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That movie will always be funny to me because it's literally just Seth Rogen and the writers screaming about how there is no God and you're a retard if you're religious, and the message of the movie is that you have to stop being an annoying Reddit atheist if you want to show people the truth about existence.
And this isn't the only animated dreck produced and written by Rogen. Remember, Santa Inc. was a thing, and the new animated TMNT movie is going to be worse.
 
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And this isn't the only animated dreck produced and written by Rogen. Remember, Santa Inc. was a thing, and the new animated TMNT movie is going to be worse. You know how every generation has its funny Fatman? For some it may be Rodney dangerfield, or John candy, or John belushi, or maybe even John Goodman. Once upon a time Seth Rogan was a genuinely funny fatguy. Sure he was also the same obnoxious stoner he was back he stared along side the likes of Steve Carrel or branched out on his own in knocked up. But those roles were actually funny. Now that he's going gray and the same audience who laughed at his antics are either grown up or moving on to the next funny man of comedy Rogan had the option to either retire with grace and dignity or go woke in a desperate attempt to stay relevant in tinsel town....guess which option he went with? Point is Rogan stay out of western animation you don't have the knack or appeal to be good at it...well ASIDE ONE role he had, the blue mouse thing in Horton hears a who.
 
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well ASIDE ONE role he had, the blue mouse thing in Horton hears a who.
Well, what about the Mantis in the Kung Fu Panda movies?
You know how every generation has its funny Fatman? For some it may be Rodney dangerfield, or John candy, or John belushi, or maybe even John Goodman. Once upon a time Seth Rogan was a genuinely funny fatguy. Sure he was also the same obnoxious stoner he was back he stared along side the likes of Steve Carrel or branched out on his own in knocked up. But those roles were actually funny. Now that he's going gray and the same audience who laughed at his antics are either grown up or moving on to the next funny man of comedy Rogan had the option to either retire with grace and dignity or go woke in a desperate attempt to stay relevant in tinsel town....guess which option he went with?
Only a few good movies I liked were Observe and Report and Paul. He basically has the same problem as Kevin Smith, whereas Smith was once good but has lost any quality a decade later, Rogen stopped being good after five years.
 
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Well, what about the Mantis in the Kung Fu Panda movies?
Oh yeah fair point my bad but that's just it his role in that was so small I barley remember it I remember David cross as crane more than I do Rogan as mantis though maybe because crane had a funnier line.

Crane: you don't belong here.

Po thinks he means the temple and being the dragon warrior.

Crane: no I mean you don't belong IN here...see this...this is my room.

Only a few good movies I liked were Observe and Report and Paul. He basically has the same problem as Kevin Smith, whereas Smith was once good but has lost any quality a decade later, Rogen stopped being good after five years.
And again these guys had potential once and were more or less "one of us." Not us in kiwis but us as in traditional geeks and geek culture. Would sausage party or Santa Inc or the 2020s he man have been better had they been made in the 2000s or early 2010s prior to 2015-2016? I can't say for sure but I can say 2000s Kevin Smith and Seth Rogan where a lot better than 2010s 2020s Smith and rogan..mainly because they almost felt like completely different people.
 
And again these guys had potential once and were more or less "one of us." Not us in kiwis but us as in traditional geeks and geek culture. Would sausage party or Santa Inc or the 2020s he man have been better had they been made in the 2000s or early 2010s prior to 2015-2016? I can't say for sure but I can say 2000s Kevin Smith and Seth Rogan where a lot better than 2010s 2020s Smith and rogan..mainly because they almost felt like completely different people.
The thing is that Kevin Smith's quality lasted longer than Rogen's. See, during the 90s until the early-2000s, Kevin Smith actually used to have quality starting his very low budget movie in 1994. His downfall started in 2004 with Jersey Girl, and even with a couple okay movies he's made, he hasn't recovered, and 2010 saw the year of Cop Out, a film he made but did not direct, and has gotten worse since.
 
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This is a Google doc of reviews from people who had worked in different Animation studios. A lot of these are studios that work on western animation. If you're interested because you plan on working in the industry yourself, or you just want to see how shitty most of jobs are, check it out.
Apparently Nickelodeon hates BIPOCS and LGBT people:
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Well on a lighter note... Did you ever notice how the Beatles had something of a comeback in the 90s....in western animation? From small nods and references like appearing as literal Beetles in an episodeof catdog. To two animated episodes of two shows that more less retold their story albeit as a parody. Those episodes being Homer's barbershop quartet and the powerpuff girls meet the beat alls. Really a lot of things from the late 50s to most of the 60s and even the 70s gained nostalgic throwbacks in the 90s.




Maybe it's cause the folks behind those episodes like the simpsons writer or Craig and genndy while not as...old as they are now where up there in Yeats enough to at least remember their bygone days of being sprouts and enjoying the music and culture of the era and paying tribute to it in their works. Shame such reverence of the past couldn't be repeated 30 years later.
 
Well on a lighter note... Did you ever notice how the Beatles had something of a comeback in the 90s....in western animation? From small nods and references like appearing as literal Beetles in an episodeof catdog. To two animated episodes of two shows that more less retold their story albeit as a parody. Those episodes being Homer's barbershop quartet and the powerpuff girls meet the beat alls. Really a lot of things from the late 50s to most of the 60s and even the 70s gained nostalgic throwbacks in the 90s.




Maybe it's cause the folks behind those episodes like the simpsons writer or Craig and genndy while not as...old as they are now where up there in Yeats enough to at least remember their bygone days of being sprouts and enjoying the music and culture of the era and paying tribute to it in their works. Shame such reverence of the past couldn't be repeated 30 years later.
Yeah, it's just the nostalgia cycle working its magic again. The kids who were growing up in the late 50s-early 70s got old and experienced enough to have influential jobs, nothing more and nothing less. If the Beatles weren't as big as they were it would've been some other band or group instead of them getting their corpses paraded around as "the greatest thing evar" for a decade or two.
 
Well on a lighter note... Did you ever notice how the Beatles had something of a comeback in the 90s....in western animation? From small nods and references like appearing as literal Beetles in an episodeof catdog. To two animated episodes of two shows that more less retold their story albeit as a parody. Those episodes being Homer's barbershop quartet and the powerpuff girls meet the beat alls. Really a lot of things from the late 50s to most of the 60s and even the 70s gained nostalgic throwbacks in the 90s.
Hey wait, you forgot that one Angry Beavers episode where Norb and Dag sing Beaver Fever. That episode was on the same line.

Even going into the 2000s, there were other episodes that had that same storyline. Futurama, for example, had one where Bender sang with episode guest star Beck to help broken robots, and especially including my boy @Flexo.
 
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While I have nothing against this movie...I fucking hate the cookie cutter pixar look.
Still better than their current 3d calarts vomit. I will say that it's pretty generic comparing it to some of their animations earlier than a few years ago. And the English VAs sound like shit as per usual.

I mean, it’s also gonna be the usual “shitting all over small towns and non-big city people” jokes all throughout this thing too.
They also brought up the long dead 'screaming goat' meme that for some reason has been referenced several times by other 'comedy writers' over the past few years. So be ready for it to be packed with other such drivel along that line.
 
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Yeah, it's just the nostalgia cycle working its magic again. The kids who were growing up in the late 50s-early 70s got old and experienced enough to have influential jobs, nothing more and nothing less. If the Beatles weren't as big as they were it would've been some other band or group instead of them getting their corpses paraded around as "the greatest thing evar" for a decade or two.
Pretty much. I'm sure it fades out eventually. I barely hear shit about Elvis as I had decades ago, the same will happen to the Fab Four too.
 
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