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I fervently believe that these were the three best shows to come out of Cartoon Network:

No. 1:

No. 2:

No. 3: (especially the Kirk Tingblad episodes)

No. 4 is I Am Weasel and No. 5 is Courage the Cowardly Dog.

And as an added bonus, here is a video that will once and for all prove why Charlie Adler is the greatest voice actor who ever lived:

No arguments here!
 
Jay Ward is great. I think I like his stuff more when I'm older than when I first saw them as a kid.

Nobody can ever really appreciate it unless you finally come to maturity to realize what was there.

Jay Ward's cartoons are evidence for how strong writing can overcome anything - even cheap Mexican limited animation that looked really awful at times. The cartoons are classics through the wit and cleverness of the stories and gags alone.
 
Jay Ward's cartoons are evidence for how strong writing can overcome anything - even cheap Mexican limited animation that looked really awful at times.

True. The animation didn't marred that part. Of course there were times when he did sneak in a few in-house stuff and it showed.

The cartoons are classics through the wit and cleverness of the stories and gags alone.
True too.
 
Was also a big fan of the original animated LOTR. I need to dig that out again.

Did anyone watch Brickleberry? I only became aware of this show today. Already cancelled, like every other show I seem to find, but the brief bits Ive seen showed promise. Vulgar, disgusting promise.
 
I always have a soft-spot for the older (pre-2001) Nicktoons. In my eyes, shit started to go downhill as soon as the network developed a sense of favoritism towards the sponge.
 
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The sponge certainly killed much of Nick's glory after the end of the last century.
 
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Not to mention, he is partly responsible for causing the Animation Fandom to become ungodly spergy.

I'd kind of attribute that to the supposed "renaissance" Cartoon Network had. And, of course, the fact that most action cartoons made since 1999 or so are mainly enjoyed by spergs in and of themselves.

Speaking of the supposed CN renaissance, I watched about 75% of Over the Garden Wall for the first time last night... I didn't really get it.

Oh, sure, I liked the voice work, I liked the aesthetic, and it was even pretty funny at parts. But the whole thing being one continuing story was kind of the stickling point for me. It was going somewhere, I knew, but I didn't understand where exactly it was going or what it was heading to.

Some of the sequences also left something to be desired as well... The people who were watching it with me said the highwayman's song was, well, a sort of artsy sequence. It didn't last very long and, honestly, it could have been longer. Something to leave its mark on the imagination, like Cab Calloway's musical numbers in Betty Boop cartoons, which is what I think it was homaging.

I honestly don't know if it's me or not, but I definitely think it could have been a little bit more than it was.

And the credits ran by so fast I could barely see who did the voice work. Minor niggling, I know, but I feel we have a right to see who did the voice work.

(I was happy to find that the schoolteacher in episode 3 was voiced by Janet Klein, who for some time now has done an excellent 20s revival act in the L.A. area. Closest thing to Annette Hanshaw these days.)
 
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Did anyone watch Brickleberry? I only became aware of this show today. Already cancelled, like every other show I seem to find, but the brief bits Ive seen showed promise. Vulgar, disgusting promise.
i saw no one like this show. headed up by daniel tosh, it was like the worst of his jokes strung together for 20 minutes. it had kaitlin olson (sweet dee from it's always sunny) in a voice role somehow, but she dropped that show like a ton of bricks and they recast the role.
i think the only reason it ever happened was a 'if you wont air it, we'll take it to the other guys' between adult swim and comedy central
 
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I'd kind of attribute that to the supposed "renaissance" Cartoon Network had. And, of course, the fact that most action cartoons made since 1999 or so are mainly enjoyed by spergs in and of themselves.
Reminded of the one Nicktoon that never happened.

Speaking of the supposed CN renaissance, I watched about 75% of Over the Garden Wall for the first time last night... I didn't really get it.
You're not alone.

Oh, sure, I liked the voice work, I liked the aesthetic, and it was even pretty funny at parts. But the whole thing being one continuing story was kind of the stickling point for me. It was going somewhere, I knew, but I didn't understand where exactly it was going or what it was heading to.
I would give it points for trying at least (of course, doing a more sequential storyline takes a lot more effort than what was done here).

