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I mean, I'm pretty sure he got the same VA that does the announcer in Job Job and it looks like the rapping robots. It feels entirely like he had a bunch of ideas for Jackbox games and instead tried to throw them into a cartoon.
 
the pilot is out, I already posted in the pan thread
it's not bad but man pan is not a great voice actor. doesn't help that he voices 3 characters and they all sound the same
Man he was working on this one for a long time.

Here's my thoughts, Pan isn't a good voice actor and should not have voiced Loki, who seems like he is supposed to be a little more charismatic than he is in the pilot. I don't know who should be voicing this character but the proximity of Loki next to Emily and Stephanie, two joke characters also voiced by Pan is incredibly distracting.

The premise is very accessible and if it was more popular I could see people making their own "IRLS" on tumblr and twitter.
Like shit people basically already do this on sites like Art Fight, fan content would write itself.

The animation is pretty good, it has some draw backs of course. You can see Pan's background as a youtuber sort of shine through, as when characters talk they just stand in place with their mouth cycling up and down. The fight scenes are very energetic and good and the way drawing techniques are incorporated into them is clever. The rotoscoping on the rival characters IRL is kind of clunky, it seems like Pan had a model do it for him but realized it wasn't synced well enough to the animation and so he lowered the frame rate on it.

The biggest letdown with this pilot is that my favorite character from the webcomic, Wavebird, didn't appear.
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For shame Pan. Maybe he just couldn't find a voice that fit her.

I think the real value of this webcomic, and this pilot in general, is that it taps into the modern design landscape of the last decade. How artists become influencers, how everyone is trying to break into the industry somehow, and the sort of uncertainty that comes with being an artist primarily on the internet.
It probably won't be picked up by anyone, but hey wouldn't it be cool if Glitch picked it up and suddenly they had to deal with Pan's weird ass. At last he would have unfettered access to goth girls.
 
Linking to a BlueSky account isn't credible enough tbh. The timing lines up with the announcement he got fired, but Cipes claims he was fired on or after Valentine's Day. Was he making anti-vax posts before February?
Greg has always been a hippy-dippy anti-vaxxer, even before COVID associated it with the right. He just never really yelled about it like he began doing after his Parkinson's diagnosis.
From what another staff member said, his Parkinson's started making it difficult for him to perform Beast Boy's role, and they decided to replace him while letting Greg stay on as another character who wasn't so hyper, but he declined.
 
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As someone who's been lurking this thread for quite a while now, I feel like it should just be renamed the Western Animation Grieving Thread, because good god you guys are negative. I would've expected this to be a place where users could share animated movies and TV shows they like (both old and new) while laughing at the stupid ones (again, both old and new), but instead it's 99% doomposting about how western animation is dead and it's never going to get any better, with the occasional weeb gloating about how anime is way better.

I'm going to name names, because Commander X has been the worst about these things, with his past two posts in this thread being a prime example. He also has a Twitter account called Spumdonor and a YouTube channel called Cartoon Aesthetics where he does the exact same thing. Just constant sperging out over how "western animation is irreversibly fucked", "Disney is evil and John Kricfalusi is God", "anime is the way of the future", and so on and so forth. Maybe instead of wallowing in your own misery about western animation being the worst it's ever been and having no future, you can actually try to seek out good modern animation and expand your horizons beyond just wacky John Kricfalusi-esque comedies, pre-1970s theatrical shorts, and anime.

I've actually thought about creating a new "bitching about wokeshit"-free thread for discussion about western animation, but I have a feeling it would either die really quickly or derail into bitching about wokeshit anyway, defeating the entire purpose of having a separate thread. I guess I'll just have to settle for drowning out the negativity with some posts of my own.
 
Anyone remember that 2D-animated Christian movie called Light of the World that was posted about earlier in this thread?

Well, it finally came out over the weekend, and I went to see it. Even as someone who doesn't consider himself majorly religious, I had a really good time. The film very much feels like someone that woul'’ve been made during the Disney Renaissance, which isn't surprising since it was a major passion project done by animators who worked at Disney during that timeframe. Speaking of which, it's not some cutesy Disneyified version of the story of Jesus. While it does have plenty of comedic moments, it doesn't shy away from the dramatic parts of the story at all. If you plan on taking kids to see it, keep in mind it does get pretty dark towards the end.

Honestly, the fact that a movie like this can get a wide theatrical release makes me hopeful we'll get more animation that actually tries to promote good values in children as opposed to brainwashing them with political propaganda.

If anyone has five minutes to spare, I highly recommend checking out this behind-the-scenes video that was posted on the official Light of the World YouTube channel. It really gives you insight into how passionate the makers of the film were.
 
