scenes depicted. Most cases of that shit are parents that couldn't be fucked to look into what they allow their kids to play/watch/read. I remember the people feigning outrage over Happy Tree Friends back in the day, and it could have been all avoided if parents actually paid attention. Things have age ratings for a reason.

Yea and I'm getting tired of being penalized for disassociated parents from their children. I get we should protect the youth but there is a reasonable threshold that doesn't need to be moved further.

Probably misgenedering someone but it won't make for an interesting horror story

I disagree, could be a good stalker horror. Things moving in the house, HRT replacing birth control pills, etc. Lots of avenues to make a campy Reddit Horror since often the greatest horrors of Reddit crossover into reality. Hell take inspiration from 764 and the other exploitation horrors that have cropped up or that tranny death cult who targeted ICE Agents. I don't think "society" of the online order are ever going to prepared for that. All of this misery simply because you misgendered someone.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I disagree, could be a good stalker horror. Things moving in the house, HRT replacing birth control pills, etc. Lots of avenues to make a campy Reddit Horror since often the greatest horrors of Reddit crossover into reality. Hell take inspiration from 764 and the other exploitation horrors that have cropped up or that tranny death cult who targeted ICE Agents. I don't think "society" of the online order are ever going to prepared for that. All of this misery simply because you misgendered someone.

If you're allowed to make trannies into the villains it can be pretty effective horror. The classic horror or referring to an occult entity in the wrong manner that ensured your doom.

Alternatively, the horror of being put into an alien body can be effective, Kafka's The Metamorphosis style.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

If you're allowed to make trannies into the villains it can be pretty effective horror. The classic horror or referring to an occult entity in the wrong manner that ensured your doom.

Alternatively, the horror of being put into an alien body can be effective, Kafka's The Metamorphosis style.

Long legs, your thinking of long legs

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

If you're allowed to make trannies into the villains

Yeah, that's really the rub. I still can't believe that Incident in a Ghostland was allowed to use an obvious tranny in horror. Tall. black hair dude flipping off the screaming girls:

But now that I think about it, as the younger generations get older, I welcome their potential content. Could be a return to actually edgy content on silver screens again.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

If you're allowed to make trannies into the villains it can be pretty effective horror. The classic horror or referring to an occult entity in the wrong manner that ensured your doom.

Alternatively, the horror of being put into an alien body can be effective, Kafka's The Metamorphosis style.

You could also do something fun with the trope of the monster can't hurt you if you're not afraid. The tranny can't hurt you if don't give into his suicide baiting.

Also MCP has uploaded his own read of Spire so I guess with creep cast not getting nuked the flood gates are opening.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

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