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As bad as American animation has gotten now, you can't forget how restrictive everything was in American cartoons of the 1970s and '80s. Networks even banished wild takes, as you can see in this memo from 1978. Fun and wackiness in our cartoons? Not on our watch, people!

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Transformers must have been a blessing to those people.
"In this episode, Optimus Prime is going to get literally blown apart. That cool with you guys?"
"Wellll.... we're gonna need to see his arm holding a gun mounted to a rooftop aerial and his torso turned into a fucking crocodile."
"Done!"
 
Transformers must have been a blessing to those people.
"In this episode, Optimus Prime is going to get literally blown apart. That cool with you guys?"
"Wellll.... we're gonna need to see his arm holding a gun mounted to a rooftop aerial and his torso turned into a fucking crocodile."
"Done!"
I guess we could call this a bright spot, even though we now outsourced that overseas. It was still a dead period but we had a few bright spots.

Here's some tutorials of how they once did it..
 
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I rewatched batman ninja out of curiosity with the debacle going on with Aztec batman. Why does ninja work where Aztec looks like it's doomed to failure?


Well for one they didn't change batman into an actual Japanese prince or son of a nobleman who's parents are killed prompting a cliche samurai/ninja revenge plot. Not it's classic billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne in the iconic batman suit. Sure HOW he and his rouges (and gorilla grodd for some reason) end up in feudal Japan is kinda contrived and forced but it's passable for a silly comic book plot.


Next despite sending batman and his mythos to feudal Japan there's no preachy, pretentious forced writing about how awesome and great Japan was before the evil white men tried to colonize it. The retell the feudal wars fought in Japan's Sengoku period like they were just with the addition of giant steam punk towers outta howls moving castle amd batman having an army of ninja batman at his command.

As I said before it's stupid yes...but it kinda knows it's stupid. Or it knows it's a silly concept "batman time warped to ancient japan" so it just rolls with it and embraces how off the walls crazy the idea is.


Aztec batman doesn't seem to be going that route. It's just a bunch of millienal beaners who probably unironically use Latinx, bitching and whining about how badly the Aztecs were treated by evil white Christian Spanish conquistadors wearing batman's skin like...well funny enough an Aztec sacrifice.
 
speaking of Warner Bros., been on a classic Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies spree recently, inspired by this book:
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all the advances in animation since 1938.....

and yet in both animation and vocal work, this almost 90 year old cartoon is leagues above 90% of the slop released today.
 
speaking of Warner Bros., been on a classic Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies spree recently, inspired by this book:
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all the advances in animation since 1938.....
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and yet in both animation and vocal work, this almost 90 year old cartoon is leagues above 90% of the slop released today.
The quality had to be good because it cost so much time, effort and money to make. Now, you can pop out some animated slideshow for almost no money, very little effort, and only a few months of time.
 
The quality had to be good because it cost so much time, effort and money to make. Now, you can pop out some animated slideshow for almost no money, very little effort, and only a few months of time.
It's a shame. We really did have something special when only a few did this for the time it too to make it work when it did.
 
The quality had to be good because it cost so much time, effort and money to make. Now, you can pop out some animated slideshow for almost no money, very little effort, and only a few months of time.
Also, Looney Tunes Shorts were shown before movies in theatres back in the day. So, higher quality was generally expected to please the waiting movie goers.
 
Watched kpop demon hunters.
  • Creative and mostly funny in a way I enjoyed
    • Mainly I enjoyed all of the visual gags and the little comedic details. I'm convinced whoever was animating the abs boy band guy had a fetish but it translated into comedy well.
  • Liked the animation a fair bit.
  • a bit adhd especially with the faces and jumping from joke to joke at hyper speed at the start of the movie but that didn't ruin the movie for me
  • music's a low point for me mainly because kpop(literally never heard any kpop before this movie), rap and just regular autotuned pop is just not my taste
  • the story's a bit melodramatic and "standard" for its own good but if it works it works.
I liked it overall, 8/10.
 
Shit was up there with Angela Anaconda for "ugliest shit on television", immediate change-the-channel material.
Can't forget that one anon whose parents divorced because he cried about it at the movies.

I hate it when media takes a favorable look on casual child abuse. I've seen clips where kids are scolded by cops for calling 911 after being beaten by a parent, where people are discouraged from comforting crying babies so they can "cry it out," and most recently a clip where the child protagonist is treated like shit at home and moves out and the whole family gaslights him and the lesson is that "you shouldn't try to grow up too fast" and nobody learns a lesson except the kid, who was a victim.

Double posting but the current example is Horrid Henry where it's obvious there's abuse happening.
 
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Watched kpop demon hunters.

I liked it overall, 8/10.
Ten years ago, nobody would have given a shit about this movie. It’s just that everyone’s exhausted from a decade of “witty subversion,” politically correct boss bitches what don’t need no bumbling men, and stories that exist to push narratives that are openly destructive to a society. A very barebones, anemic, by-the-numbers story of friendship, acceptance, and the power of love so mundane you could confuse it with Titan A.E. or Meet the Robinsons is such a breath of fresh air that people are losing their minds.
 
This has probably been discussed in the ATLA/Korra thread before, but eh. I keep seeing this take pop up from time to time.
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Jokes on then because the fire nation invasion is very obviously based on what Japan did to the rest of Asia. It made what happened in Europe look downright mild. I remember accounts of literal Nazis trying to stop what happened in Nan King (not that they can process that there was nuances even in that group).
 
Ten years ago, nobody would have given a shit about this movie. It’s just that everyone’s exhausted from a decade of “witty subversion,” politically correct boss bitches what don’t need no bumbling men, and stories that exist to push narratives that are openly destructive to a society. A very barebones, anemic, by-the-numbers story of friendship, acceptance, and the power of love so mundane you could confuse it with Titan A.E. or Meet the Robinsons is such a breath of fresh air that people are losing their minds.
No, we've just had dick-all for cartoons worth watching the last few years that we've been forced to see what people who speak languages other than English are putting out.
 
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Ten years ago, nobody would have given a shit about this movie. It’s just that everyone’s exhausted from a decade of “witty subversion,” politically correct boss bitches what don’t need no bumbling men, and stories that exist to push narratives that are openly destructive to a society. A very barebones, anemic, by-the-numbers story of friendship, acceptance, and the power of love so mundane you could confuse it with Titan A.E. or Meet the Robinsons is such a breath of fresh air that people are losing their minds.
Genuinely feel the same way about the KOTH reboot. Its nowhere near what KOTH was in terms of writing and general quality, but people are just so exhausted of everything being shit that something mediocre makes them feel like its way better than it is.
 
Nigga forget the AI voices, this shit is getting the Disney Remake treatment of stripping the cultural references behind African voodoo stuff and making it "more appropriate". Literal current year revision shit for an okay 3D platformer collectathon.
Oh noez muh heckin pee-oh-see erasure!
Also, Looney Tunes Shorts were shown before movies in theatres back in the day. So, higher quality was generally expected to please the waiting movie goers.
Also they weren't solely aimed at children, although by the time of Looney Tunes they were further in that direction. The Fleischer Brothers stuff had some genuinely dark and disturbing content.
 
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