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How would you guys rewrite Steven universe and other tumblr shows
Get rid of the filler instead of trying to stretch it out for like six years, and focus more on the aliens and the wider universe instead of dicking around beach city. I honestly didn't hate SU, I think the premise was fine, I just thought it was boring.
 
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In The Bad Guys the scene is played as a joke because
  1. Snake is a snake and snakes swallow things whole (he does so several times in the movie) and
  2. the rest of the crew is weirded out / disgusted by it.
Also this scene wasn't preceded by years of every existing media outlet pushing vore on children. So yes, in this case, the quick kiss of two side characters is more harmful than a snake deepthroating the face of his love-interest because the latter isn't part of a larger grooming campaign push for tolerance as far as we know
 
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Regardless of how anyone feels about Lightyear and whether or not it should have had lesbians in it, it's very disingenuous how people discuss it. It's always "a kiss", when in the movie it's very clearly given more spotlight than that. She gets engaged and says she wouldn't have met "her" if not for plot crap, they have a kid and one of them is pregnant so it's not adoption.

It is not just a kiss and if they think it's so great they should be willing to embrace that.
 
I'll give you Steven and Adventure Time.

In the case of Steven, cut back on the Beach City and Farm episodes, they were massive pace breakers that ultimately took away from the show as Beach City doesn't even matter in the final. An entire season should be dedicated to Home World and building up White Diamond. The series as is absolutely rushed this critical plotline and its conclusion. Give White Diamond more of a reason to be the way she is. She is clearly a perfectionist completely absorbed in her need to advance gem kind, play around with that and make the audience more sympathetic to her cause to justify the redemption.
Get rid of the filler instead of trying to stretch it out for like six years, and focus more on the aliens and the wider universe instead of dicking around beach city. I honestly didn't hate SU, I think the premise was fine, I just thought it was boring.
Pacing issues, for me. I also don't think the boarder driven nature of the art benefited it at all, but beyond the most egregious examples you can easily find online I don't really mind if it's not always consistent.
 
I just heard about this, but Canadian animation studio Nelvana is about to shut down. They're currently producing All Engines Go, so it's speculated that All Engines Go (and possibly with it, the Thomas toyline in general) will be cancelled. They're also making the new Barney show, so that could be cancelled as well.
It hasn't officially been confirmed but it seems Nelvana shut down for good this past Friday, August 29th, 2025.


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I blame snoop Dogg for this. What prompted that old darkie stoner to go and complain about taking his grandkids to see lightyear in 2025? Why wait years after its release to complain about the dyke kiss only to immediately cower and grovel for an apology after they called him out for it?
 
How would you guys rewrite Steven universe and other tumblr shows
I don't fuckin know how I'd rewrite 5 seasons of this, I just know I'd have Peridot rebuild her limb enhancers, since without them, her design got downgraded into a 2 inch goblin that was shorter than Steven, and just hung out with her blue roommate since she couldn't really fight without them, and I'd ditch Beach City because it had TONS of episodes revolving around it and not one of them made the place seem interesting when they were sandwiched in between episodes of Steven going on gem adventures, or being part of a murder trial in deep space or something.
 
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How would you guys rewrite Steven universe and other tumblr shows
I loved/still love Steven Universe, even with its faults, and if I had a chance to rewrite it I'd carry more of the monster-of-the-week battles into the later seasons (so it doesn't feel like a bait and switch,) have them go back and forth to Homeworld towards the end like Rebecca wanted before CN cancelled the show and gave them like 7 episodes to wrap up everything, and at the very end, you NEED Beach City and the residents to matter. You spend all the filler episodes getting to know these humans, give them a reason to have had all that time. Steven cares because he cares about everyone; he's half human, beach city is his human home while Homeworld is technically his gem home. If the final battle was brought to Earth somehow, and the Beach City residents actually came together and did SOMETHING, even if it was ultimately small, that'd matter so much. Have everyone sing the theme song as they go into battle, like in the pilot/flashback SDCC music video thing. Have that human connection MATTER!!

I also, personally, just don't like Lapis very much. She's so morose and antisocial, and I get she's gone through a lot but every fucking gem has gone through a lot. She doesn't need to be transformed into a genki girl, but if she could just not be such a sulk in literally every appearance...idk. And yeah, her night palette WAS better than the "main" palette she kept. Looked more like actual lapis lazuli. (also ffs I'd fix the pronunciation of Lazuli and Peridot, I hate how the show says them.)
 
