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Daffy Duck and Porky Pig will save the world from alien invasion in a new movie directed and exec produced by Pete Browngardt (Looney Tunes Cartoons, Uncle Grandpa, Chowder). Alex Kirwan (Looney Tunes Cartoons) is supervising producer, and Sam Register (Teen Titans Go!) is exec producer.

Dammit WB!!!
really? uncle grandpa and tgg? people i know those shows aren't exactly the high mark of quality but compared to everything we've seen since 2016? Is it really that bad for a cartoon to be insipid and retarded as its biggest flaw? The crap being made today in some ways almost makes me long for the days of "two slack jawed idiots being jackasses" that was all the rage for a brief time.
 
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Israeli Netflix put the old Justice League cartoon up (with the original Hebrew dub). Haven't watched the show in two decades and it is still as good as I remembered from two decades ago, the first three episodes were fantastic and could work as a movie by their own.
There are a lot of good multi-episode arcs in the DCAU that make good little "movies" on their own. The initial arc in Superman TAS where Batman shows up for the first time, "World's Finest," actually was later released recut as a little movie called "The Batman Superman Movie."

As for the first few episodes, I absolutely agree, it was incredible. Usually, I don't like when they deviate heavily from the comics, but they gave Martian Manhunter such a cool backstory with the Imperium, I didn't even mind that they rewrote his whole origin. If anything, I wish they explored the Imperium more, it was a very cool cosmic horror villain.

Please stop projecting my post. I'm not going to correct it. I still stand by my high ground that the 2000s was the final good decade. Besides, 2000s was the one decade that Nick brought us gems such as Avatar TLA, Invader Zim, Jimmy Neutron and Fairly Oddparents (you know, during the same time CN was also hitting their stride with their shows during that decade), are you just gonna dismiss these because they're not "but muh 90s" shows?
You are absolutely right; the 2000s was when SpongeBob was at its height. And not to mention all the live-action classics of the era: Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, etc.
 
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Nickelodeon has been a large supporter of the Democrats for a long time now, have we all forgotten how much they inflated Obama when he was becoming president? (Tried to find the song as I swear there was one, but couldn’t) Not to mention Michelle’s guest appearances on shows like ICarly. They even had a BLM live stream for 2020 and it was said they rigged the kids pick the president because Donald won, they claimed tampering by 4Chan.


Please stop projecting my post. I'm not going to correct it. I still stand by my high ground that the 2000s was the final good decade. Besides, 2000s was the one decade that Nick brought us gems such as Avatar TLA, Invader Zim, Jimmy Neutron and Fairly Oddparents (you know, during the same time CN was also hitting their stride with their shows during that decade), are you just gonna dismiss these because they're not "but muh 90s" shows?
The time period between SpongeBob and Avatar was Nickelodeon’s strongest period. All of their biggest hits came from there with Fairly Odd Parents and Jimmy Neutron being heavy hitters while Danny Phantom, Invader Zim and My Life as a Teenage Robot became cult classics. In many ways the early 00s shows outlived most of the 90s with most being more obscure outside Rugrats, Ren & Stimpy and Hey Arnold.


Huh, this looks good...I mean it is not ba...

Daffy Duck and Porky Pig will save the world from alien invasion in a new movie directed and exec produced by Pete Browngardt (Looney Tunes Cartoons, Uncle Grandpa, Chowder). Alex Kirwan (Looney Tunes Cartoons) is supervising producer, and Sam Register (Teen Titans Go!) is exec producer.

Dammit WB!!!
They already made Looney Tunes cartoons where they went MeatCanyon brutal.
 
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Non-animation and non-TV people seriously need to get the fuck out of the industry. They have nothing interesting to say and just want to indoctrinate kids but don't have the talent to make it even slightly entertaining.
One of the biggest problems with the entertainment industry is that it’s filled with the wrong types of people nowadays. Especially in the kid show department.
 