Some of the sequences also left something to be desired as well... The people who were watching it with me said the highwayman's song was, well, a sort of artsy sequence. It didn't last very long and, honestly, it could have been longer. Something to leave its mark on the imagination, like Cab Calloway's musical numbers in Betty Boop cartoons, which is what I think it was homaging.
I'm sure there's plenty they could do to these (if only as a bonus for the home video release if they couldn't fit it into the broadcast version).

I honestly don't know if it's me or not, but I definitely think it could have been a little bit more than it was.
Perhaps if they gave it a few more episodes than the amount they had, it could've been fleshed out more.

And the credits ran by so fast I could barely see who did the voice work. Minor niggling, I know, but I feel we have a right to see who did the voice work.
We all do, but all they want to do is quickly get the next show on schedule and not bother with pacing. That's been my beef with TV in general these days. Nobody ever takes a stop for these moments like they used to. Why I had gravitated to anime at one point over appreciating those opening/closing sequences because they could let them play out a tad longer than a minute (of course the whole point of those is to make you buy the CD but that's another thing) and you could read the names if you wanted.

(I was happy to find that the schoolteacher in episode 3 was voiced by Janet Klein, who for some time now has done an excellent 20s revival act in the L.A. area. Closest thing to Annette Hanshaw these days.)
Cool to know.

i saw no one like this show. headed up by daniel tosh, it was like the worst of his jokes strung together for 20 minutes. it had kaitlin olson (sweet dee from it's always sunny) in a voice role somehow, but she dropped that show like a ton of bricks and they recast the role.
i think the only reason it ever happened was a 'if you wont air it, we'll take it to the other guys' between adult swim and comedy central
I wonder how often this excuse has worked for many shows lately?
 
Is it me or has rebooting tv shows of the past become pretty much one of the main objectives in the last five years?
I am not necessarily complaining about it and I am aware that there have been reboots of old cartoons/new incarnations also prior to 2010 and so on. Like 4Kids TMNT show.
But looking over it, there have been more reboots of merchandise driven licences and general cartoons than before.
TMNT, MLP, Thundercats, Carebears and Transformers come to mind when it comes to merchandise driven stuff and general cartoons are represented by the Looney Tunes Show, the new Mickey Mouse shorts, a supposed Powerpuff Girl reboot, a failed Xiaolin Showdown show and so on. Even the british seem now to get on it.


I just wonder, why? I get it for merchandise driven stuff like TMNT and Transformers, but Danger Mouse of all things?
 
Is it me or has rebooting tv shows of the past become pretty much one of the main objectives in the last five years?
I am not necessarily complaining about it and I am aware that there have been reboots of old cartoons/new incarnations also prior to 2010 and so on. Like 4Kids TMNT show.
But looking over it, there have been more reboots of merchandise driven licences and general cartoons than before.
TMNT, MLP, Thundercats, Carebears and Transformers come to mind when it comes to merchandise driven stuff and general cartoons are represented by the Looney Tunes Show, the new Mickey Mouse shorts, a supposed Powerpuff Girl reboot, a failed Xiaolin Showdown show and so on. Even the british seem now to get on it.


I just wonder, why? I get it for merchandise driven stuff like TMNT and Transformers, but Danger Mouse of all things?

We're out of ideas as a nation.

You know how Tara Strong and her fellow original PPG voices aren't happy that they weren't even considered for the new show? Frankly, as soon as that one airs they're going to be saying "Dodged a bullet there..."
 
We're out of ideas as a nation.

You know how Tara Strong and her fellow original PPG voices aren't happy that they weren't even considered for the new show? Frankly, as soon as that one airs they're going to be saying "Dodged a bullet there..."

Oh please. That bitch works on TTG. As if she could appreciate the fact she dodged a bullet. She has a freaking bullseye on her forehead when it comes to voiceacting.
Here is a suggestion for new animated shows: Drop the freaking tumblr-like artstyle, stop being "progressive" (I would appreciate a cartoon as racist as 1940s Warner Bros by now more than Steven Universe), rehire whoever worked on Pinky and the Brain and shows like that and you get at least in the right direction.
 
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