I loved/still love Steven Universe, even with its faults, and if I had a chance to rewrite it I'd carry more of the monster-of-the-week battles into the later seasons (so it doesn't feel like a bait and switch,) have them go back and forth to Homeworld towards the end like Rebecca wanted before CN cancelled the show and gave them like 7 episodes to wrap up everything, and at the very end, you NEED Beach City and the residents to matter. You spend all the filler episodes getting to know these humans, give them a reason to have had all that time. Steven cares because he cares about everyone; he's half human, beach city is his human home while Homeworld is technically his gem home. If the final battle was brought to Earth somehow, and the Beach City residents actually came together and did SOMETHING, even if it was ultimately small, that'd matter so much. Have everyone sing the theme song as they go into battle, like in the pilot/flashback SDCC music video thing. Have that human connection MATTER!!

I also, personally, just don't like Lapis very much. She's so morose and antisocial, and I get she's gone through a lot but every fucking gem has gone through a lot. She doesn't need to be transformed into a genki girl, but if she could just not be such a sulk in literally every appearance...idk. And yeah, her night palette WAS better than the "main" palette she kept. Looked more like actual lapis lazuli. (also ffs I'd fix the pronunciation of Lazuli and Peridot, I hate how the show says them.)
Feel like the human/gem balance of relevance would have been fixed if they'd let Greg or someone else be more involved with the Crystal Gems. Maybe have Connie come on a little earlier or have townies that come into conflict with the gems who aren't a complete joke like Ronaldo. Shows like Gravity Falls and even Danny Phantom and Fairly Oddparents had a pretty good mix of human/supernatural conflict.
Maybe don't have every human character besides Greg, Connie, or god forbid Lars have abosutely no consequence to the plot.

Anyway something nice about SU and a lot of shows around this time, like Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, Regular Show, they were great vibe shows. They had fun casts of characters and visually pleasant and relatable settings. Showrunners would include their hobbies and interests which is why we got so much retro 80s content from Regular show or references to the Gameboy Advance in SU.
Episodes where you got to hang out with the characters were a treat, which is why so many people hate the town episodes of Steven Universe, NONE of the townies are fun to hang out with, there's too many of them to begin with and none of them are fleshed out enough to care about.
I want to hang out with the gems and watch them get up to science fiction shenanigans. My favorite episodes of Steven Universe were the barn episodes and the shorty squad because we got to spend time with the gems in ordinary situations, but there was still character development happening and the plot was advancing slightly. That's the good stuff. That's binge worthy television.
To go along with that Steven Universe also has a pretty good escalation with its villains, we go from Lapis who isn't really a villain, Peridot who hints towards something bigger on the horizon, Jasper who hands the Crystal Gems their first defeat, to eventually the actual diamonds.

Like a lot of things from last decade it had loads of potential but was fumbled in one way or another and became a mixed bag. I don't think it's really worth a lot of the hate it got, especially from E;R or Lily Orchard, but it is a time capsule to that exciting time in animation and fandom, and I think that alone has merit.
 
If the final battle was brought to Earth somehow, and the Beach City residents actually came together and did SOMETHING, even if it was ultimately small, that'd matter so much.
I've said it before but I'll say it again:

In my headcanon the crystal gems were not rebels - the colony was simply abandoned as an unproductive failure (it only makes the weird corrupted gems) and they were left there as punishment / failed to get out in time.

This would set up a great loyalty conflict with Steven's lesbian parents wanting to rejoin and liberalize the gem empire yet also keep earth protected and independent. All the effort and episodes spent building up relationships with Beach City would make them effective emissaries and in that way, all those filler episodes would add up to something meaningful to the plot, because they'd be constantly checking with the residents to see if the compromises being made are workable, and it's only the trust built up that is allowing for the possibility of peace.
 
I also, personally, just don't like Lapis very much. She's so morose and antisocial, and I get she's gone through a lot but every fucking gem has gone through a lot.
I always found her morose "woe is me" vibe pretty fucking annoying when it became more and more clear she didn't actually have it the worst.
 
She drew fujoshi porn of Ed Edd n Eddy.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't care about her fujo fanart. She was a cartoon fangirl drawing shipping art that didn't even go full nudity, who cares. It's not like she drew them as toddlers getting raped or some other horrible shit.
 
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