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[Croak & Caw]

Is there a name for putting your own politics in a already known and made show/movie

Depending on details, "propaganda" could fit. I like the general term "faggotry" though.

 

[Coolio55]

Two new trailers released today:
Disney's Zootopia 2

I'm assuming that TVTropes isn't going to add a "Harsher in Hindsight" listing for the first movie in light of the Casey Report.

I don't think that Zootopia 2 is going to be a good movie but hopefully the rumored French goat officers are stylish because I want some stylish french goats.
There's already one confirmed cute goat in the Zootopia universe:

https://zootopia.fandom.com/wiki/Goat_lady

 

[Trilby]

I'm assuming that TVTropes isn't going to add a "Harsher in Hindsight" listing for the first movie in light of the Casey Report.

I don't think that Zootopia 2 is going to be a good movie but hopefully the rumored French goat officers are stylish because I want some stylish french goats.
There's already one confirmed cute goat in the Zootopia universe:

https://zootopia.fandom.com/wiki/Goat_lady

She's from this...

 

[Chromeo]

I don't think that Zootopia 2 is going to be a good movie

I go into every sequel expecting it to be soulless cashgrab slop, so if/when it's garbage I'm not disappointed.

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Even if they fall in love in the movie, there's NO way Disney would make Judy pregnant, or make some kind of fox-rabbit hybrid. That kind of thing happens in furry webcomics like Kevin and Kell, but I don't think Disney would ever go that far. They're aware of the furry fandom (it's part of how they marketed the first Zootopia,) so I'm sure there was at least one intern like "PLEASE GOD DON'T MAKE JUDY HOPPS PREGNANT!! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!"
These are my guesses for what happens in Zootopia 2 with Nick and Judy, ranked from most to least likely:

1. Nick and Judy don't become a romantic couple, it's just lampshaded/joked about like in the trailer.
2. Nick and Judy become a couple, but only at the end of the movie so they can end on a high note with a kiss and everyone clapped.
3. Nick and Judy became a couple off-screen between the movies, separate in the second act for dramatic effect, then reunite in the third act.
4. Nick and Judy are shown in some kind of flash-forward or dream sequence where they have a bunny daughter and fox son who look like they just cloned their younger selves, maybe with different haircuts. Bonus points if the fox is the daughter and the bunny is the son, or if the whole scene is some kind of fakeout.
5. The same as #4, but their child/children are super obviously adopted and probably POC-coded (like a goat or a sheep with black/brown wool and a black girl hairstyle or something.)

Spoiler: sperging about hybrid furries

For what it's worth, I think it's a little weird when people give non-human characters hybrid kids, not because "hurr durr those animals can't breed irl," but because there's always this weird escalation where one generation had 0 hybrids, then the next one has like 80-90% hybrids because that's the most interesting to the audience/author. It goes from no race mixing to ALL race mixing, which is just unrealistic. Even if nobody's racist, it's just statistics that people tend to stick to their in-group.
Even still, how would mixed species offspring even function? The first generation might be okay depending on how much being an animal influences the individuals and what types of species-mixing are "allowed" in-universe. A bird and a horse could have a pegasus, sure, or they could have a horse with hollow bones who's too weak to hold up his heavy body and is bedridden his whole life. Predator/Prey couples like Nick and Judy would have offspring who are technically omnivores, but do they have omnivore stomachs? Even if you restrict the species mixing to the same taxonomic order (predator mammals, let's say,) the problem then comes from generations of inter-mixing. If a catdog has a baby with a weaselskunk, what does the catdogweaselskunk look like? If that breeds with a wolftigercoyotebear, what does the catdogweaselskunkwolftigercoyotebear look like? How many generations before most people are some kind of chimera with so many animals in their family tree they don't display ANY of the specific traits of their ancestors?
Then what happens when a world full of catdogweaselskunkwolftigercoyotebears meets a rabbit? Just a straight-up, normal, purebred rabbit? And what would that imply to the audience????
It'd be interesting, but it's so autistic and potentially racist nobody would ever explore it.

 

[Colon capital V]

pregnant

That reminds me, wasn't there a furry orgy sex party when the first movie dropped or was that a hoax? I fear to think what current year furries are capable of when this drops.

