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AnOminous said:
This style is just so repulsive I can't even imagine looking at it voluntarily.
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Sad thing is the animators deliberately designed the characters that way. And not for stylistic suck reasons or anything like that, it's so they couldn't be busted for making "cheese pizza." I know I'm not the first person to point that out, but damn if it still doesn't grind my gears all these years later. If you have to play fast and loose with the law like that maybe it's a sign you shouldn't be making this kinda thing in the first place.
 
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The only truly offensive thing about that new Scooby-Doo movie with Velma the lesbian is that the animation is done pretty well, better than the average Scooby Doo show, but the animators are still subordinate to nonstop Hollywood Cartoon Writer "comedy". They don't write jokes that people who think visually would make, it is the sort of "humor" that comes from writers banging away on keyboards trying to fill empty space with words because they have to reach a certain number of script pages.

Also I think the OC character is Latina (voiced by a white girl but whatever) it's just confusing because they recycled one of those stock black-nerd-girl designs that's kept on hand whenever cartoon writers need to cheat their way around writing black characters.
 
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Commander X said:
They don't write jokes that people who think visually would make, it is the sort of "humor" that comes from writers banging away on keyboards trying to fill empty space with words because they have to reach a certain number of script pages.
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I blame Joss Whedon for making speds like this think "clever" dialogue is the basis of comedy. To work first it needs to be actually clever, not pants-wetting millennial juvenilia, and second you need some kind of actual visually interesting backup for it, like say one of Aaron Sorkin's famous tracking shots while it's going on.

And Scooby-Doo has always been highly physical with chase scenes and slapstick and, in general, ACTION.
 
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AnOminous said:
I blame Joss Whedon for making speds like this think "clever" dialogue is the basis of comedy. To work first it needs to be actually clever, not pants-wetting millennial juvenilia, and second you need some kind of actual visually interesting backup for it, like say one of Aaron Sorkin's famous tracking shots while it's going on.

And Scooby-Doo has always been highly physical with chase scenes and slapstick and, in general, ACTION.
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nah
Whedon's problem was being incapable of being totally serious or meshing humor with serious scenes without outright forcing them. Which led to the problem we see today of jokes undermining scenes. The shitty dialogue is just a case of shitty dialogue.
 
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UnsufficentBoobage said:
You can tell someone high-level was banking on gay Velma, because if you google "Velma", it makes confetti and LGBT and some other flag shower (thanks tumblr for news).
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Well bite my biscuits you're right! I tried the same thing typing "Amity blight " didn't happen but look what "people also ask about her. " apparently;
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Commander X said:
The only truly offensive thing about that new Scooby-Doo movie with Velma the lesbian is that the animation is done pretty well, better than the average Scooby Doo show, but the animators are still subordinate to nonstop Hollywood Cartoon Writer "comedy". They don't write jokes that people who think visually would make, it is the sort of "humor" that comes from writers banging away on keyboards trying to fill empty space with words because they have to reach a certain number of script pages.
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Some guys commented on Youtube in various vlogs wondering why they choose Velma and not Daphne as a lesbian? :story:
 
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Super-Chevy454 said:
Some guys commented on Youtube in various vlogs wondering why they choose Velma and not Daphne as a lesbian? :story:
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because Daphne already showed to be yes queen slay potential.
Commander X said:
The only truly offensive thing about that new Scooby-Doo movie with Velma the lesbian is that the animation is done pretty well, better than the average Scooby Doo show, but the animators are still subordinate to nonstop Hollywood Cartoon Writer "comedy". They don't write jokes that people who think visually would make, it is the sort of "humor" that comes from writers banging away on keyboards trying to fill empty space with words because they have to reach a certain number of script pages.

Also I think the OC character is Latina (voiced by a white girl but whatever) it's just confusing because they recycled one of those stock black-nerd-girl designs that's kept on hand whenever cartoon writers need to cheat their way around writing black characters.
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to rub it in I have to thank sophia narwitz for this
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yes any time you type in google Velma this happens
 
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The Doodle seems to be only for Velma right now. I tried googling dory, Betty Deville, arcade gannon, Ida quagmire (got corrected to Davis on the last name) Herbert Garrison, and all of them gave nothing. Even though all but one of them are canonically gay, trans or even both.

So who knows, maybe this will die down once the buzz on lesbo Velma dies down, maybe they'll apply to every character who "comes out" aka gets retconned into being gay in the future.
 
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A Grey Cat said:
The Doodle seems to be only for Velma right now. I tried googling dory, Betty Deville, arcade gannon, Ida quagmire (got corrected to Davis on the last name) Herbert Garrison, and all of them gave nothing. Even though all but one of them are canonically gay, trans or even both.

So who knows, maybe this will die down once the buzz on lesbo Velma dies down, maybe they'll apply to every character who "comes out" aka gets retconned into being gay in the future.
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I think it's only because Velma's arguably the iconic lesbian in people's eyes. That and she's one of the oldest modern cartoon characters around, being created in 1969.
 
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Well you awful lot have made me us the horrifying over the last couple of pages so let's try something wholesome again. I actually found out about this last week but got distracted.

As has already been brought up a few times in the thread Mysterious Cities of Gold was a thing that released back in 1982. I'm not going to embed the intro for the dozenth time but it was an okay show with some interesting nuance in its plots for the age range, an okay soundtrack and some genuinely dark shit. It was a French/Japan project and a lot of the work was done by a little place known as Studio Pierrot. They're still going, muddling along with minor projects that most will never have heard of (this is sarcasm).

30 years later it got a sequel series. And yes, it was a sequel. The plot followed on from the original with the same storyline and characters. It was not great but it was good and the fact that someone greenlit a sequel show for people old enough to have children of their own of a similar age to when they watched it was kind of entertaining. The second season was followed by a third a few years later.

And now the 4th is confirmed. According to Wikipedia it premiered on RTS1 which is a television channel in Switzerland specifically targeting the French speakers of the country.

I do not know who was behind this show getting 3 more seasons after the original but I have to assume it's some insanely committed fan who dedicated 3 decades to getting into a position to arrange a continuation and has now put another 10 years of their career into getting to a finale.
 
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