Wendigoon Thread

[AndSothisIsChristmas]

I never enjoy when he wastes time on copy-paste fictional horror, but I know that’s what the midwits crave and gave him his audience in the first place. He’s best when he’s doing religious or real-life psychological stuff- I quite enjoyed the Three Christs of Ypsilanti video recently.

 

[rapeseed]

My favorite part of the whole mess has been the people who have utterly lost their shit because they put out a Nendoroid of the rape lady with an optional "Squidward's sewer slide" head you can slap on.

There's an insufferable section of the internet that idolizes and obsesses over being raped and they've unfortunately entrenched themselves deeply within the Mouthwashing fandom, hence the mass spergouts over anything to do with Anya and the comical levels of hatred aimed at Jimmy. Yes, he's a bad person; that's the point of the game, you're witnessing his descent and failures, but The Raped can't get over him diddling their comfort character so the conversation ends at him being the antichrist.

As for the video, it's annoying because I swear he fell into the discourse laid out by the fandom. At one point he states that Anya "found out" she was pregnant and she "realized" that Jimmy raped her, even citing the fan theory that he roofied her (hence why he knows how to spike a drink). But the spiked drink includes isopropyl from the nurse's office and a cabinet Anya told him about post-crash, mouthwash that prior to the crash was sealed in the cargo hold which they hadn't yet opened, and sweetener that required the Captain's scanner to access at a time when Curly was captain. So Jimmy somehow gathered all these ingredients that he didn't have access to (or some other combination that we don't have reason to believe exists), inconspicuously slipped the drink to Anya (presumably during Swansea's birthday party, unless mocktails are a common occurrence which seems unlikely), snuck into her room (assuming they have private rooms, which is also unlikely but how would he rape her in a shared barrack?) while she's sleeping and raped her, and then some time later upon learning she's pregnant she deduced it's him (presumably via DNA testing that she probably doesn't have access to (or would even know how to operate, given how as Jimmy stated earlier- she didn't get into medical school)) and told Curly about this during the big picture/pixel scene but didn't bother showing him any proof, hence his later confusion at who impregnated her.

If that all sounds retarded that's because it is, and I refuse to believe Wendi (il)logically reached this conclusion on his own; I suspect he heard it going around and figured it made sense, he even said how "other people have said this" regarding drugging Anya so he's aware of the discourse and he's probably seen a few videos on the game. The problem is that the discourse is beyond poisoned and videos are made by said "other people", who are fucking retards. I like Wendi but I wish he'd gone in blind and made a video based solely on his thoughts and observations from the game itself, instead of making yet another "Jimmy hates orphans and kicks puppies" video of which every Mouthwashing analysis on youtube is some variation of.

Also, I didn't like the voice acting.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

As for the video, it's annoying because I swear he fell into the discourse laid out by the fandom. At one point he states that Anya "found out" she was pregnant and she "realized" that Jimmy raped her, even citing the fan theory that he roofied her (hence why he knows how to spike a drink).

I think Jimmy knowing how to spike drink is more to show his true character, than serve as evidence of what happened to Anya. Jimmy is a legit misogynist who does not value women at all as we see him treating Anya poorly by not just raping her, but belittling her, ignoring her advice, and showing more guilt and concern for what he has done to the male crew members than to her. Jimmy didn't learn how to roofie someone when he first got on the ship and him casually knowing how to points to him victimizing other women prior to the events of the game. Anya was just the last one of many, and the one he couldn't cover up or run away from.

I think Jimmy just went into her room and forced himself on her. Her being timid and Jimmy being the captain's BFF made it hard for her to come forward about the incident until the pregnancy complicated things because she would be due towards the end of the trip.

inconspicuously slipped the drink to Anya (presumably during Swansea's birthday party, unless mocktails are a common occurrence which seems unlikely)

If it was during Swansea's party then she would have been pregnant for over a year, and Anya was scared of Jimmy before Curly's birthday party which is why she didn't want to do his psych eval and had Curly do it for her. So she was raped sometime between the two parties, and I don't think hypothetical weekly (nonalcoholic) cocktail nights would do much to support the roofie theory.

told Curly about this during the big picture/pixel scene but didn't bother showing him any proof, hence his later confusion at who impregnated her.

