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Commander X said:
Jellystone is returning, I suppose for 60-year old 12-year olds and maybe 30ish people who grew up on HB reruns.

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Disgusting, this amateurish vomit is produced by "professionals", this looks worse than the sort of really low-budget "modern" cartoons that would end up on DVD and VHS in dollar store bargain bins.

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Say what you will about vintage HB, shows like the Flintstones, YB, etc. would have more funny images in a 25-second stretch than most modern sameface animated sitcoms shows have in an entire season. "Yo Yogi" looks like a triumph of master animators reveling in the potential of the medium in comparison to this.

There have been animators who've shown you could animate classic-style HB and make it work but the Industry cliques don't want them so the only things these people get to work on are stuff like now years-old commercials for predatory lenders.

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Sad, I can't help thinking a decade from now we'll be reading comments from a generation that says Jellystone was THE best show they ever saw, without ever seeing the originals...
 
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PS1gamenwatch said:
But people from the generations before said Hanna Barbera was a joke and that all their cartoons are ripoffs with no creativity whatsoever
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I'd say even Hanna-Barbera were well aware of the fact that their cartoons were completely unoriginal and cheap. Their studio throughout the 1960s-70s were the Illumination of that time.
 
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Trilby said:
Sad, I can't help thinking a decade from now we'll be reading comments from a generation that says Jellystone was THE best show they ever saw, without ever seeing the originals...
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Have you seen any of those old HB cartoons? Half of them are fucking boring as hell by todays standard. They sucked ass, take it from someone who was forced to watch that Boomerang channel because nothing good was on in the 2000s.

Jellystone breaths new life and witty humor into these old characters with an amount of respect. That’s more than can be said for other western media that’s just there to insult and shit on fans.
 
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madethistocomment said:
Ah, I see this episode was storyboarded by Rebecca Sugar.
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It's so over...​

Jokes aside, some of the Frederator designs that I borrowed were from Tumblr, so I guess a lot of Tumblrinas used Sugar's storyboards due to its more I guess, lively approach, due to more curves and expression?

madethistocomment said:
In all seriousness, that's really good! You've got the style down and I like the FNV setting.
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:feels: again! I found it funny when I draw CalArts-style stuff in the most politically incorrect environments like the Legion and Joshua Graham. It's similar to what /pol/ did to corporate art (Globohomo/Alegria/Corporate Memphis) to mock its lifelessness and message (not implying Adventure Time is in anyway lifeless, but I've only watched two episodes).

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C.H. Greenblatt
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I am 100% certain he is one of the last good people in the industry.
 
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Basic Blond Boy said:
Weirdly, I think things are more censored now. Other than LGBT+ content, violence has been significantly pushed back on, no death and no guns . They also don't seem to allow talk of religion to any degree these days or really any adult concept that isn't BLM/LGBT. Sometimes the censorship is so clamped down that the libs writing these shows are destroying their own beliefs to not offend, with the recent Avatar live action removing Saka's sexism being a good example.
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I remember watching an old Looney Tunes episode as a kid and seeing a part where a frog sitting on a lily pad pulls out a revolver and points it at his head. You don't see anything because the camera pans away but you hear the gunshot and we laughed like idiots. I find it hard to believe that you could air that on television today but back then it was considered alright to show to children.
 
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Operation Mincemeat said:
I remember watching an old Looney Tunes episode as a kid and seeing a part where a frog sitting on a lily pad pulls out a revolver and points it at his head. You don't see anything because the camera pans away but you hear the gunshot and we laughed like idiots. I find it hard to believe that you could air that on television today but back then it was considered alright to show to children.
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The whole point of classic cartoons from Disney, WB, MGM, Fleischer/Famous, Walter Lantz, Terrytoons, etc. were not to be realistic. These are works of fiction, the same with with other fictional characters afterwards from the 60s to 2000s (such as SpongeBob, Ninja Turtles, Goku, Spiderman, Mario, Homer Simpson, etc.).
 
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TVB said:
The whole point of classic cartoons from Disney, WB, MGM, Fleischer/Famous, Walter Lantz, Terrytoons, etc. were not to be realistic. These are works of fiction, the same with with other fictional characters afterwards from the 60s to 2000s (such as SpongeBob, Ninja Turtles, Goku, Spiderman, Mario, Homer Simpson, etc.).
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We sorta lost this notion in recent years. Everything has to be based in reality.
 
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TVB said:
The whole point of classic cartoons from Disney, WB, MGM, Fleischer/Famous, Walter Lantz, Terrytoons, etc. were not to be realistic. These are works of fiction, the same with with other fictional characters afterwards from the 60s to 2000s (such as SpongeBob, Ninja Turtles, Goku, Spiderman, Mario, Homer Simpson, etc.).
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I think the real issue is that these modern cartoons are supposed to be realistic but they only adhere to the strange twisted version of reality in the creator's head.
Then again - that's made for some great works in the past...
 
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Coolio55 said:
I think the real issue is that these modern cartoons are supposed to be realistic but they only adhere to the strange twisted version of reality in the creator's head.
Then again - that's made for some great works in the past...
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Auteur-driven escapist media is fine every now and then imo, but it needs a bit of crunch to it to be palatable to people outside that particular bubble.
 
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Coolio55 said:
I think the real issue is that these modern cartoons are supposed to be realistic but they only adhere to the strange twisted version of reality in the creator's head.
Then again - that's made for some great works in the past...
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It's all about nepotism. Purely simple. That, and everyone working in the modern media 2010s onward are having difficulty of separating fantasy from reality to the point that they end up making up fake problems so that audiences would believe that they are real
 
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