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You are absolutely right; the 2000s was when SpongeBob was at its height. And not to mention all the live-action classics of the era: Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, etc.
iCarly will also be a masterpiece.
The time period between SpongeBob and Avatar was Nickelodeon’s strongest period. All of their biggest hits came from there with Fairly Odd Parents and Jimmy Neutron being heavy hitters while Danny Phantom, Invader Zim and My Life as a Teenage Robot became cult classics. In many ways the early 00s shows outlived most of the 90s with most being more obscure outside Rugrats, Ren & Stimpy and Hey Arnold.
And don't forget the live-action sitcoms such as (the one post I've quoted) Drake & Josh and such. I'd say the mid-to-late 2000s was overlooked and underappreciated. Nicktoons such as Back at the Barnyard, The Mighty B! and Catscratch (but it's a shame that the latter's original creator, Doug TenNaple, is such an NFT faggot and also a much boring version of Scott Adams), as well as original Nicktoons Network shows such as Kappa Mikey and Nicktoons Film Festival, were underrated gems that need more love these days.
Nickelodeon has been a large supporter of the Democrats for a long time now, have we all forgotten how much they inflated Obama when he was becoming president? (Tried to find the song as I swear there was one, but couldn’t) Not to mention Michelle’s guest appearances on shows like ICarly. They even had a BLM live stream for 2020 and it was said they rigged the kids pick the president because Donald won, they claimed tampering by 4Chan.
Sure, I'll remember when Nick did a few US presidential bumpers back in 2004, but back then they never came across as biased. Except just over a decade later, Viacom (now simply known as Paramount) made more political sperging then they can ever chew, lest we forget the summer of love 2020 when the St. Floyd rioters were destroying the nation, and so the networks owned by Paramount partook in Blackout Tuesday. Also, the virtue signaling keeps on going as Nick used their LGBT bullshit for their content.
One of the biggest problems with the entertainment industry is that it’s filled with the wrong types of people nowadays. Especially in the kid show department.
It's less about creativity and more about nepotism.
 
Agreed.

Current showrunners like Dana Terrace aren’t creative or talented and they have the imagination of teenage fanfic writers.

The only way they get into the industry is through nepotism.
If modern day showrunners for animated shows are creative, then they would've come up with something original and less of fanfic writing. Unfortunately because the media industry is lactose towards the idea of originality.
 
And don't forget the live-action sitcoms such as (the one post I've quoted) Drake & Josh and such.
Generally speaking, I take Victorious as the last good Nick sitcom. The show was Dan at his most unhinged for better and worse in many circumstances.

I'd say the mid-to-late 2000s was overlooked and underappreciated. Nicktoons such as Back at the Barnyard, The Mighty B! and Catscratch (but it's a shame that the latter's original creator, Doug TenNaple, is such an NFT faggot and also a much boring version of Scott Adams), as well as original Nicktoons Network shows such as Kappa Mikey and Nicktoons Film Festival, were underrated gems that need more love these days.
The late 00s had its highlights, mainly Kappa Mikey, El Tigre, Making Fiends and Catscratch, but it was also a pretty obvious downfall as the mentioned were dead before even airing.

It's less about creativity and more about nepotism.
It is that plus black rock and government incentives to hire minority voices (not white male). There is probably also “special favors” being done.
 
How is it I keep running into danna "I'm still seething about my lousy hs prom." Terrance every couple of pages on here?
I don't blame you for sure. Dana Terance cannot tell a story to save her precious soul, and I feel like she needs to have her own lolcow thread at some point.
Generally speaking, I take Victorious as the last good Nick sitcom. The show was Dan at his most unhinged for better and worse in many circumstances.
Yea, I'm very surprised to find out that Victorious had some surprisingly good moments.
The late 00s had its highlights, mainly Kappa Mikey, El Tigre, Making Fiends and Catscratch, but it was also a pretty obvious downfall as the mentioned were dead before even airing.
Which is also why SpongeBob has taken the majority of the network. It's not just Nick's popular show, but it's literally Paramount's own version of either Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Scooby-Doo, Spiderman, Mario or Simpsons. The company wants to milk it for years on end. During this era, a lot Nicktoons such as Barnyard, Kappa Mikey, FB&CC, Catscratch, Mighty B, etc. were fucked over by the yellow sponge.
It is that plus black rock and government incentives to hire minority voices (not white male). There is probably also “special favors” being done.
It's sad yet unsurprising that by 2012 or so, companies need to collect BlackRock money in order to chase trends and virtue signal about "caring about sex, gender, race, religion, etc." when they're the ones ruining society as a whole.
The only real Golden Age of Animation was the '20s to the '50s.
I'm more of a sucker for more underrated studios during those eras, basically stuff from the likes of Terrytoons, UPA, Screen Gems, Noveltoons, Harveytoons, Famous and Walter Lantz. But yes, Warner and MGM were among the best for sure.
 