Curly wasn't confused about who impregnated her, he was confused why his friend would do this. Curly wanted to smooth things over rather than confront Jimmy because Curly couldn't believe Jimmy would do such a thing. Also, it wasn't during the big picture scene, it was when she somehow breaks into the cockpit, gets into the captain's locker and steals the gun case (nothing on this ship is secure apparently)

snuck into her room (assuming they have private rooms, which is also unlikely but how would he rape her in a shared barrack?)

They have their own rooms, during the big picture talk she asked Curly why the medbay has a lock but not the sleeping quarters.

I refuse to believe Wendi (il)logically reached this conclusion on his own

As a regular watcher of Creepcast you would be surprised how hard his reading comprehension will fail him sometimes. Once he gets a theory in his head, he will latch on to it regardless if the story actually supports it or not. But yeah, his "research" on the story tainted the lens he viewed the game from.

EDIT: Just finished the whole video, the take more annoying than him latching on to the roofie theory is him constantly talking about how Jimmy thinks of Polle when thinking of Anya because he is worried about what he did and how it would impact the company and his standing in it. Completely forgetting that the company is dead and Jimmy just seems like he is out for him self riding off the coattails of Curly, he isn't a company man kinda guy like Curly.

Also, I didn't like the voice acting.

Nothing will ever top Internet Historian as Gary in the FAITH video

 

[The Bogwater Flows On]

Maybe I'm just burnt out on video game essays, or maybe I've just become really cynical, but I don't think very many games actually have enough substance to them to warrant 3 hour long videos. Whether you're talking about the underlying symbolism or doing some PatricianTV style nitpick extravaganza, it doesn't take 3 hours.

The extra problem with trying to expand upon Mouthwashing is the entire game is just "ERM MAYBE THE RAPIST IDIOT IS A BAD PERSON WHO DOES BAD THINGS?????"

I fully understand being some of the first people playing it and getting an amazing experience, but I had the entire experience spoiled for me by just googling to find out what kind of game Mouthwashing fucking was.

Edited to make sense of the dumb shit I'm writing.

Edit 2: We are in the "It's so over phase" of Mr. Goon. I imagine we'll have some good shit in like the next two weeks (fingers crossed)

 

[Day of the Cope]

rape videogame verbal walkthrough.

E: emphasis on walkthrough. The (admittedly shitty, apart from Hunter's) voiceover dialogue is nice, but so far he's not doing anything different from all the other youtubers out there. It's really funny that Kayla voices Anya

E2: the voiceover has grown on me, but Kayla is still pretty bad. You know, this story is intentionally or unintentionally kind of based. Jimmy seems exactly like the kind of guy who would get a long thread on here, maybe in the skinditch.

I don't usually do this, but I had to put the playback speed on 1.5x to get through it. Anyway, I'm glad this video exists because the whole fucking game feels just as overrated as I imagined. I knew exactly what that flashing, red text was going to say the second I saw it. I've seen thrown rocks that were less predictable in where they land than this fucking game.

Edit: When Swanson was first talking about clearing out the foam, my first reaction was "he's completely talking out of his ass and lying" and, lo and behold, we find out that he was lying about the amount of foam in the room. Literally my first reaction of "this guy is lying" and the game shocks me by exposing him as the liar I expected him to be.


Holy fuck, they have a segment where you literally "back away from responsibility". This game must go really hard if you're actually retarded because I've seen death metal album covers with more subtly.


Also, how fucking stupid do you have to be to leave achievement popups enabled while you're recording footage? How fucking lazy do you have to be to not go back and record it without the achievement popup and notification sound?

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

I'm always confused about games like these where it's not even a long or complicated game but people still manage to confuse or greatly misunderstand lore and timeline stuff, to the point where the "consensus" of how something happened in the game doesn't match up to the reality of what actually happened.

I've seen this happen a lot with media in recent years and I'm wondering if it's an attention span issue or an IQ issue, or a "believing what retards say instead of trusting your lying eyes" issue.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Also, I didn't like the voice acting.

Meat as Swansea was pretty decent though. Maybe it's ironic that the fat guy known for making gross-out cartoons really managed to capture the angry old fat guy.