 

[Colon capital V]

New Spunkbop game

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Even if they fall in love in the movie, there's NO way Disney would make Judy pregnant, or make some kind of fox-rabbit hybrid. That kind of thing happens in furry webcomics like Kevin and Kell, but I don't think Disney would ever go that far. They're aware of the furry fandom (it's part of how they marketed the first Zootopia,) so I'm sure there was at least one intern like "PLEASE GOD DON'T MAKE JUDY HOPPS PREGNANT!! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!"
These are my guesses for what happens in Zootopia 2 with Nick and Judy, ranked from most to least likely:

You forgot option #6:

 

[ChristianKiwi]

As expected (even though it makes no sense story wise), IGN is reporting secondhand from The Wrap that Netflix has plans to expand the K-Pop Demon Hunters universe with plans including, but not limited to a live-action remake, stage musical, and sequels. Take it with a grain of salt though.

Link to the IGN Article

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Spoiler: IGN Article Text

Netflix is reportedly going all-in on the KPop Demon Hunters universe with plans for a live-action remake, stage musical, sequels, and more.



Details on how the streaming giant plans to expand its bubbly animated world come from The Wrap, which says fans can expect so much more from the hit-making Huntr/x trio in the future. Although nothing is set in stone for now, it appears Netflix is already referring to KPop Demon Hunters as its very own “Frozen” or Disney Princess-level franchise.





A live-action remake is par for the course for the streaming giant, which has already explored similar projects for animated classics like Avatar: The Last Airbender, One Piece, and Cowboy Bebop. A stage musical adaptation, however, isn’t quite as common and could see the fictional KPop group’s choreography bring hits like Golden, What It Sounds Like, and Takedown to the real-world stage.

These are just a few of the avenues Netflix is reportedly exploring, with other potential projects being two animated sequels to round out what would become a KPop Demon Hunters trilogy. The Wrap’s sources also say the streamer is interested in a series spinoff, as well as a short film that could serve as “bridge content” while viewers wait for some of the more ambitious projects. Anyway you cut it, Netflix is far from done with KPop Demon Hunters.

The animated musical fantasy KPop infusion premiered on Netflix in June and danced its way into mainstream conversation in just days. Aside from the critical praise it received (we gave it an 8/10), fans latched onto the Sony Pictures Animation movie’s musical and fantasy elements with memes, cosplay, fancams, and more online. Huntr/x’s Rumi, Mira, and Zoey have since been propelled to the top of Netflix streaming charts, securing their place as animated KPop stars in what has become the company’s most popular animated film of all time.



Warning! Spoilers for KPop Demon Hunters follow.


A live-action KPop Demon hunters movie will have quite the mountain to climb if it hopes to mimic the lightning-fast style fans love the original for, but all of Netflix’s other potential follow-up projects will face their own challenges, too.

The original film puts a bow on its story after the rival Saja Boys meet their demise and Huntr/x reclaims its spot in the limelight. With more time for couch and with Rumi’s demonic secret revealed, there are a few loose ends for a KPop Demon Hunters series or sequels to tie up. However, the film’s closing moments do show that the trio’s derpy tiger and the hat-wearing magpie are keeping close, and of course, there’s always the chance another demon uprising could occur.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

You forgot option #6:
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Little Bunny JFK got killed by Bunny Lyndon Johnson and the CIA.....

 

[Trollblade69]

Little Bunny JFK got killed by Bunny Lyndon Johnson and the CIA.....

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[Hamsteroid]

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Trevor Moore: High in Church - "Kitty History"

 

[Trilby]

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Too often YT forces this crap on restricting where videos can be embedded and make you click out to another app.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Kpop Demon Hunters makes me cringe. I fucking hate this film. Idk why exactly, but here are some reasons I came up with:

-Quirky anime faces! Omg so random! You like anime, don't you? Look, just like anime!1! Anime is popular, get it??


-Silly animal, haha, so funny! Quick, make a meme on FaceBook about it. Pupils pointing at opposite directions are dumb and funny, very funny, get it? We have to have an animal sidekick to sell toys. (I do appreciate the Korean Tigers reference, but I don't like the way this specific character is depicted and used).