"Disney is evil and John Kricfalusi is God"
We hate John Kricfalusi here too. He's a fucking pedophile.
If anyone has five minutes to spare, I highly recommend checking out this behind-the-scenes video that was posted on the official Light of the World YouTube channel. It really gives you insight into how passionate the makers of the film were.
This actually unironically looks like it could be good, and I like the resemblance to classic Eisner-era Disney.
 
Anyone remember that 2D-animated Christian movie called Light of the World that was posted about earlier in this thread?

Well, it finally came out over the weekend, and I went to see it. Even as someone who doesn't consider himself majorly religious, I had a really good time. The film very much feels like someone that woul'’ve been made during the Disney Renaissance, which isn't surprising since it was a major passion project done by animators who worked at Disney during that timeframe. Speaking of which, it's not some cutesy Disneyified version of the story of Jesus. While it does have plenty of comedic moments, it doesn't shy away from the dramatic parts of the story at all. If you plan on taking kids to see it, keep in mind it does get pretty dark towards the end.

Honestly, the fact that a movie like this can get a wide theatrical release makes me hopeful we'll get more animation that actually tries to promote good values in children as opposed to brainwashing them with political propaganda.

If anyone has five minutes to spare, I highly recommend checking out this behind-the-scenes video that was posted on the official Light of the World YouTube channel. It really gives you insight into how passionate the makers of the film were.
This and the King of Kings is some of the BEST Jesus movies for kids--King of Kings' near end was like Passion of the Christ for kids--no blood but the actions were obvious. Little Scream family members love these two movies. And I'm just happy that there's some hopeful messaging coming back to theaters. Fuck nihilism.
 
This and the King of Kings is some of the BEST Jesus movies for kids--King of Kings' near end was like Passion of the Christ for kids--no blood but the actions were obvious. Little Scream family members love these two movies. And I'm just happy that there's some hopeful messaging coming back to theaters. Fuck nihilism.
There's something beautiful about the great 2D animation coming out being related to Jesus. Christians 1, Everyone else 0.
 
Anyone remember that 2D-animated Christian movie called Light of the World that was posted about earlier in this thread?
Next week after I get paid, I plan on seeing it. Happy to hear production was up to snuff, I was hoping it to be the case.

This and the King of Kings is some of the BEST Jesus movies for kids
Whoa, really? That Korean-animated movie was actually decent?
 
Next week after I get paid, I plan on seeing it. Happy to hear production was up to snuff, I was hoping it to be the case.


Whoa, really? That Korean-animated movie was actually decent?
I mean, it's not Prince of Egypt level, but it was cute and the littles really liked it. I am biased though as I'm of the faith--but the CG beats out some of the shows these days (especially Earthspark if you're a TF fan)--it definitely dose show that it was a more humble project with most of the money going to getting notable voice actors, but I don't know...something about it tugged at my heart, as stupid as that sounds. So my opinion may not be as reliable as others, but I can't lie about how feel good it was.
If this was sarcasm on your end, I apologize if I didn't pick up on it. The autism is strong with me

Speaking of animated Bible stories, anybody remember Nest Entertainment's Bible cartoons? Or The Beginner's Bible series? I still have some of the VHS tapes and my chewed up book that has been on my shelf ever since I was a kid.
 
This and the King of Kings is some of the BEST Jesus movies for kids--King of Kings' near end was like Passion of the Christ for kids--no blood but the actions were obvious. Little Scream family members love these two movies. And I'm just happy that there's some hopeful messaging coming back to theaters. Fuck nihilism.
Not animation, but The Ten Commandments with Heston was also top notch.
Who doesn't?
I miss pre-9/11. I feel sad for kids raised never knowing what it was like beforehand. It set off a downward spiral we're yet to see the bottom of. Society is increasingly paranoid, dumb and fragmented.
 
Speaking of animated Bible stories, anybody remember Nest Entertainment's Bible cartoons?
We have the majority of the Animated Bible series, plus Book of Mormon and Animated Heroes Classics from the same studio. They're fun bite-sized cartoons to put on for a half-hour or so, and even to show in Sunday school if you're particularly lazy about the lesson that week. Literally Ivan Crossland's Jesus is my go-to voice for him every time I read the scriptures lol.

Speaking of Richard Rich, I learned not too long ago that he's not actually an animator, he was mainly a director, producer, and writer. And apparently he's just quietly retired and kinda-sorta lives off the grid now who does occasional piano lessons according to someone I found on YouTube who knows him from their family ward. It was Steven Gordon who's the main character designer for the studio, the man worked with Ralph Bakshi before going to Disney and then leaving with Rich for his studio, and he was then hired on as character designer for X-Men Evolution. Absolute legend no one talks about.

EDIT: HOLY FUCK, did they get the Robert Axelrod as Bartholomew? Bruuuuuuh.
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