I like Wendi but him as Jimmy came across as very try-hard. I don't expect him to be fucking Matthew Mercer or anything, but jeez.

Didn't like whoever voiced Anya either.

Nothing will ever top Internet Historian as Gary in the FAITH video

Oh certainly.

I've seen this happen a lot with media in recent years and I'm wondering if it's an attention span issue or an IQ issue, or a "believing what retards say instead of trusting your lying eyes" issue.

Yes.

But it's also the agenda pushers and people rallying being muh media literacy. When that word gets thrown around by retards thinking they are goddamn Immanuel Kant, you get this feedback loop of cliques where people with less backbone and sense than a thirst for validation, just mindlessly rely on the most popular theory. Especially when it relates to their politics.

For more info, see "Yume Nikke and Madotsuki is trans".

Edit: sort of makes me think of that one time, I saw someone claim that First Blood, specifically the movie and not the book, was a metaphor for the treatment of black people through the twentieth century.

There's a lot of stupidity to unpack here so I'm not even gonna bother.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Journal of an Unknown Soldier | Creep Cast

Fan submitted story to the subreddit, interesting to see if they’re gentler with it. Obligatory NoSleep shitting to start.

A thought occurred to me about these types of stories.
There’s probably a ton of them, but a survival-horror videogame where you get lost in the woods, have to survive, and are stalked by strange entities would be pretty lit.
Like, you have to go from point A to point B but on the way you’re being hunted by skinwalkers so you have to balance survival with stealth.

Kind of sounds like Darkwood. Top down survival horror, you scavenge ruins in the woods during the day dealing with peripheral minor threats and at night you have to hunker down while getting attacked by all kinds of shit.

 

[Rick The Stick]

Journal of an Unknown Soldier

Immediately makes me think of the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Immediately makes me think of the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier.

Makes me think of the Finnish movie The Unknown Soldier about WW2 and remakes and now I want a horror story set on the Finnish front. I feel like some horror preying on Finns and Russians alike in the dead of winter would be neat. Have a squadron of Finns find a Soviet column horrifically butchered in the woods and then they get picked off one by one.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

... did they seriously fucking censor Hunter saying "Injun"?

 

[Negev]

A thought occurred to me about these types of stories.
There’s probably a ton of them, but a survival-horror videogame where you get lost in the woods, have to survive, and are stalked by strange entities would be pretty lit.
Like, you have to go from point A to point B but on the way you’re being hunted by skinwalkers so you have to balance survival with stealth.

This is a good concept, the problem is getting someone to make it without it being generic survival horror crafting garbage, or shitty "everything has a super deep meaning" stuff

 

[Aunt Carol]

Anyway, I'm glad this video exists because the whole fucking game feels just as overrated as I imagined.

Your analysis is excellent overall, but this is a key point: Wendi's 1:1 recap video managed to come out earlier than the length of time it takes me to go from "huh, everyone seems to be into this thing" to "ok, time to check out this thing."

I did appreciate that Wendi did some closet cosplay to match Daisuke's shirt in the greenscreen background.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Goddammit Wendigoon. Reviving Mouthwashing discourse for no satisfactory reason. Now I get the pleasure of seeing shit like this in my feed again.



There is no other take I see from Mouthwashing fans tbh, you go "huh this game is kinda interesting" and then everyone else goes "Oh I know man, this game is the new gold standard because it talks about the not talked about enough issue of RAPE" and then proceed to talk about nothing in the game except rape and wanting to murder. The doctors said the eye-rolls are getting too severe for my head.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

As for the video, it's annoying because I swear he fell into the discourse laid out by the fandom. At one point he states that Anya "found out" she was pregnant and she "realized" that Jimmy raped her, even citing the fan theory that he roofied her (hence why he knows how to spike a drink). But the spiked drink includes isopropyl from the nurse's office and a cabinet Anya told him about post-crash, mouthwash that prior to the crash was sealed in the cargo hold which they hadn't yet opened, and sweetener that required the Captain's scanner to access at a time when Curly was captain. So Jimmy somehow gathered all these ingredients that he didn't have access to (or some other combination that we don't have reason to believe exists), inconspicuously slipped the drink to Anya (presumably during Swansea's birthday party, unless mocktails are a common occurrence which seems unlikely), snuck into her room (assuming they have private rooms, which is also unlikely but how would he rape her in a shared barrack?) while she's sleeping and raped her, and then some time later upon learning she's pregnant she deduced it's him (presumably via DNA testing that she probably doesn't have access to (or would even know how to operate, given how as Jimmy stated earlier- she didn't get into medical school)) and told Curly about this during the big picture/pixel scene but didn't bother showing him any proof, hence his later confusion at who impregnated her.

