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Good ol times when cartoons were cool and not lgbtq gooner nerd shit
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This "stuck culture" of pointless reboots and revamps and remakes of IPs has a lot of weird mixing together of sentiments from the 'creators', about how "we're doing this with details and references for the SUPERFANS" and "who cares if we got it wrong, it's just a show, shut up you dumb nerd".
The issue isn't that Dante is making cringe jokes but that he is feeling shame in it and lampshading how dorky he is when the games Dante is shameless and doesn't care what other people think of him.

Show!Dante acts like an MCU character who makes self referential jokes to have the viewer know they're in on the joke and aware how bad it is
 
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This "stuck culture" of pointless reboots and revamps and remakes of IPs has a lot of weird mixing together of sentiments from the 'creators', about how "we're doing this with details and references for the SUPERFANS" and "who cares if we got it wrong, it's just a show, shut up you dumb nerd".
I love how there's no mention of SMT Nocturne's Dante

he had the dmc 2 get up, and was even more in character than his actual game,
had the perfect mix of serious and fucking around, not once did anything even slightly cringe for the entire game.
I'm pretty sure it was Reuben's last time he voiced him in the HD remaster.

"ERRM WELL THIS IS TEEN DANTE, HE CAN'T BE TOO COOL HE HAS TO BE SHITTY BECAUSE HE WAS ALWAYS SHITTY"
he was always cool, this faggot is sounding like the reboot devs trying to paint Dante as "not cool" and gay
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you can't even do something like this today
instead you just get "it was always shit"
 
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A... good Looney Tunes movie?
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They made a good Looney Tunes movie? And it took an external company not even related to Warner Bros. to release it?! And they didn't even market it that well?!
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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS FUCKIN' WORLD?! WE GET
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THESE SHITTY MOVIES MARKETED TO HELL AND BACK AND SHOVED IN OUR FACES,
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BUT NOT THIS ONE?!
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Like, what the hell?! W-Why would you do that?! It's good!
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I mean - it's not great, but it's the best modern interpretation of the Looney Tunes we've had so far!
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It's actually funny and strangely heartfelt!
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Why bury the gem, and dig up the turds?
Memes aside, holy shit they did it. They actually modernized the Looney Tunes while still keeping it's all-ages, wacky, goofy spirit. The animation is great, the gags hit bullseyes more often than not, the Porky/Petunia romance is surprisingly pretty well done, there's a twist that you actually can't see coming....I'm going to sound Reddit-y as fuck when I say this, but I legit felt like a kid again, watching the Golden Collection DVDs, and I was grinning from ear to ear and laughing the whole time. This is worth sailing the high seas for, or hell, actually going out to see it, like I did. Show WB where the money is. Hopefully we'll get more like it.
 
But it does worry me that it's apparently not being shown in all AMC theaters, I guess? The closest AMC theaters here don't even have it listed.
Don't put the lovingly animated, actual Looney Tunes movie in as many theaters as possible, but BY ALL MEANS, SHOVE SPACE JAM 2 DOWN OUR GODDAMN GULLETS.
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Warner Bros. make me sick.
 
I see a lot of the "Animation is Cinema!" people ignoring or even disdaining The Day The Earth Blew Up because in their eyes "animation is cinema" means garbage like endless Shrek sequels, or Pixar movies featuring character designs like uglier versions of those boneless blob people from that GrubHub commercial, not stuff that's actually good.

Animated films from the American industry have, with a few overlooked exceptions, been mostly mindless CGI garbage with no artistic merit, produced by people with no feeling for the medium who are more concerned with getting the biggest Epstein flight passenger to voice their dumb main character. "Our movie is great, we got Ryan Gosling to provide the main character's voice!" "No, our animated feature is great because we've got [obnoxious actor known for comedy roles who will probably fall out of favor by next year] voicing the character who doesn't fit in where he lives and must defy the status quo!" "Our movie has you all beat, we have Awkwafina providing the voice of a retarded squirrel!" This is the mindset most American animated films have been made with since the early 2000s.
 
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Warner Bros has to have the worst handling of their IPs imaginable
I recall that as soon as Back in Action failed, Cartoon Network pulled the vast majority of old Looney Tunes reruns. Fast forward to today, most kids don't even know who Bugs Bunny is, much less Daffy and Porky.

The strangest part about it is that, if you look back you can see that Looney Tunes material was everywhere in the 1990s, it was arguably a bigger part of Warner Bros' brand than DC was. But when the new millennium started. All interest in the characters suddenly faded.
 
I recall that as soon as Back in Action failed, Cartoon Network pulled the vast majority of old Looney Tunes reruns. Fast forward to today, most kids don't even know who Bugs Bunny is, much less Daffy and Porky.