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Which is also why SpongeBob has taken the majority of the network. It's not just Nick's popular show, but it's literally Paramount's own version of either Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Scooby-Doo, Spiderman, Mario or Simpsons. The company wants to milk it for years on end. During this era, a lot Nicktoons such as Barnyard, Kappa Mikey, FB&CC, Catscratch, Mighty B, etc. were fucked over by the yellow sponge.
One of the most interesting things to learn about SpongeBob is that the show is only Nick's 4th highest grossing IP, third if we leave out acquired brands. Both Paw Patrol and Dora beat the Sponge, along with TMNT.

Getting back to the point, you are right, the entire NickToons brand got diluted post-Avatar as SpongeBob's popularity made Nick hostile towards competition within their ranks. It is crazy to think Nick would just kill their brand in such a way as the 00s had a mix of shows that were all mega-hits alongside SpongeBob. Meanwhile, Paw Patrol really showed the potential misses in revenue they could have gotten had they not killed off so much.

Yea, I'm very surprised to find out that Victorious had some surprisingly good moments.
The show would have benefitted more than any others from being an adult comedy. Dan pushed the envelope with Victorious and it is a show I wish I watched more of as a kid. It can be a great watch, even to just ask how any of this got made. The talent they got for this show was stellar.
 
I don't blame you for sure. Dana Terance cannot tell a story to save her precious soul, and I feel like she needs to have her own lolcow thread at some point.
Hate the creator love the creation I guess...or the base concept and characters (and the first dozen eps as it were) which brings me to my next point for
First I've heard of this bit. What happened with her prom?
Apparently Dana was seething so much about how lousy her hs prom nay her whole adolescence was that she wrote episodes of owl house like the prom one (where it was revealed that amity blythe was a lezbo and luz was bi) as a means of compensating for it. It's why I swear by my eye teeth after owl house got popular and started bringing in views Dana basically turned the show into her wish fulfillment fantasy. The characters became dolls in a dollhouse that she shipped and paired up all while pretending to be one of them.

A problem with a lot of hacks working in western animation really. I know it's poor form to quote/agree with a lolcow but mr enter was right in saying "no one wants to remember their hs years, even if they look back on them fondly." And yet here we are year after year of hacks turning their old composition notebooks and journals into cartoons all because they can't move on from what should be one of the most insignificant times in someone's life.
 
Hate the creator love the creation I guess...or the base concept and characters (and the first dozen eps as it were)
Sometimes, you gotta separate the art from the artist. She is great at drawing, but she is a shitty storyteller and, as seen in interviews and stuff, is seen as a complete bitch
One of the most interesting things to learn about SpongeBob is that the show is only Nick's 4th highest grossing IP, third if we leave out acquired brands. Both Paw Patrol and Dora beat the Sponge, along with TMNT.

Getting back to the point, you are right, the entire NickToons brand got diluted post-Avatar as SpongeBob's popularity made Nick hostile towards competition within their ranks. It is crazy to think Nick would just kill their brand in such a way as the 00s had a mix of shows that were all mega-hits alongside SpongeBob. Meanwhile, Paw Patrol really showed the potential misses in revenue they could have gotten had they not killed off so much.
Shows like Back at the Barnyard, The Mighty B, Fanboy & Chum Chum, TUFF Puppy and a DreamWorks IP known as Penguins of Madagascar were pretty popular, but aren't among the same level as popularity as SpongeBob or even Fairly Oddparents and TMNT. Nick cares less about artistic integrity and more about business practices, and this is saying a lot with other big name industries.
 
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