-I just feel some kind of primal anger looking at these guys. It's probably due to social hypocrisy. If you're a man, who DARES to be into pretty looking women and depict them in media you're a sexist/racist/whatever, but it's completely acceptable to depict men who are literally 100% female fantasy. Man don't look like that. And I wouldn't have a problem with it (cringe, but it's common for people of both sexes, especially young, to idealize their potential partner) if people weren't such fucking hypocrites. You look at these guys and you just know they were made by a woman.

These characters are just pure unrealistic expectations. What kind of a straight guy is going to willingly have pink long hair, unless he's told by a producer?

Imagine if these were hour-glass tradwives. What do you thing would the media say?



I hate the songs. Lots and lots of autotune. Though that's how pop music is in general, Korean or not.

-The plot. It's just not great. Pretty standard "I'm a creature and have to hide it" + "Musical battle". Why the hell do people speak of it like it's the Third Coming of Christ? Is animation that dead?

-Speaking of animation, I like the colors and character designs (aside from pussyfication of the male characters). But I'm really tiered of "drop framerate" style of animation at that point. We got it, animated Spiderman was popular, ok. The jittery motion is really tiring sometimes.

-Also, this film is fucking everywhere now. Every single slop youtuber is talking about "how revolutionary it is", while it's literally a regular ass kid film with cringy decisions.

The style and the idol aspect reminds me a lot of Turning Red, which I also fucking hate. Bonus hate point.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

this film is fucking everywhere now. Every single slop youtuber is talking about "how revolutionary it is", while it's literally a regular ass kid film with cringy decisions.

If I had to guess why you hate it, this is why.

 

[Commander X]

The wacky faces look forced, everything about it looks forced. Sony Animation makes one film that is kind of, sort of a success that isn’t part of the Spiderverse and Netflix is already trying to oversaturate it’s existence. Complete with the idea for a utterly needless "live action" remake - because to many Hollywood executives, writers and other people in the industry cartoons are viewed as stuff made for babies and not an actual art form. One can only hope they overdo it with expanding the Kpop Demon Hunters franchise in a way where they try to roll out too much material and the oversaturation ends up stamping out further interest.

It's an aggressively bland movie, but you have Animation! Is! Cinema! types falling over themselves to tongue-baste it.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

The wacky faces look forced, everything about it looks forced. Sony Animation makes one film that is kind of, sort of a success that isn’t part of the Spiderverse and Netflix is already trying to oversaturate it’s existence. Complete with the idea for a utterly needless "live action" remake - because to many Hollywood executives, writers and other people in the industry cartoons are viewed as stuff made for babies and not an actual art form. One can only hope they overdo it with expanding the Kpop Demon Hunters franchise in a way where they try to roll out too much material and the oversaturation ends up stamping out further interest.

It's an aggressively bland movie, but you have Animation! Is! Cinema! types falling over themselves to tongue-baste it.

Man it sucks. We could have a newer movie in the vain of Heavy metal or at least something that dosen't cater to families and instead tries to break the mold western cartoons has stuffed itself in, these are cartoons for families and man children, these are cartoons for drug addicts and retards(that are in the 18 to 35 demo)

 

[Newcomer 42]

As mediocre KPop may be, the other western animation works are much worse, this is why it stands out. Also, no pozz, no blacks anywhere, for one, or hideously ugly women.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

Pupils pointing at opposite directions are dumb and funny, very funny, get it? We have to have an animal sidekick to sell toys. (I do appreciate the Korean Tigers reference, but I don't like the way this specific character is depicted and used).

I get what you are saying, but a lot of the old Asian art featuring tigers looks very goofy to modern sensibilities.

 

[NoCockatrice]

I get what you are saying, but a lot of the old Asian art featuring tigers looks very goofy to modern sensibilities. View attachment 7726162View attachment 7726163View attachment 7726164

I understand. I love old Asian tigers depictions (other animals too): they look kinda alien and goofy, but you can also sense the creature's might.

The creature in the movie though acts like it was made specifically to be a goofy sidekick and sell toys. They even gave him a giant funkopop head.

 

[Trollblade69]

LOL Rekt