The strangest part about it is that, if you look back you can see that Looney Tunes material was everywhere in the 1990s, it was arguably a bigger part of Warner Bros' brand than DC was. But when the new millennium started. All interest in the characters suddenly faded.
MGM won, this is now a Tom & Jerry dominated world and people think of Space Jam and that baby spinoff used as daytime filler on CN 20 years ago when they hear Looney Tunes now.
 
I see a lot of the "Animation is Cinema!" people ignoring or even disdaining The Day The Earth Blew Up because in their eyes "animation is cinema" means garbage like endless Shrek sequels, or Pixar movies featuring character designs like uglier versions of those boneless blob people from that GrubHub commercial, not stuff that's actually good.
They'll eat up shit like "Sneaks" as long as it's CGI.

No, I'm not going to link the trailer. It's actual fucking cringe and I can't believe someone was dumb enough to greenlight it.
 
I thought you were just making up a hypothetical retarded Pixer knockoff but the lack of qualification had me worried.
Then I googled it.

I fucking hate it how hollywood has entire production teams dedicated to making 10/10 racial comedy. It's really hard on guys like us.
AI might be evening the playfield but you can't just tell it to make a movie for black people about shoes coming to life.
 
Anyhoo, needed to chew on the Daffy & Porky movie for a bit, but I like it. It kinda feels like this was definitely a project put together by a small group of people who just really wanted to make a film for the iconic duo, and it's probably not any wonder why I get the impression WB is trying to bury the movie. For whatever reason they're just allergic to money. Maybe that should be a Looney Tunes character for a future project, someone who just gets hives at the sight of cash, at the very thought of making a profit. I just want satire to return to the franchise, y'know?

If I had to make one criticism of the film, it's about how it's over-animated at times. It's weird to say without pulling up examples especially since it relied a lot on visual gags on top of some wordplay here and there, but it's almost like the animators were trying to avoid not having something move on the screen. It's almost Don Bluthy in nature, except that we forgive Don Bluth for it because it was the man's literal calling in life to just animate, so he wants to just show off the magic of 2D movement. I don't know the reason behind the animators not wanting to let things sit still or have filler frames of animation, just that it was weird at times. You can emulate the look of old-school Looney Tunes without pork.

Maybe they were trying to get the look of '90s Warner animation, now that I think about it? I had picked up some vibes in not just the writing, but in the composition. It's like they were trying to go for a movie in which, if it came out in the '90s before (or because of) Space Jam, this was what they wanted as kids.

I was happy that people actually came into this (little) theater to see the movie, there was even a little girl who came in with I think her grandparents. However, I honestly couldn't tell you how many people chuckled or laughed at the film, I was probably the only one who was chuckling at parts, but that might just be because of the "Lol meta animation/art humor" that I can pick up on. I hope everyone enjoyed themselves, but I cannot trust the normie audience to actually leave the theater and say they can recommend it to friends and family without a second thought. This is definitely going to rely on the animation crowd to get recs for, and if @Commander X is correct that not even they are going out of their way to say "Holy shit go see this film" likely because their hate for Zaslov is too strong, then I guess we as a community don't deserve jackshit and I hope everyone who worked on this film gets redpilled hard that this industry isn't worth saving at this point.
 
I see a lot of the "Animation is Cinema!" people ignoring or even disdaining The Day The Earth Blew Up
This is definitely going to rely on the animation crowd to get recs for, and if @Commander X is correct that not even they are going out of their way to say "Holy shit go see this film" likely because their hate for Zaslov is too strong, then I guess we as a community don't deserve jackshit and I hope everyone who worked on this film gets redpilled hard that this industry isn't worth saving at this point.
the ones who are urging people to see it are doing it for the dumbest reason: "if this does well, Coyote vs. Acme might be released!"
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"if this does well, Coyote vs. Acme might be released!"
Did Coyote v. deserve to get shelved because some asshat paid Zaslov a buttload of money to fuck over John Cena? No. Is it going to come out after reports of it being locked away for good/destroyed? Someone would've leaked it by now, so I'm saying no. I don't know if it'll even come out regardless of this movie's success. Would I still watch it should it by some miracle see the light of day? Only for a bad movie night, and even then, bribe me with treats first.

If 2D could make a comeback for the theater, I'd be happy. As it stands, I don't think we're getting a renaissance any time soon, not until the industry gets rebuilt from the ground-up.
 
Did Coyote v. deserve to get shelved because some asshat paid Zaslov a buttload of money to fuck over John Cena? No. Is it going to come out after reports of it being locked away for good/destroyed? Someone would've leaked it by now, so I'm saying no. I don't know if it'll even come out regardless of this movie's success. Would I still watch it should it by some miracle see the light of day? Only for a bad movie night, and even then, bribe me with treats first.

If 2D could make a comeback for the theater, I'd be happy. As it stands, I don't think we're getting a renaissance any time soon, not until the industry gets rebuilt from the ground-up.
That's gonna take a good decade or two, if we don't move on to something else.
 
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