I might be misremembering it incorrectly, but did the game ever explicitly mention rape or is it just common fan idea? When I played it looked to me more like they were casually fucking until rape lady realized he is unhinged and she got pregnant in the process and now in the position where she feels uncomfortable but still able to interact with him (which is really weird type of interaction if he did rape her). Trying to conceptualize some magic roofie fits trying to shoehorn the theory, since god forbid a woman fucks a bad guy out of her own volition and regrets it. Either that or bad writing.

It's funny that fan theorizing is dead the second the fanbase decides on somethings.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I like Wendi but him as Jimmy came across as very try-hard. I don't expect him to be fucking Matthew Mercer or anything, but jeez.

Didn't like whoever voiced Anya either.

Anya was Wendi's wife lol.

Also GG and Drewski should have swapped roles. Drewski's laid-back voice fits Curly better while GG sounds younger and would have fit the intern more.

I might be misremembering it incorrectly, but did the game ever explicitly mention rape or is it just common fan idea?

The strongest hint that it was non consensual was Anya asking why the crew quarters do not have locks on them to Curly.

When I played it looked to me more like they were casually fucking until rape lady realized he is unhinged and she got pregnant in the process

I didn’t get that impresson at all. If anything she had a bit of chemistry with Curly.

now in the position where she feels uncomfortable but still able to interact with him (which is really weird type of interaction if he did rape her).

She is portrayed as incredibly meek and they are trapped together. Her interactions are more trying to placate him because there isn't much else she can do.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Anya was Wendi's wife lol.

Is there some kind of commentary or dark joke in Wendiwife voicing the character who was raped by the character voiced by Wendigoon?

Jokes aside:

There is no other take I see from Mouthwashing fans tbh, you go "huh this game is kinda interesting" and then everyone else goes "Oh I know man, this game is the new gold standard because it talks about the not talked about enough issue of RAPE" and then proceed to talk about nothing in the game except rape and wanting to murder. The doctors said the eye-rolls are getting too severe for my head.

I see this a lot in order media, too. People just focusing on the graphic violence without understanding the point - if there is a point.

Like when FNAF got big, people were mainly talking about child murders with no tact or reason or salivating over William Afton - until that picture of him made him not hot but first child murder and child murder and more child murder.

And yes, that is a part of the series, but it's also a part and not THE part.

Evidently, the exact same thing is happening with Mouthwashing. People are hyperfocusing on the rape and literally nothing else about the game.

 

[Annealing Crater]

I've seen this happen a lot with media in recent years and I'm wondering if it's an attention span issue or an IQ issue, or a "believing what retards say instead of trusting your lying eyes" issue.

In addition to these factors, a plurality or greater of online fandom retards these days are people whose sole interaction with the original media is watching YouTube video essays, TikTok clips, or seeing fan art.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

In addition to these factors, a plurality or greater of online fandom retards these days are people whose sole interaction with the original media is watching YouTube video essays, TikTok clips, or seeing fan art.

The at this point cliche of South Park fujos spending hundreds of hours drawing 4th grade boys kissing each other and then being scandalized by actual dialogue from the show being toxic and problematic because they’ve barely ever watched it.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Like when FNAF got big, people were mainly talking about child murders with no tact or reason or salivating over William Afton - until that picture of him made him not hot but first child murder and child murder and more child murder.

And yes, that is a part of the series, but it's also a part and not THE part.

To be fair, FNAF is over 10 years old and is a proper franchise, so there is a lot more going on than just purple guy. Mouthwashing is a lot shorter and more streamlined plot wise. So there is less to discuss. Honestly, it might be for the best they focus on the rape, else they might focus on the baby instead and get real lost in the weeds of the pro-life/pro-abortion debate.